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Re: niyazi kizilyurek

Postby Sotos » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:08 am

I've seen several articles and interviews given by him. He represents the typical TC views, which unfortunately AKEL accepts.

For the TCs any kind of unity is seen as a compromise. If they could have legalized their pseudo state, then be accepted in the EU, and also have share in the gas finds in the south, they would have done it. This would be the ideal solution for them. The ONLY reason they are negotiating is that they failed to have their pseudo state recognized, and they know that even in the unlikely scenario that "trnc" is recognized this would mean that they would lose their EU IDs and they will have no chance of joining.

So the TCs reluctantly accept a skin deep unity, while they want absolutely everything under this thin skin to be divided in two. In this way they achieve partition making the north officially theirs with our signature, while they also get to be in the EU and as a bonus have a share in the gas finds in the south!

So almost all TCs who say that they want a "united Cyprus" are lying. What they really want is "as little unity as possible". We are the ones who want unity: No geographic division of Cyprus in "Greek Cyprus" and "Turkish Cyprus", no division of the Cypriot people based on their ethnicity or religion, one united country and one united people. If the TCs wanted anything like that we would have a solution yesterday. Unfortunately what they want is a disguised partition.

The difference between the two main camps of TCs is that one camp values EU citizenship much greater than the other camp. The Dektash camp values EU less and they believe that a 2 state solution could be possible, while the Akitzi camp values EU more and believes that 2 state solution is impossible. If the option of 2 state solution + EU was possible, then both camps would LOVE it.

There is only a tiny minority of TCs that want a true unity, like Kikapu in our forum, and those TCs are attacked from the partitionist TCs like Lordo, Kizilyurek, Akitzi, Dektash Junior etc.
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Re: niyazi kizilyurek

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:22 am

kurupetos wrote:His views are the same as every other AKEL traitor.

Wake up fools... it's about time you stop voting for AKEL.


EXACTLY!

They are traitors!
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Re: niyazi kizilyurek

Postby Lordo » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:50 pm

Sotos wrote:I've seen several articles and interviews given by him. He represents the typical TC views, which unfortunately AKEL accepts.

For the TCs any kind of unity is seen as a compromise. If they could have legalized their pseudo state, then be accepted in the EU, and also have share in the gas finds in the south, they would have done it. This would be the ideal solution for them. The ONLY reason they are negotiating is that they failed to have their pseudo state recognized, and they know that even in the unlikely scenario that "trnc" is recognized this would mean that they would lose their EU IDs and they will have no chance of joining.

So the TCs reluctantly accept a skin deep unity, while they want absolutely everything under this thin skin to be divided in two. In this way they achieve partition making the north officially theirs with our signature, while they also get to be in the EU and as a bonus have a share in the gas finds in the south!

So almost all TCs who say that they want a "united Cyprus" are lying. What they really want is "as little unity as possible". We are the ones who want unity: No geographic division of Cyprus in "Greek Cyprus" and "Turkish Cyprus", no division of the Cypriot people based on their ethnicity or religion, one united country and one united people. If the TCs wanted anything like that we would have a solution yesterday. Unfortunately what they want is a disguised partition.

The difference between the two main camps of TCs is that one camp values EU citizenship much greater than the other camp. The Dektash camp values EU less and they believe that a 2 state solution could be possible, while the Akitzi camp values EU more and believes that 2 state solution is impossible. If the option of 2 state solution + EU was possible, then both camps would LOVE it.

There is only a tiny minority of TCs that want a true unity, like Kikapu in our forum, and those TCs are attacked from the partitionist TCs like Lordo, Kizilyurek, Akitzi, Dektash Junior etc.

sotos you really are one dense son of a gun.
if akinci is a partitionist like dengtash why does anastasiades ask for tighter federation?
why is anastasiades asking for looser federation?
between anastasiades and akinci who is more of a partitionist akinci or anastasiades?
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Re: niyazi kizilyurek

Postby Sotos » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:05 pm

Anastasiades and GCs in general are the ones who want a TRUE unification. No division of any kind in either territory or the citizens. What nearly all TCs want, including Akinci, is partition.

Anastasiades proposals are merely an effort to get something functional. E.g. giving more autonomy to the TCs at state level, and in return he is asking for less division at the central government level.

