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[cyprusgrump]

While trading goods with the EU after Brexit with no deal, is not expected to bring up any dramatic change
[e.g. the UK will still export half the value of the cars she imports], it will have a huge impact on the Financial and other services sector which is it's biggest trading sector with the EU. Simply because it will lose the free movement and settlement facility. But this is what they want either with a deal or no deal, right?

The idea that London will cease to be the financial capital of Europe post Brexit is just Guardian Remoaner fantasy...

London has everything going for it, location (time zone), language, communications...

There are good reasons why London is such a big player in the market - and it isn't EU membership...

[Londonrake]

The idea that London will cease to be the financial capital of Europe post Brexit is just Guardian Remoaner fantasy...

London has everything going for it, location (time zone), language, communications...

There are good reasons why London is such a big player in the market - and it isn't EU membership...

It's all whack-a-mole bullshit. You'd think that the EU gets such things from the UK as an act of charity. There are so many other options, after all.

GR - what do you think of people on here who say that they hope Brexit happens so that basically the hated British will suffer the consequences? Whilst, in other posts they talk about the evils of racism.

Just sayin'.

[Lordo]

now here is a very interesting thought. if you look at why the tories wanted to brexit in the first place, it was becasue the eu was bringing financial regulations in and london wanted to be excluded from these regulations. cameron tried very hard to get an exclusion and was told to get on his horse. what will that mean to the services they offer if they are not alligned to the finacial regulations of the eu? i suspect not very well. it is like bringing in chlorinated chicken from the usa. imagine we are outside of the eu so we bring chlorinated chicken and pass them on to the europeans.

irony of course of all this was that people were very upset with the financiers and voted brexit to punish them as they were making a killing in the eu and the poor sods could not get a look in.

oh yeah and pigs will fly too.

i still maintain that we will be unable to trade using wto and the absence of any agreement with implementation trade will the eu will stop overnight as well as any other country.

how do we trade without wto facility or some trade agreement.

watch this. very revealing. no really it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=5DIz9UTmMQk

[cyprusgrump]

now here is a very interesting thought. if you look at why the tories wanted to brexit in the first place, it was becasue the eu was bringing financial regulations in and london wanted to be excluded from these regulations. cameron tried very hard to get an exclusion and was told to get on his horse. what will that mean to the services they offer if they are not alligned to the finacial regulations of the eu? i suspect not very well. it is like bringing in chlorinated chicken from the usa. imagine we are outside of the eu so we bring chlorinated chicken and pass them on to the europeans.

irony of course of all this was that people were very upset with the financiers and voted brexit to punish them as they were making a killing in the eu and the poor sods could not get a look in.

oh yeah and pigs will fly too.

i still maintain that we will be unable to trade using wto and the absence of any agreement with implementation trade will the eu will stop overnight as well as any other country.

how do we trade without wto facility or some trade agreement.

watch this. very revealing. no really it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=5DIz9UTmMQk

Did you get that from The Guardian...?

Honestly, you should switch to The Beano for more informed and detailed information!

[Pyrpolizer]

While trading goods with the EU after Brexit with no deal, is not expected to bring up any dramatic change
[e.g. the UK will still export half the value of the cars she imports], it will have a huge impact on the Financial and other services sector which is it's biggest trading sector with the EU. Simply because it will lose the free movement and settlement facility. But this is what they want either with a deal or no deal, right?

The idea that London will cease to be the financial capital of Europe post Brexit is just Guardian Remoaner fantasy...

London has everything going for it, location (time zone), language, communications...

There are good reasons why London is such a big player in the market - and it isn't EU membership...

Like for example pursuing policies favoring the city of London position as a Financial center, when those policies were destroying the UK's manufacturing base? You think the Americans were stupid letting the crown fly from New York to London?

Besides I didn't talk of the Financial services of the city of London alone. I said Financial and other services (legal, accounting, advertising, research and development, architectural, engineering, tourism, Telecoms, computer and information, etc.). This is the services sector as opposed to the goods sector.

You don't need to read biased media. Just check whether it's true or not that assets already started flying away.

[Pyrpolizer]

The idea that London will cease to be the financial capital of Europe post Brexit is just Guardian Remoaner fantasy...

London has everything going for it, location (time zone), language, communications...

There are good reasons why London is such a big player in the market - and it isn't EU membership...

It's all whack-a-mole bullshit. You'd think that the EU gets such things from the UK as an act of charity. There are so many other options, after all.

GR - what do you think of people on here who say that they hope Brexit happens so that basically the hated British will suffer the consequences? Whilst, in other posts they talk about the evils of racism.

