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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Kikapu » Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:03 pm

Londonrake wrote:
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Boeing, once again trying to use one airframe “to fit one size all” and not doing a very good job at it.

During the pandemic, flights in the US had a “middle seat empty” policy. Perhaps it is time for them with the B-737 Max planes to have a “window seat empty” policy. :wink:

Why is Boeing determined to kill more unsuspecting passengers lately? :shock:

Time for Boeing to stop using Duct Tape in trying to fix major problems with the B-737 Max!

Didn’t the FAA said after the two B-737 Max crashes that they will do their own inspections then on of the manufacturing Boeing planes and not only rely on Boeing’s say so that their planes are safe? :roll:

America. Profits before safety! :oops:
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Lordo » Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:44 pm

Indeed, I would go further and say profits with no safety.

it is time to put this corporation out of it's misery.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Mon Jan 08, 2024 7:17 pm

Lordo wrote:Indeed, I would go further and say profits with no safety.

it is time to put this corporation out of it's misery.


Why do you post crap like that? :roll:

Whilst this thread has been mostly about problems encountered with the 737 Max (like all though it's wandered quite a bit) your knowledge of Boeing as a company and interest in it will actually be little to zero.

Suffice to say, it's the World's biggest aerospace company with over 10,000 commercial aircraft flying (about half the world fleet) for 150 countries. Overall it has an excellent safety record. Better than the global average. Moreover, it employs 140,000 people in 65 countries.

I'd post a link or two but as you demonstrate on a regular basis you don't even bother to read your own stuff a lot of the time, let alone others efforts.

When it comes to something worthy of being put out of it's misery you are surely a prime candidate? You come across as someone in a perpetual state of morose negativity regarding just about every subject you post on.

If you haven't bothered to actually look into something before you post contemptous comments - in laughable attempts to make yourself look knowlegeable - you might occasionally want to consider taking the STFU option. That'll be the day! :lol:


There's one good thing about being ignored, the other member's committed to just having to suck it up. As GR learned...................................... twice! :D
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:49 pm

As the great Joe Louis once said..................................... "You can run, but you can't hide!" :wink: :D
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:26 am

Sometimes you read something and you think, no no it can't be, i must seeing things.

Bolts in need of "additional tightening" have been found during inspections of Boeing 737 Max 9s, United Airlines has said.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67919436

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Tue Jan 09, 2024 4:59 am

Lordo wrote:Sometimes you read something and you think, no no it can't be, i must seeing things.


No! It happens all the time with the stuff you post. :wink:
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:45 pm

The incident presents a "big problem" for Boeing, the BBC explained. This make of plane was originally intended to be "the latest generation of Boeing's 737 workhorse", but it has a "badly tarnished" safety record following two "near identical" incidents in 2018 and 2019. The "catastrophic" crashes, off the coast of Indonesia and near the Ethiopian capital of Addis Ababa, claimed the lives of 346 people. Both were caused by "flawed flight control software", the broadcaster added, and the incidents resulted in the global 737 Max fleet being grounded for 18 months.[list=][/list]


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/boeing-facing-more-questions-after-mid-air-panel-blowout/ar-AA1mE5DS?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=538d48487fef401f89a20b74738890cc&ei=21

I don't remember this being the cause of the crashes in 2018 and 2019. If it was, why was there nothing put in place to stop it ever happening again.

Have they considered using a locking nut? But I guess their problem is not really loose nuts, it is loose screws in their brain.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Jan 09, 2024 4:02 pm

Lordo wrote:
The incident presents a "big problem" for Boeing, the BBC explained. This make of plane was originally intended to be "the latest generation of Boeing's 737 workhorse", but it has a "badly tarnished" safety record following two "near identical" incidents in 2018 and 2019. The "catastrophic" crashes, off the coast of Indonesia and near the Ethiopian capital of Addis Ababa, claimed the lives of 346 people. Both were caused by "flawed flight control software", the broadcaster added, and the incidents resulted in the global 737 Max fleet being grounded for 18 months.[list=][/list]


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/boeing-facing-more-questions-after-mid-air-panel-blowout/ar-AA1mE5DS?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=538d48487fef401f89a20b74738890cc&ei=21

I don't remember this being the cause of the crashes in 2018 and 2019. If it was, why was there nothing put in place to stop it ever happening again.

Have they considered using a locking nut? But I guess their problem is not really loose nuts, it is loose screws in their brain.


If this had been a problem with a model of the Air Bus the FAA would have had them all grounded. Because it is so obvious with all the MSM cover, this cannot be brushed away or blamed on the quality of 'foreign' pilots Boeing are in a tight corner and will look for excuses. I can only agree with you that 'money' is the deciding factor when it comes to safety in these big corporations ........ and not just with Boeing.

Not that long ago several 737's crashed for no apparent reason. On the approach and decent they suddenly violently rotated to one side and just ploughed into the ground. It was pure luck that it eventually happened with an ex-USAF pilot in command who used the engines to correct the roll. The investigation showed that that when the warm hydraulic fluid that controlled the rudder suddenly hit the ice cold piston it just slammed it full over. It also involved contaminants in the fluid itself.

Again it was a design error but they never withdrew the model from service and would have lost more aircraft had it not been for this single incident where the pilot had the experience to correct the result of the error.

I seem to remember the two earlier crashes were due to some autopilot software glitch?

As you say ...... if there re a few loose nuts that they have found ..... how many have have they not found? :roll:
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 09, 2024 4:50 pm

Not only must they find every single loose nut but also identify whether they were loose all along or have they worked themselves loose over usage.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Kikapu » Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:35 pm

Lordo wrote:Not only must they find every single loose nut but also identify whether they were loose all along or have they worked themselves loose over usage.


As I understand it, the Alaskan Airlines B-737 Max was only delivered in October 2023 for the nuts to be loosened. :shock:

The engines hasn’t been “broken-in” yet! :wink:
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