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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby yialousa1971 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:21 pm

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miltiades wrote:Never mind that Plonker.How about the pound in your pocket !! The country is on the verge of a total break down and you are so so concerned about the EU and its democratic procedures.
If I were you I would change my pounds before 2030 when we ....come out of the EU :lol: :lol:

milti stop worrying boris will be forced to call an election in a matter of days. enough tory mps have said either they will resign from the party or join the liberals. there is no way he can get a bill to force no-deal brexit and he will not take it to october to force it by default. the game is up. and after the election cons will be down to about 150 mps. thats the end of that. liberals and labour as well as the snp will stop this stupidity. they may of course go ahead agree to a deal and put it for a confirmatory vote to choose between remain, deal or no deal. i don't even mind of people are allowed two votes each so brexiters are not disadvantaged. infact even rees smogg actually said this before the 2016 vote but soon forgot it after he won.



It shouldn't have to come to a GE but we Leavers have no issue with one if it is needed.

The numbers are after all in our favour. A GE will be run on the FPTP system and the FPTP numbers are not in favour of Remain.

Of course, a few Leavers may have died since then but the European Elections showed us the strength of feeling that Leave still has. Remember how The Brexit Party won...?


Wouldn’t it have been better to voted to leave the “Anglo Zionist Empire”. :mrgreen:
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:46 pm

Voting closed... :twisted:
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby Londonrake » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:49 pm

Jerry wrote:If she hasn't taken up her position in the next three years of course there should be a "peoples vote". Some of the voting MPs could have changed their minds or even pegged it. :lol:

At least the EU MPs who were democratically elected by us plebs had the opportunity to make the decision. Plebs have no say in the crowning of Kipper Johnson, he will be PM because the Tory elite want to save their party from extinction, they couldn't care less about the consequences for our economy

I wonder how Farage and his mob voted.


Von de Leyen will of course take up her position in November, allowing Junker to spend more time cultivating his wine cellar.

What "decision" did the EU Parliament make? The fact remains that she was a Macron/Merkel shoe-in and the only person on the ballot. That combination is what laughingly passes as "democracy" in the EU and shows the Parliament for the white elephant (pigs trough) that it is.

The UK doesn't of course have a Presidential system. You vote for a party and they elect (by whatever means) the leader. That's basically the way it's done, and always has been, by all of them. In fact, I'm sure you will have noticed, the LibDems voted in their first woman leader today. In that respect Johnson is no different to Cameron/May, Blair/Brown, Wilson/Callaghan. 7 Prime Ministers have come to power since WW2 without an election. So, Boris isn't unique there. I believe the only difference being this is the first time it has happened with a minority government.

When you say "the Tory elite want to save their party from extinction" I will suggest that they're going a strange way about it. We've been treated to the odd sight today of a serving minister, resigning in order to try to invoke a vote of confidence in Johnson - his own heir apparent party leader. That, before the man has even won the leadership contest. Amazing. Hammond - surely one of the "Tory elite" along with a motley bunch of similar have made it quite clear that they would abstain from a vote of confidence in their own party leader unless they get their way. So, I think you're wrong in that respect. It's popcorn munching stuff, watching so many apparently top people throwing themselves on their swords. Fascinating.

I have no faith at all in Boris Johnson being some sort of Brexit Messiah. I don't now trust any of them. In that respect I suspect you have nothing to fear.

When he doesn't deliver (meaningfully) you're right - the Tories will be toast at the next General Election.

I find myself hoping that Corbyn gets in by default - a distinct possibility in the above scenario. That would put the past three years of bitching about Brexit in perspective; hopefully followed by lots of "But, but, but! I didn't mean for this to happen!". Can't wait, to be honest. :D
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby Lordo » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:26 pm

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Jerry wrote:If she hasn't taken up her position in the next three years of course there should be a "peoples vote". Some of the voting MPs could have changed their minds or even pegged it. :lol:

At least the EU MPs who were democratically elected by us plebs had the opportunity to make the decision. Plebs have no say in the crowning of Kipper Johnson, he will be PM because the Tory elite want to save their party from extinction, they couldn't care less about the consequences for our economy

I wonder how Farage and his mob voted.


Von de Leyen will of course take up her position in November, allowing Junker to spend more time cultivating his wine cellar.

