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[Lordo]

and before you start harking on about << re-establishing the state of affairs created by the present Treaty>> you must take into consideration that the perpetratos of the attack on roc were the griik sheepriots and griiiks. you can hardly put the bastards who tried had a coup back in power dear boy. common sense saya we shall return to a single state but not just bi-communal which it was before but with the added bit bi zonal. after all you do not open the cage of the tiger and let them loose in the streets right.

get your fakin thinking cap on for just a few segonds.

[Pyrpolizer]

Vermouth and other wine of fresh grapes flavoured with plants or aromatic substances €0.11 per liter

https://madb.europa.eu/madb/euTariffs.h ... country=IL

Perhaps you could outline the tariffs the EU imposes on coffee and sugar for instance...?

Get yourself a cup of coffee before you start, it is a very long and complex list...

Oh and I think you'll find 45% in there somewhere too...

I just did!
0% from Brazil
https://madb.europa.eu/madb/euTariffs.h ... country=BR

[miltiades]

Balance of power will change once Turkey is out of NATO. It looks as if this scenario isnt that far away. If the Cypriots have any sense they should start preparing their application to join NATO. I doubt it though, far too attached to Russian and Chinese dosh. Remember, what rules here in Cyprus
is ....DOSH. Plenty of it !
I was told the other day by an angler on the pier " O kipreos poula to vizi tis manas tou yia 5 evro. Another one joined in replying " je to allon yia 2

[Lordo]

Balance of power will change once Turkey is out of NATO. It looks as if this scenario isnt that far away. If the Cypriots have any sense they should start preparing their application to join NATO. I doubt it though, far too attached to Russian and Chinese dosh. Remember, what rules here in Cyprus
is ....DOSH. Plenty of it !
I was told the other day by an angler on the pier " O kipreos poula to vizi tis manas tou yia 5 evro. Another one joined in replying " je to allon yia 2

don't be silly milti. america has 40 bases in terggy some in the north east close to old soviet republics border on mountains. they are not about to give them up. at worst they will remove erdogan and thats easy now that he has lost istanbul and ankara which was where his bribe money came from. if imamoglu can win istnabul against all the corrupt practices of erdogan, he can also win the presidency with america's blessing. nothing is black and white when america is involved. there are the different power sectors in america, deep state, cia and state department. it is not easy to see who is doing what at any one time.

[Pyrpolizer]

There won't be any imaginary new trade partners with you guys, the cost of shipping to the US or Australia is huge, the EU will still be your main trade partner, and won't restrict your exports to member states with any strangling tariffs. It's your Government that will impose high protection tariffs on EU products just to suck your money.
Back to square 1.

Shipping is almost free these days... That is why you can buy stuff made in China for pennies...

Airfreight is obviously more expensive but no longer prohibitive.

And of course the UK can set tariffs as it chooses once it leaves the EU...

Almost free... yeah right. In most cases when it's actually not restricting is about 2-3 times the EU import tariff. Perhaps you never imported or exported anything.Try exporting plastic water pipes for example. Try sending your furniture from Cyprus to the UK....

You too just tell me which new exports will the UK achieve after Brexit.

[Kikapu]

and before you start harking on about << re-establishing the state of affairs created by the present Treaty>> you must take into consideration that the perpetratos of the attack on roc were the griik sheepriots and griiiks. you can hardly put the bastards who tried had a coup back in power dear boy. common sense saya we shall return to a single state but not just bi-communal which it was before but with the added bit bi zonal. after all you do not open the cage of the tiger and let them loose in the streets right.

get your fakin thinking cap on for just a few segonds.

But Lordo, you are now contradicting yourself regarding changing of signed treaties unilaterally with your above justifications as to why Turkey did not return the state of affairs after 1974, especially when the main instigator of the coup was no longer in power, the Greek military junta.

[miltiades]

The Daily Express must be the worst " newspaper" in the UK. Most of its readers, if not all are little Englanders and geriatrics. Its articles are so extremely biased which renders the paper as not deserving the name Newspaper. A couple of days back it wrote "Sterling SOARS against the Euro "!!!
Soars?? Are they joking ? Still " leavers must have believed this total nonsense. Sterling will continue it's downward journey with a few fleeting upward movements whenever something positive about NO Brexshit is announced. The stupid plonkers have the worlds largest trading block on their doorstep but they are busy making trade deals with Pakistan, Bangladesh, Turkey not forgetting Cameroon and Bolivia !! Driven by a hatred against Europe and immense jealousy they want out. It is inconceivable that this great nation might be forced to crumble abd it's economy reduced to that of the above listed counties.

[Lordo]

and before you start harking on about << re-establishing the state of affairs created by the present Treaty>> you must take into consideration that the perpetratos of the attack on roc were the griik sheepriots and griiiks. you can hardly put the bastards who tried had a coup back in power dear boy. common sense saya we shall return to a single state but not just bi-communal which it was before but with the added bit bi zonal. after all you do not open the cage of the tiger and let them loose in the streets right.

get your fakin thinking cap on for just a few segonds.

