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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:13 pm

Maximus wrote:
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Maximus wrote:It’s these costs that might be passed on to the uk buyer by the uk government of imported goods from the eu.



The UK government could impose tariffs on EU goods if the EU chooses to impose tariffs on UK goods... See how it works...?

Who do you think has most to lose in this scenario...?


The uk....

As I have said the eu market place is bigger and more lucrative to Britain. The European consumer will have 27 other member states that they could acquire products and services from, tariffs free. This is what Britain will be competing against. And what does the uk produce that is better or cheaper than other member states?

Furthermore, the pound has lost value compared to the euro. Which means it will be cheaper for eu buyers to import from Britain and Now, more expensive for British buyers to import from the eu... that does not necessarily mean an increase in demand from eu buyers....just, they are better off.



Well, I think German exporters have more to lose...

... but we'll have to agree to differ on this. Time will tell what the eventual outcome of the Brexit vote will be. :wink:

Fascinating time to have an interest in politics whatever happens....
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby Sotos » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:47 pm

Both sides will lose financially, but the UK, being the smallest side, will lose more.

Personally I am worried that the there will be a second referendum and people will then vote "remain". The EU has no interest in negotiating better terms for the UK, and the UK seems to be unwilling to leave without a deal.
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby Lordo » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:28 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Maximus wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Maximus wrote:It’s these costs that might be passed on to the uk buyer by the uk government of imported goods from the eu.



The UK government could impose tariffs on EU goods if the EU chooses to impose tariffs on UK goods... See how it works...?

Who do you think has most to lose in this scenario...?


The uk....

As I have said the eu market place is bigger and more lucrative to Britain. The European consumer will have 27 other member states that they could acquire products and services from, tariffs free. This is what Britain will be competing against. And what does the uk produce that is better or cheaper than other member states?

Furthermore, the pound has lost value compared to the euro. Which means it will be cheaper for eu buyers to import from Britain and Now, more expensive for British buyers to import from the eu... that does not necessarily mean an increase in demand from eu buyers....just, they are better off.



Well, I think German exporters have more to lose...

... but we'll have to agree to differ on this. Time will tell what the eventual outcome of the Brexit vote will be. :wink:

Fascinating time to have an interest in politics whatever happens....

europeans wil have to find new customers 16% of their gdp and the uk 56% of gdp. i do not envy your logic. i do feel sorry for the uk exporters to the eu, they will be hung out to dry.

even today boris is talking about making a free trade deal with the germans. considering we are leaving because we are not able to make deals when in the eu, how will the germans be able to do this against the eu. whats worse boris thinks he will leave without a deal and negotiate in the implementation period. what implemementation period? i mean you really have to be pretty dense not see through this asshole's arguments. with no deal he will be able to agree a tax-free trade deal with the eu and withold the 39billion. you could not make it up.
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby Maximus » Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:46 am

Yep, lordonidis has made a sane comment here.

More than half of Britain’s customers are in the eu.

Less than a fifth of the eu’s customers are in Britain.

It’s clear what side Britains bread is buttered and where the spot of jam is in the European croissant.

The uk has more at risk leaving the eu...
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:17 am

Maximus wrote:I doubt that paphitis.

You have basically painted a picture that Britain will get all the financial benefits that she has within the eu, without any of the associated costs and without any of the legal or political aspects of it.

That is a similar ideologue that the brexiteers were promoting before the referendum. Most of it was false.

3 years later, there is no deal accepted by the two main political parties in the uk. No deal brexit is even being considered as an option because the other deal is not to many people’s liking. :roll:

If it was as simple, as easy, as profitable as you are trying to make it out to be it is a wonder that the eu even exists. Every member state might as well leave and set up free trade agreements with every other member state.


Yes it will get all the financial benefits of Free Trade with the EU.

I think even non EU states like Australia have the same benefits which is why you are able to buy Australian Lamb in Cypriot supermarkets for less money Australians can buy it for. I kid you not!

The reason why the UK will reap all the trade benefits is because the EU is basically there to assist the capitalist market. it's all about the Corporates, the Banks, and big business and manufacturers. They want to trade with the UK and everyone else and they don't want barriers.

There are no restrictions on Australian Goods and Services into Europe that I am aware of.
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:21 am

Maximus wrote:if there is no free trade agreement for German luxury cars, people in the uk will, still buy them but they will get pissed off at their own government now that the costs have gone up.

What is their alternative? Buy a ford or pay up....

Very much like what trump is achieving with these trade wars. He tries to put the price up on one thing, they put the price up on something else. The costs will be passed on to the consumer, and that’s it.


Less people will buy these german cars and Ze Germans Vill not like zat! :lol:
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby miltiades » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:14 am

Does it not strike those who consider the prospects of the UK outside the EU as
..rosey that Sterling doesn't think so. !! Trading now at just a fraction over 1.11 to the Euro. Only a blithering idiot would consider Brexit as anything but a fucking disaster for the UK economy. A nation's currency IS the yardstick of measuring that nations economic health. Sterling has been declining since the referendum, yet the morons still think that our economy will flourish out of the EU.
The weird thing is that a large number of ex Pats, mostly in receipt of UK pensions do not seem to be bothered. Why? Well it's that mutating virus called Little Englandets mentality. These ....highly ....intelligent morons also support the Clown as our PM. For FS man, have they gone stark raving mad, a fucking bafoon as our PM. The mind boggles!!
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby Maximus » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:00 am

Western societies a doomed man,

We got too many.......highly.......”educated experts” running the show.
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby miltiades » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:09 am

Logic has nothing whatsoever to do with education or indeed intelligence. It's a bit like your " little friend" where size it's not related to education. I know well educated men whose logic is that of a pussy.!!!
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:18 am

Maximus wrote:Yep, lordonidis has made a sane comment here.

More than half of Britain’s customers are in the eu.

Less than a fifth of the eu’s customers are in Britain.

It’s clear what side Britains bread is buttered and where the spot of jam is in the European croissant.

The uk has more at risk leaving the eu...


Well, nothing new in those figures, Remainers have been knocking them out like tennis balls at Wimbledon for the past 3½ years…

But of course the EU’s exports are not evenly distributed across the 27, it is Germany, the manufacturing powerhouse of the EU that will feel the most pain (and shout loudest). Greek olive oil manufacturers, not so much…

And the UK’s exports to the EU are exaggerated by our exports to the RoW through the EU – sometimes known as The Rotterdam effect.

And lets not forget, the UK will be better off by the Thirteen Billion Pounds (and growing) each and every year it contributes to the EU budget. The EU meanwhile will either have to cut its cloth accordingly (unlikely) or ask countries like Cyprus for larger contributions.
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