What "decision" did the EU Parliament make? The fact remains that she was a Macron/Merkel shoe-in and the only person on the ballot. That combination is what laughingly passes as "democracy" in the EU and shows the Parliament for the white elephant (pigs trough) that it is.

The UK doesn't of course have a Presidential system. You vote for a party and they elect (by whatever means) the leader. That's basically the way it's done, and always has been, by all of them. In fact, I'm sure you will have noticed, the LibDems voted in their first woman leader today. In that respect Johnson is no different to Cameron/May, Blair/Brown, Wilson/Callaghan. 7 Prime Ministers have come to power since WW2 without an election. So, Boris isn't unique there. I believe the only difference being this is the first time it has happened with a minority government.

When you say "the Tory elite want to save their party from extinction" I will suggest that they're going a strange way about it. We've been treated to the odd sight today of a serving minister, resigning in order to try to invoke a vote of confidence in Johnson - his own heir apparent party leader. That, before the man has even won the leadership contest. Amazing. Hammond - surely one of the "Tory elite" along with a motley bunch of similar have made it quite clear that they would abstain from a vote of confidence in their own party leader unless they get their way. So, I think you're wrong in that respect. It's popcorn munching stuff, watching so many apparently top people throwing themselves on their swords. Fascinating.

I have no faith at all in Boris Johnson being some sort of Brexit Messiah. I don't now trust any of them. In that respect I suspect you have nothing to fear.

When he doesn't deliver (meaningfully) you're right - the Tories will be toast at the next General Election.

I find myself hoping that Corbyn gets in by default - a distinct possibility in the above scenario. That would put the past three years of bitching about Brexit in perspective; hopefully followed by lots of "But, but, but! I didn't mean for this to happen!". Can't wait, to be honest. :D

cross your fingers and your toes, it is the best possible outcome.

i really don't understand why you brexiteers are all getting angry and calling not leaving undemocratic. in 2016 tory brexit and labour brexit were two different things so caliming that it was all the same brexit is the first bullshit.

secondly in 2017 we had a general election. all may said was brexit was brexit, no plan, no what kind of brexit, and of course lies continued. yes we will be able to have a free trade deal after removing freedom of movement. like hell. any way low and behold tories lost enough mps but no enough to lose the parliament.

all the time the whilst 17 million voted for two different brexits 16 million voted for the same remain. there is no two remains there is only one remain.

low and behold the tories get 13 million votes in the last election and try to brexit without so much as how do you do towards labour. lining up with dup. and of course the tory mps are not about to agree to a no deal brexit and commit electoral suicide. and of course also lose northenr ireland to roi

so now we have boris who believes so much in democracy that he is prepared to shut down the government to brexit. now thats very democratic. so much for taking control.

it really is not rocket science. lets be honest with the british public. explain to them what wto rules means. how much more they will have to pay for their imports and how much tax will be charged on their good in the eu and what it means to their buisness and give them a chance to vote for it and make it binding so if they vote to leave wallah. how hard canit be, this could have been done 3 years ago and we would have been out by now but i fear it will be a matter of days before boris government loses no confidence vote. with brexit party on their heel, the worst fears of cameron will finally come to fruition and the tories will be out of government for at least a decade.

its not that bad is it? i mean fancy corby and pm, bloody marvelous. what a result.
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:54 am

Lordo wrote:all the time the whilst 17 million voted for two different brexits 16 million voted for the same remain. there is no two remains there is only one remain.


Except that couldn't be further from the truth if it was on a different planet... :roll:

As has been pointed out repeatedly over the past three years (and several times on this thread alone), politicians from both sides of the argument made absolutely clear what a Leave vote would entail.

Here, I'll link the video for you once more in case you have a short memory.

On the other hand, many (most?) Remain voters voted for the status quo - in fact we were specifically told there would be no EU Army.

But in fact, three years on what do we see...? We see calls for an EU Army, a Federal Europe, even more cash sent to the EU and Von de Leyen and the others bounced into power in a backroom deal (and earning £300K per year in the process).

So no, you're completely wrong on both counts. :wink:
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby miltiades » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:50 am

I think we are in for some interesting ...circus acts. The Clown leading the Plonkets. What an absolute fucking joke. Are you LEs for real? Can you not see the damage that you are doing to the country ? Are you really so concerned about an EU army that you will commit your country to a lunatics asylum ?? I quess not? Plonkers you are and Plonkets you will always be. Rule Britania blah blah...

