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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Paphitis » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:20 am

Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:PUBLIC SUPPORTS PROROGUING PARLIAMENT

A majority of public would support proroguing Parliament to deliver Brexit, according to new ComRes/Telegraph poll.

A majority (54%) of the public agree that Boris Johnson needs to deliver Brexit by any means, even if that meant suspending Parliament, according to the latest ComRes poll for The Telegraph.


Shows how out of touch you Remoaners are! :lol:

Single poll is meaningless as the questions asked and demographics targeted can affect the results.
What was the +/- margin of error percentage btw?


The referendum isn't meaningless. :wink:

But seriously, BOJO is riding a tidal wave of popularity right now. Most people agree with his stance and the Conservatives are +9% on the latest IPSOS Polls.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:22 am

Miltiades:
Robin, if you can remove obvious prejudices you harbour for the EU and ask your self this.

I don’t have a prejudice for the EU I just don’t think it is as successful as it would have been had it remained a economic union. d. As it turned out the bigger picture is a Federal States of Europe with Germany and France running it very much to their advantage.
If you were a manufacturing company based in the UK with your largest market next door would you feel comfortable ?

I would be cautious, consider various options and the likely effects but I would not rely on the rumour mill for information. I would also talk to my customers because in all these doom stories no one seems to consider that the EU customers still want us to both supply them with our products and buy theirs. There are always ways around problems if you gather all the intel and work out relative risk. e.g. If my normal port of entry was through Calais and the French looked as if they could get spiteful ........ then I would make plans to move to Rotterdam, Bremerhaven or Gdansk if that happened. But I would not react until I could see the trend.
Come on mate is common sense.

It is common sense to consider the options, it is stupidity to react to rumours of what certain people believe is going to happen. Far better to look at the broad picture and make sure you are prepared for any likely eventuality.
Brexit, if and when , will go down in history as the biggest blunder committed by the UK ever. All those who want out do not do so for any economic reasons, simply put they loath the EU more so with Germany being the top dog.

That is your opinion but not an opinion I would agree with! For me, although I didn’t have a vote, getting out of a club dominated by federalist’s was one reason I would have voted LEAVE. The main reason was economic and the restrictions built into the Lisbon Treaty that severely restrict member states from being the masters of their own economies. Members of the EuroZone are ruled through the ECB and the ECB operates for the interests of Germany and to a lesser degree France. Before long the EU Mandarins would move to make the UK adopt the Euro.

I think leaving the EU will turn out to be one of the better things we did and IMO I think once the UK shows the way ....... others will follow and that scares the shit out of the Federalists like Junker and Barnier. Within ten years I see the UK and other European states reverting to the EEC doctrine of a trading union.


Now a question for you: With all that is going on it seems it is very difficult to freely trade between countries without a mountain to climb to achieve it. So ...... how come they call it A FREE MARKET ECOMOMY? There seems little about it that is actually free, it is all tied down by innumerable regulation’s, quotas, restrictions, tariffs, duties, taxes and even sanctions applied by the US to protect the America First principal. :roll:
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:59 am

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:PUBLIC SUPPORTS PROROGUING PARLIAMENT

A majority of public would support proroguing Parliament to deliver Brexit, according to new ComRes/Telegraph poll.

A majority (54%) of the public agree that Boris Johnson needs to deliver Brexit by any means, even if that meant suspending Parliament, according to the latest ComRes poll for The Telegraph.


Shows how out of touch you Remoaners are! :lol:

Single poll is meaningless as the questions asked and demographics targeted can affect the results.
What was the +/- margin of error percentage btw?


The referendum isn't meaningless. :wink:

But seriously, BOJO is riding a tidal wave of popularity right now. Most people agree with his stance and the Conservatives are +9% on the latest IPSOS Polls.

interesting that he is scared to ask for an election before end of october so that tells you how he feels about the tidle wave as you call it. this is the same man who said gordon brown becoming prime minister without a general election was a “scandal” and “nothing less than a palace coup”. now that is funny becasue it seems not to apply to himself. shit will always be shit no matter how much you wash it.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:49 pm

HAMMOND HIMSELF SAID VOTING LEAVE COULD LEAD TO NO DEAL


The latest mendacious line to come from the hard Remain camp is that “nobody was told that voting Leave could lead to no deal”, with Philip Hammond going into overdrive this morning and claiming it is a “total travesty of the truth”. The problem is, as usual, it’s the Remainer line that is a “total travesty of the truth”.