But Lordo, you are now contradicting yourself regarding changing of signed treaties unilaterally with your above justifications as to why Turkey did not return the state of affairs after 1974, especially when the main instigator of the coup was no longer in power, the Greek military junta.

no contradiciton there, only in your mind. the main instigator was groc. the establishment in cyprus which is still in control to this day no matter who is elected. junta has gone but the griik government policy has not changed over cyprus. the griik troops are stil in cyprus to this day and are still in control of the griik cypriot national guard.

who are you kidding. there is only one way forward and that is bbf. that is the accepted political reality today including the un. till bbf is achieved, with poitical equality between the two federal states which has been signed for terggy is not going anywhere. that is restoring the old state of affiars becasue tcs had that in 1960 with the veto. what the griik sheepriots want is not to go back to 1960 but to 1964 when they removed the veto by themselves which in itself is not legal under any court. I would love nothing more for griik sheepriots to accept the old state of affairs, and let tcs vote for their mps to take their place in roc parliament under 1960 constitutions. has any gc to this day suggested such a thig.

that does not mean i want the terggs to stay, i dislike gacos more than the average gc but majority of tcs believe in one simple phrase. denize dusen yilana sarilir deller.

till we have an agreement for the new state fo affairs there is nothing illegal about hwat terggy has done.

[Kikapu]

and before you start harking on about << re-establishing the state of affairs created by the present Treaty>> you must take into consideration that the perpetratos of the attack on roc were the griik sheepriots and griiiks. you can hardly put the bastards who tried had a coup back in power dear boy. common sense saya we shall return to a single state but not just bi-communal which it was before but with the added bit bi zonal. after all you do not open the cage of the tiger and let them loose in the streets right.

get your fakin thinking cap on for just a few segonds.

But Lordo, you are now contradicting yourself regarding changing of signed treaties unilaterally with your above justifications as to why Turkey did not return the state of affairs after 1974, especially when the main instigator of the coup was no longer in power, the Greek military junta.

no contradiciton there, only in your mind. the main instigator was groc. the establishment in cyprus which is still in control to this day no matter who is elected. junta has gone but the griik government policy has not changed over cyprus. the griik troops are stil in cyprus to this day and are still in control of the griik cypriot national guard.

who are you kidding. there is only one way forward and that is bbf. that is the accepted political reality today including the un. till bbf is achieved, with poitical equality between the two federal states which has been signed for terggy is not going anywhere. that is restoring the old state of affiars becasue tcs had that in 1960 with the veto. what the griik sheepriots want is not to go back to 1960 but to 1964 when they removed the veto by themselves which in itself is not legal under any court. I would love nothing more for griik sheepriots to accept the old state of affairs, and let tcs vote for their mps to take their place in roc parliament under 1960 constitutions. has any gc to this day suggested such a thig.

that does not mean i want the terggs to stay, i dislike gacos more than the average gc but majority of tcs believe in one simple phrase. denize dusen yilana sarilir deller.

till we have an agreement for the new state fo affairs there is nothing illegal about hwat terggy has done.

No, there is no going back to 1960, but also, there won’t be BBF today with 1960 terms in place as well as new ones with rotating presidency, no land adjustments based on ownership and population % ratio, all settlers remaining and anything that is against EU values. Present status quo will remain as is for the foreseeable future as there is very little incentives for the GCs to go into BBF with with the TCs and Turkey, especially when the money starts rolling in from the hydrocarbons.

[Lordo]

and before you start harking on about << re-establishing the state of affairs created by the present Treaty>> you must take into consideration that the perpetratos of the attack on roc were the griik sheepriots and griiiks. you can hardly put the bastards who tried had a coup back in power dear boy. common sense saya we shall return to a single state but not just bi-communal which it was before but with the added bit bi zonal. after all you do not open the cage of the tiger and let them loose in the streets right.

get your fakin thinking cap on for just a few segonds.

But Lordo, you are now contradicting yourself regarding changing of signed treaties unilaterally with your above justifications as to why Turkey did not return the state of affairs after 1974, especially when the main instigator of the coup was no longer in power, the Greek military junta.

no contradiciton there, only in your mind. the main instigator was groc. the establishment in cyprus which is still in control to this day no matter who is elected. junta has gone but the griik government policy has not changed over cyprus. the griik troops are stil in cyprus to this day and are still in control of the griik cypriot national guard.

who are you kidding. there is only one way forward and that is bbf. that is the accepted political reality today including the un. till bbf is achieved, with poitical equality between the two federal states which has been signed for terggy is not going anywhere. that is restoring the old state of affiars becasue tcs had that in 1960 with the veto. what the griik sheepriots want is not to go back to 1960 but to 1964 when they removed the veto by themselves which in itself is not legal under any court. I would love nothing more for griik sheepriots to accept the old state of affairs, and let tcs vote for their mps to take their place in roc parliament under 1960 constitutions. has any gc to this day suggested such a thig.

that does not mean i want the terggs to stay, i dislike gacos more than the average gc but majority of tcs believe in one simple phrase. denize dusen yilana sarilir deller.

till we have an agreement for the new state fo affairs there is nothing illegal about hwat terggy has done.

No, there is no going back to 1960, but also, there won’t be BBF today with 1960 terms in place as well as new ones with rotating presidency, no land adjustments based on ownership and population % ratio, all settlers remaining and anything that is against EU values. Present status quo will remain as is for the foreseeable future as there is very little incentives for the GCs to go into BBF with with the TCs and Turkey, especially when the money starts rolling in from the hydrocarbons.

you see what i mean, you are now contradicting yourself. on one side you are blamig terggy for not going back to the staus quo but on the other side you are saying your side does not want to either. hence the new deal. bbf becasue it is either that or two states. the only other possibility is confederation. unitary state is out. take your pick.
what eu rules are you talking about man, groc allows labour bonding. the eu accepted the the annan plan as did even griis. get over it.

bbf will be based on relaities of today as invisaged in 2004 with some changes or two state solution.