The GCs want a unitary state, no division at all, the TCs want partition. The Federation is supposedly the compromise between the two. However only the GCs have been making compromises all these years, so the result is partition in everything but the name.

Yes, Anastasiades, his party and AKEL are also at fault for being so compromising. But there is a difference between wanting partition, which is what the Turks want, and compromising to a form of partition which is what DISY and AKEL are doing. But your community is so greedy that they want even more partition, which is why you couldn't agree with Yes Man Anastasiades, or with AKEL man Christofias.
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Re: niyazi kizilyurek

Postby kurupetos » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:37 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Lordo wrote:here is a man who attracts a lot of hatred from one sector of the tc community mainly the fascist element standing for eu parliament under the banner of akel.
how many votes do you suppose will he get?
if the tcs cross the line and vote for him he is certain to get elected but the question is will they?
how many gcs will vote for him?
he makes it quite clear, he stands for everybody in cyprus.
enjoy



A true Cypriot, great person, top brains, highly educated.
Fulfills all the criteria to represent us in Europe.
Good luck. I hope the TCs will come and vote for him.
I think many GC members of Akel will vote for him too.

And you're a true traitor. GFY. :wink:
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Re: niyazi kizilyurek

Postby Lordo » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:47 pm

this one is for our resident fascists ignorant or otherwise

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Re: niyazi kizilyurek

Postby Lordo » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:52 pm

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Re: niyazi kizilyurek

Postby Sotos » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:18 pm

You know what the Nazi Fascists did Lordo? They invaded and occupied another country with the excuse of supposedly doing so to protect their minority.

You are the fascists. We are the people fighting against expansionist fascists and we are trying to defend our land and maintain democracy.
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Re: niyazi kizilyurek

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:10 pm

I am not sure when exactly we the Gcs started wanting a united Cyprus.
Before 1974 or after?? What I am sure though is that the chunk of Sot'o's ilk
always wanted a Cyprus without Turks.
The coup against Makarios was simply because he chose the method of eradicating them slowly
whereas the Junta and Eoka B wanted it faster.

We are lucky to have been in Europe, and discovered hydrocarbons, and still have international recognition,
to have something to offer in exchange of a United Cyprus_with_Turks.

The TCs got their own lesson too realizing that collaborating with Turkey from the 50s onward, has a very bitter taste.
Just like our Soto's ilk they too have their own chunk that doesn't want to have anything to do with Greeks.

These are the elements that might possibly one day lead us to re-unification. Niazi is one of those people who
have enough brains left to know what is good for all Cypriots. There are people from all sides of the GC political spectrum
that respect him, in fact I remember he and Kate Klerides were once very close friends.
If he was the kind Soto's tries to portray not even one GC would even say kalimera to him, let aside have him joining a political party as a candidate for Euroelections
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Re: niyazi kizilyurek

Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:21 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:I am not sure when exactly we the Gcs started wanting a united Cyprus.
Before 1974 or after?? What I am sure though is that the chunk of Sot'o's ilk
always wanted a Cyprus without Turks.
The coup against Makarios was simply because he chose the method of eradicating them slowly
whereas the Junta and Eoka B wanted it faster.

We are lucky to have been in Europe, and discovered hydrocarbons, and still have international recognition,
to have something to offer in exchange of a United Cyprus_with_Turks.

The TCs got their own lesson too realizing that collaborating with Turkey from the 50s onward, has a very bitter taste.
Just like our Soto's ilk they too have their own chunk that doesn't want to have anything to do with Greeks.

These are the elements that might possibly one day lead us to re-unification. Niazi is one of those people who
have enough brains left to know what is good for all Cypriots. There are people from all sides of the GC political spectrum
that respect him, in fact I remember he and Kate Klerides were once very close friends.
If he was the kind Soto's tries to portray not even one GC would even say kalimera to him, let aside have him joining a political party as a candidate for Euroelections


An excellent post Pyrpolizer. Bags and bags of respect to you and all those that think like you. Sotos, relax man. We are Cypriots like you. Our love and passion for the island is no less than yours. A time will come when we'll have to get used to living side by side in peace and harmony and surely that's not such a bad thing is it?
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