Change Britain have looked at what Remainer politicians actually said and, surprise surprise, everyone from David Cameron and George Osborne to Dominic Grieve and Hilary Benn repeatedly warned voters that voting Leave would lead to Britain leaving the EU after two years, deal or no deal. Along with a certain Rt Hon. Philip Hammond M.P. at the Despatch Box in the House of Commons…
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Paphitis » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:19 pm

Lordo wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:PUBLIC SUPPORTS PROROGUING PARLIAMENT

A majority of public would support proroguing Parliament to deliver Brexit, according to new ComRes/Telegraph poll.

A majority (54%) of the public agree that Boris Johnson needs to deliver Brexit by any means, even if that meant suspending Parliament, according to the latest ComRes poll for The Telegraph.


Shows how out of touch you Remoaners are! :lol:

Single poll is meaningless as the questions asked and demographics targeted can affect the results.
What was the +/- margin of error percentage btw?


The referendum isn't meaningless. :wink:

But seriously, BOJO is riding a tidal wave of popularity right now. Most people agree with his stance and the Conservatives are +9% on the latest IPSOS Polls.

interesting that he is scared to ask for an election before end of october so that tells you how he feels about the tidle wave as you call it. this is the same man who said gordon brown becoming prime minister without a general election was a “scandal” and “nothing less than a palace coup”. now that is funny becasue it seems not to apply to himself. shit will always be shit no matter how much you wash it.


that would be very stupid.

he was put in and is expected to do a job, not have another election. People want results and people want BREXIT. They don't want another merry go round.

Once he has completed that objective, he can hold an election.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:20 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:HAMMOND HIMSELF SAID VOTING LEAVE COULD LEAD TO NO DEAL


The latest mendacious line to come from the hard Remain camp is that “nobody was told that voting Leave could lead to no deal”, with Philip Hammond going into overdrive this morning and claiming it is a “total travesty of the truth”. The problem is, as usual, it’s the Remainer line that is a “total travesty of the truth”.

Change Britain have looked at what Remainer politicians actually said and, surprise surprise, everyone from David Cameron and George Osborne to Dominic Grieve and Hilary Benn repeatedly warned voters that voting Leave would lead to Britain leaving the EU after two years, deal or no deal. Along with a certain Rt Hon. Philip Hammond M.P. at the Despatch Box in the House of Commons…

you can bury your head under the sand all you like. the enormity of leaving the eu is still not relaised by some including yourself. gradually people are begining to realise that it simply cannot be done. it takes years to agree on the wto schedules and the only solution the brexiteers have come up with of zero rate tax for everything. they don't even ralise the consequences of this simple act. i wonder if you do? what would happen to our economy if we zero-rated all our imports and at the same time all wto members applied their taxes on all our exports which they will do?

do you even understand why countries on wto rules apply taxes on their imports?

oh and by the way, if you think that we had problem with 27 countries agreeing with us in the eu, you got a nice surprise coming with trying to agree with 160 countries round the world. after all all of them individually have the right to block your wto specs.

how can what seems like an normal man be so stupid?
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Paphitis » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:24 pm

Lordo wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:HAMMOND HIMSELF SAID VOTING LEAVE COULD LEAD TO NO DEAL


The latest mendacious line to come from the hard Remain camp is that “nobody was told that voting Leave could lead to no deal”, with Philip Hammond going into overdrive this morning and claiming it is a “total travesty of the truth”. The problem is, as usual, it’s the Remainer line that is a “total travesty of the truth”.

