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[Get Real!]

The drive for Internet freedom

Any effort by someone (not just me) to produce a “people’s browser”; that is one that aims to shield the public from corporate/government greed and control, is a positive development in my opinion, that should be supported by the public.

Supporting a project like this doesn’t necessarily mean that you abandon your usual browser and jump straight onto this because as we all know (1) old habits die hard and (2) there’s always the possibility that it may not suit your taste and/or expectations… all of which are perfectly understandable.

What you can do though if you want, is to have it on the side and take it from a spin from time to time and offer any constructive feedback that you can in an effort to improve it.

What we are supporting or should be supporting, is the drive and effort (the thrust) to build the software that liberates society from the evil clutches of corporate America; and to a recent extension their government, or other governments which are hell-bent on violating our privacy to control everything.

Of course, if we were to conduct some tests and discover something negative about a browser that claims to be a part of this push for freedom yet fails, then by all means we should expose it in public for we wouldn’t want a phony agent to be in our midst.

But, to just downright criticize such an effort with no evidence whatsoever is in my opinion a tragic mistake that only further empowers those that are gradually enslaving society with their monopoly.

I would now like to turn your attention to a positive and constructive discussion by a group of mature adults who have similar concerns to mine, and how they handle their experience of the Classic Browser.

Now you can compare these people’s mature discussion with that of Paphitis and/or Sotos’ incessant unfounded accusations and mostly childish ramblings...

https://www.portablefreeware.com/forums ... hp?p=90347

[Paphitis]

Oh yeh, here comes Get Real to shield the public from subscribing to YouTube.

Hip hip!

Hooray

Hip hip!

Hooray

Hip hip!

Hooray!



Meanwhile, at Google headquarters!

An intern reads Cyprus Forum and say's

What the fuck is the Classic Browser?

[Paphitis]

Oh and some of the replies are hilarous!

I looked over their webpage and I enjoy that they're trying to do something bold and different, but there are a lot of privacy-centric browsers. Another closed-source (according to Softpedia and Majorgeeks) Chrome-based browser just doesn't seem like it's going to last.

As far as the program's status as cache-free, there are certainly places where caching data can harm your privacy. However, I don't think it's the relic that the devs seem to think it is. Shaving a few seconds of the download of a website because you already have the images or javascript is still a big deal.

And this one takes the cake:

I'm not a browser developer but I'm pretty sure that's not true for all ad blockers. The author goes on to suggest that the HOSTS file is the best way to handle that, but I use a VPN that circumnavigates the HOSTS file.

Anyway, as the program modifies the HOSTS file, it may require admin to function normally and may not be portable. That might require some testing.

Get Real exposed again with his unsubstantiated blanket statements.

And this, proving how correct I was all along:

Yeah, I think that's only true for Adblock Plus. uBlock Origin on the other hand blocks so many things that occasionally it can be even unnecessary imo.

[Get Real!]

This link is just to demonstrate what a civilized discussion looks like.

Not everything these people are saying is technically correct (some are assumptions or incorrect), so there’s no need to start quoting them here.

[Paphitis]

This link is just to demonstrate what a civilized discussion looks like.

Not everything these people are saying is technically correct (some are assumptions or incorrect), so there’s no need to start quoting them here.

Between 2 people!

True, they are civilized because they are Americans! They have some manners.

Cypriots don't have manners Get Real!

It proves another one of my points. Better quit now mate before it gets worse!

What they said about uBlock is correct. It's advance medium setting blocks everything, to the point many websites don't load properly. It is overkill, The best setting is easy mode and that still blocks all of the Google adds and Addware and analytics.

They are open source and do not have any sweet heart deals with anyone. They are quite clear about that.

They are also saying there are many privacy centric browsers out there like Tor, Epic, Brave and Mozilla for starters.

[Get Real!]

Nobody knows where they come from, nobody is privy to that, and we don’t care either!

Once again you expose your stupidity Paphitis.

Always irrelevant, always derailing, always immature… like a turd in a toilet bowl that refuses to be flushed!

You are the typical Australian outback dunny!

[Paphitis]

Nobody knows where they come from, nobody is privy to that, and we don’t care either!

Once again you expose your stupidity Paphitis.

Always irrelevant, always derailing, always immature… like a turd in a toilet bowl that refuses to be flushed!

You are the typical Australian outback dunny!

Except they plainly tell you where they are from in their signatures.

One is from Texas USA!

Go USA!

I admit us Aussies can be crude.

[Get Real!]

Look, I don’t give a shit where they come from, and I don’t give a shit about the specific opinions on technical matters they express because they’re not necessarily correct.

What I appreciate is the constructive way with which they exchange opinions etc, and how they see and hope for the push for a “people’s browser”.

That is what's relevant to this thread and not their country of origin or ad-blocking preferences!

[Paphitis]

Look, I don’t give a shit where they come from, and I don’t give a shit about the specific opinions on technical matters they express because they’re not necessarily correct.

What I appreciate is the constructive way with which they exchange opinions etc, and how they see the push for a “people’s browser”.

That is what's relevant to this thread and not their country of origin or ad-blocking preferences!

Constructive and you should never be used in the same sentence!

I tried to tell you that blocking YouTube servers or google servers is NOT how to achieve internet freedom.

And what does internet freedom mean anyway? it's a pipe dream because all that is is another mode for global communications. People can use the internet for all sorts of illegal purposes and the authorities have a right to try and detect these activities to protect the public from things like terrorism, narcotics, and child pornography among many other things.

So stop behaving like a spoilt brat.

Google has done so many things for the internet and we should at least be grateful.

Your browser is hardly a push for a people's browser. What is a push for a people's browser is something that is open source and adaptable - like Mozilla Firefox. That is a people's browser that an be configured by the end user to be as private as they like with just a few clicks of the mouse inside it's OPTIONS menu and with the addition of 1 and maybe 2 add ons. In fact, only 1 add on is required. Oh and you can stop advertising through the HOSTS file as well so don't even need to have an add on.

[Get Real!]

I tried to tell you that blocking YouTube servers or google servers is NOT how to achieve internet freedom.

And what does internet freedom mean anyway? it's a pipe dream because all that is is another mode for global communications. People can use the internet for all sorts of illegal purposes and the authorities have a right to try and detect these activities to protect the public from things like terrorism, narcotics, and child pornography among many other things.

So stop behaving like a spoilt brat.

Google has done so many things for the internet and we should at least be grateful.

Your browser is hardly a push for a people's browser. What is a push for a people's browser is something that is open source and adaptable - like Mozilla Firefox. That is a people's browser that an be configured by the end user to be as private as they like with just a few clicks of the mouse inside it's OPTIONS menu and with the addition of 1 and maybe 2 add ons. In fact, only 1 add on is required. Oh and you can stop advertising through the HOSTS file as well so don't even need to have an add on.

With the exception of your last sentence, you are mostly talking nonsense.

The masses don’t know how to make a browser “private & secure” and neither do you. You haven't even begun to scratch the surface.

The privacy & security of a browser is a multi-faceted complex array of many factors that users cannot possibly be aware of. You just assume you know, but such knowledge is only attained by developers who know all the tricks of the trade.

All you can do is place your faith on the promises of 3rd party ad-ons but that’s just not good enough and defeats the very purpose of privacy & security because such a browser can NEVER be 3rd party configurable, it's an oxymoron!