By the way? How is the Pound in your pocket ? Soon we shall have the sixpence back or even the florin, perhaps the Lbs How about feet and inches, maybe ounces too !! What a load of first class Plonkers!!
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby Kikapu » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:17 am

miltiades wrote:I think we are in for some interesting ...circus acts. The Clown leading the Plonkets. What an absolute fucking joke. Are you LEs for real? Can you not see the damage that you are doing to the country ? Are you really so concerned about an EU army that you will commit your country to a lunatics asylum ?? I quess not? Plonkers you are and Plonkets you will always be. Rule Britania blah blah...

By the way? How is the Pound in your pocket ? Soon we shall have the sixpence back or even the florin, perhaps the Lbs How about feet and inches, maybe ounces too !! What a load of first class Plonkers!!

I want the old £= 144 pence, £=20 shillings, a shilling=12 pence back.

Bring back the good old days to re-live my youth with the old currency! :lol:
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby Kikapu » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:20 am

Gallons back at the petrol stations! :D
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby miltiades » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:31 am

Kikapu wrote:
miltiades wrote:I think we are in for some interesting ...circus acts. The Clown leading the Plonkets. What an absolute fucking joke. Are you LEs for real? Can you not see the damage that you are doing to the country ? Are you really so concerned about an EU army that you will commit your country to a lunatics asylum ?? I quess not? Plonkers you are and Plonkets you will always be. Rule Britania blah blah...

By the way? How is the Pound in your pocket ? Soon we shall have the sixpence back or even the florin, perhaps the Lbs How about feet and inches, maybe ounces too !! What a load of first class Plonkers!!

I want the old £= 144 pence, £=20 shillings, a shilling=12 pence back.

Bring back the good old days to re-live my youth with the old currency! :lol:

Pounds and ounces are ....fantastic !! Is it 16 ounces to the Lb or 12 , can't remember. I know that 14 lbs are 1 stone and a ...handredweight is not 100 !! Its almost as weird as ...cricket with 24467 runs? Wait for it, NOT out. So if not out are they ....in ?
What an archaic system. Can't wait have to
The sixpence back and the half crown. Rule Brittania Brittania rules ......By the way, in the British days in Cyprus the pound wasn't 20 shillings and the shilling wasn't 12 piastras, oh now, bloody foreigners couldn't handle it. How the fuck did this nation ruled 38 countries I can't believe it !!
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby Kikapu » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:54 am

miltiades wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
miltiades wrote:I think we are in for some interesting ...circus acts. The Clown leading the Plonkets. What an absolute fucking joke. Are you LEs for real? Can you not see the damage that you are doing to the country ? Are you really so concerned about an EU army that you will commit your country to a lunatics asylum ?? I quess not? Plonkers you are and Plonkets you will always be. Rule Britania blah blah...

By the way? How is the Pound in your pocket ? Soon we shall have the sixpence back or even the florin, perhaps the Lbs How about feet and inches, maybe ounces too !! What a load of first class Plonkers!!

I want the old £= 144 pence, £=20 shillings, a shilling=12 pence back.

Bring back the good old days to re-live my youth with the old currency! :lol:

Pounds and ounces are ....fantastic !! Is it 16 ounces to the Lb or 12 , can't remember. I know that 14 lbs are 1 stone and a ...handredweight is not 100 !! Its almost as weird as ...cricket with 24467 runs? Wait for it, NOT out. So if not out are they ....in ?
What an archaic system. Can't wait have to
The sixpence back and the half crown. Rule Brittania Brittania rules ......By the way, in the British days in Cyprus the pound wasn't 20 shillings and the shilling wasn't 12 piastras, oh now, bloody foreigners couldn't handle it. How the fuck did this nation ruled 38 countries I can't believe it !!

I don’t know the breakdown of the Cyprus £, but only the £ in the UK.
I remember finding a pound note in Cyprus around 1962/63 where myself, my brother and our cousin bought 3 kebabs, 3 cokes and we still had money left. :D

Living in the US was totally non metric, so it was all pounds, ounces, pints, gallons, except, US gallon is less than the imperial gallon.
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