Just sayin'.

I was the one who said that, and still wish it happens. I want the UK out for political reasons.
But as you may notice I try to convince you it's going to harm your economy.

[Lordo]

now here is a very interesting thought. if you look at why the tories wanted to brexit in the first place, it was becasue the eu was bringing financial regulations in and london wanted to be excluded from these regulations. cameron tried very hard to get an exclusion and was told to get on his horse. what will that mean to the services they offer if they are not alligned to the finacial regulations of the eu? i suspect not very well. it is like bringing in chlorinated chicken from the usa. imagine we are outside of the eu so we bring chlorinated chicken and pass them on to the europeans.

irony of course of all this was that people were very upset with the financiers and voted brexit to punish them as they were making a killing in the eu and the poor sods could not get a look in.

oh yeah and pigs will fly too.

i still maintain that we will be unable to trade using wto and the absence of any agreement with implementation trade will the eu will stop overnight as well as any other country.

how do we trade without wto facility or some trade agreement.

watch this. very revealing. no really it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=5DIz9UTmMQk

Did you get that from The Guardian...?

Honestly, you should switch to The Beano for more informed and detailed information!

i am afraid nothing has cme from the gruniad.

lbc guest is an expert on wto rules. to operate we will need to negotiate 4500procut groups with each one anything upto 3000 products. g financial regulations that came from the horses mouth. there were 3 documentaries which posted earlier and on oneof them it was mentioned in the background chat between cameron his assistant and that yorkshire twitt called willy haige.

i will post it again and wil tell you which bit of the clip it is mentioned in. in fact cameron went to negotiate and threatend to block other business if he does not get his way. they worked around him and he came back with nothing but he actually descibed it as looking after british inyterests.

you really need to stop reading beano. not good for your brains

sometimes you have to reach beyond the media and listen to the people who were there negotiating.

7 minutes in you get a taster on how they were trying to protect the city form the new eurozone rules. even though it was only agoing to affect the euozone, but cameron was asking to be protected from them.

remember 7 minutes onwards. infact this should be watched complete becasue you wil lget a very good idea what was going on in the uk and why tories were edging towards brexit despite the chaos it will cause. enjoy

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x71isj8

[Pyrpolizer]

lbc guest is an expert on wto rules. to operate we will need to negotiate 4500procut groups with each one anything upto 3000 products.

I think that was to re-establish free trade deals with non -EU Countries after Brexit?
not sure have to see your video later.
Anyway trading can be done with no deal, who ever signed a deal with Taiwan-a non recognized country yet everybody trades with it.

[Lordo]

lbc guest is an expert on wto rules. to operate we will need to negotiate 4500procut groups with each one anything upto 3000 products.

I think that was to re-establish free trade deals with non -EU Countries after Brexit?
not sure have to see your video later.
Anyway trading can be done with no deal, who ever signed a deal with Taiwan-a non recognized country yet everybody trades with it.

well not just non-eu countries alsoeu countries if we leave without a deal.

is there a single country who is trading with a trade deal and not in a free trade area. wto has 164 countries inc all 27 eu countries. another problem with the wto is that all 164 will have to agree with out proposal and america brazil and new zealand have already objected to uk proposal.

[Paphitis]

here is a question for those who import export accross borders in and outside eu. can i as an individula order something from another country and have it delivered without an trade agreement between uk and the supplying country?

there are now people propogating the idea that ultimately money talks and companies will deliver with or without a trade deal.

Of course you can do it. No trade agreement is required. As long as the supplying country/firm can provide the relevant certificates a UK importer can import anything he wants.

The vast majority of products don't need any certificates. What certificate would you need to import furniture for example??
However there are some restrictions in certain products e.g. For plants, vegetables, seeds etc he will need Phytosanitary certificates as for live or processed food the certificates themselves are only good to import and store the products. From there on they have to be checked from the local authority and government lab before been released for human consumption.

Buying things is the easiest thing to do. Selling is the most difficult thing.
The UK will have no problem doing imports (buying) after Brexit with no deal, but will have a great difficulty doing exports(selling things).
Therefore it's trade deficit will increase.
EU exporters to the UK will also suffer the same. E.g. Cypriot potatoes won't sell as easy anymore in the UK.

there will be no difficulty in selling things.

Trade will continue both ways. People in the EU will still be buying Jaguar, Land Rover, Range Rovers and Aston Martin's.

These cars are not owned by UK companies any longer if my information is correct.

they are British icons.

No company is fully owned by a country. The stock market makes company ownership extremely fluid and border-less. What matters is where these vehicles are manufactured and from where they are sold.