Change Britain have looked at what Remainer politicians actually said and, surprise surprise, everyone from David Cameron and George Osborne to Dominic Grieve and Hilary Benn repeatedly warned voters that voting Leave would lead to Britain leaving the EU after two years, deal or no deal. Along with a certain Rt Hon. Philip Hammond M.P. at the Despatch Box in the House of Commons…

you can bury your head under the sand all you like. the enormity of leaving the eu is still not relaised by some including yourself. gradually people are begining to realise that it simply cannot be done. it takes years to agree on the wto schedules and the only solution the brexiteers have come up with of zero rate tax for everything. they don't even ralise the consequences of this simple act. i wonder if you do? what would happen to our economy if we zero-rated all our imports and at the same time all wto members applied their taxes on all our exports which they will do?

do you even understand why countries on wto rules apply taxes on their imports?

oh and by the way, if you think that we had problem with 27 countries agreeing with us in the eu, you got a nice surprise coming with trying to agree with 160 countries round the world. after all all of them individually have the right to block your wto specs.

how can what seems like an normal man be so stupid?


here is one for you, EU boats will not be allowed to fish in British wagers.

Britain can ban Hiawei on its own as well.

And can enter into free trade deals with the US and Australia. :D

All I see is plenty of upside! 8)

Dang! :D
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:33 pm

Those that claim Boris is 'scared' to call an election seem not to have heard of the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 :roll:
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Paphitis » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:44 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:Those that claim Boris is 'scared' to call an election seem not to have heard of the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 :roll:


Shame.

After BREXIT, BOJO would have otherwise have called an election and won a landslide victory! :D
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:46 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:HAMMOND HIMSELF SAID VOTING LEAVE COULD LEAD TO NO DEAL


The latest mendacious line to come from the hard Remain camp is that “nobody was told that voting Leave could lead to no deal”, with Philip Hammond going into overdrive this morning and claiming it is a “total travesty of the truth”. The problem is, as usual, it’s the Remainer line that is a “total travesty of the truth”.

Change Britain have looked at what Remainer politicians actually said and, surprise surprise, everyone from David Cameron and George Osborne to Dominic Grieve and Hilary Benn repeatedly warned voters that voting Leave would lead to Britain leaving the EU after two years, deal or no deal. Along with a certain Rt Hon. Philip Hammond M.P. at the Despatch Box in the House of Commons…

and of course what was the brexiteers comment regarding these warnings? Do you remember? they were acused of "project fear", that it would never happen becasue the germans and french will make a deal with us. like hell they could. only last week bojo declared that leaving the eu without a deal is a million to one. i mean the lies are continuing while they are spending money left right an centre to prpare for no deal. prepare for what? we will not be able to continue to trade under the wto rules becasue we have no schedules approved, there are thousands of product groups and there are thousands of products in each group to negotiate. my god there is being dense, and there is being dense. we have to find a new word

you can bury your head under the sand all you like. the enormity of leaving the eu is still not relaised by some including yourself. gradually people are begining to realise that it simply cannot be done. it takes years to agree on the wto schedules and the only solution the brexiteers have come up with of zero rate tax for everything. they don't even ralise the consequences of this simple act. i wonder if you do? what would happen to our economy if we zero-rated all our imports and at the same time all wto members applied their taxes on all our exports which they will do?

do you even understand why countries on wto rules apply taxes on their imports?

oh and by the way, if you think that we had problem with 27 countries agreeing with us in the eu, you got a nice surprise coming with trying to agree with 160 countries round the world. after all all of them individually have the right to block your wto specs.

how can what seems like an normal man be so stupid?


here is one for you, EU boats will not be allowed to fish in British wagers.

Britain can ban Hiawei on its own as well.

And can enter into free trade deals with the US and Australia. :D

All I see is plenty of upside! 8)

Dang! :D

its funny how usa only yesterday proposed a free trade deal with uk but one sector at a time. gues who this would favour? funny enough though the eu also proposed this sector by sector to the americans and they refused it. i wonder why?

as too free trade deal with australia, you keep your hormone fed beef to yourselves. and the yanks can keep their beef and chickens too. thanks but no thanks.
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