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US House says Armenian mass killing was genocide

Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:32 pm

US House says Armenian mass killing was genocide

The US House of Representatives has voted overwhelmingly in favour of recognising the mass killing of Armenians by Ottoman Turks during World War One as a genocide.
The issue is highly sensitive and comes amid deteriorating US-Turkey relations.
Presidential hopeful Joe Biden said the vote honoured the memory of victims.
Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said the "worthless" vote, which was held on Turkey's National Day, was the "biggest insult" to Turkish people.
There is general agreement that hundreds of thousands of Armenians died when the Ottoman Turks deported them en masse from eastern Anatolia to the Syrian desert and elsewhere in 1915-16. They were killed or died from starvation or disease.
The total number of Armenian dead is disputed. Armenians say 1.5 million died. The Republic of Turkey estimates the total to be 300,000. According to the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS), the death toll was "more than a million".

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Re: US House says Armenian mass killing was genocide

Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:57 pm

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U.S. House of Representatives Passes Resolution Recognizing Armenian, Assyrian, Greek Genocide
Posted 2019-10-29 22:17 GMT


(AINA) -- In a landmark vote, the U.S. House of Representatives passed Resolution 296, which recognizes the genocide of Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks by the Ottoman Empire during World War one. The resolution received 237 yeas, 4 nays (all Republicans), 2 present, and 189 not voting.

The Turkish genocide killed 750,000 Assyrians (75%), one million Greeks and 1.5 million Armenians.

The resolution is non-binding.

Here is the text of the resolution:

Affirming the United States record on the Armenian Genocide.
Whereas the United States has a proud history of recognizing and condemning the Armenian Genocide, the killing of 1.5 million Armenians by the Ottoman Empire from 1915 to 1923, and providing relief to the survivors of the campaign of genocide against Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians, Chaldeans, Syriacs, Arameans, Maronites, and other Christians;

Whereas the Honorable Henry Morgenthau, United States Ambassador to the Ottoman Empire from 1913 to 1916, organized and led protests by officials of many countries against what he described as the empire's "campaign of race extermination", and was instructed on July 16, 1915, by United States Secretary of State Robert Lansing that the "Department approves your procedure...to stop Armenian persecution";

Whereas President Woodrow Wilson encouraged the formation of the Near East Relief, chartered by an Act of Congress, which raised $116,000,000 (over $2,500,000,000 in 2019 dollars) between 1915 and 1930, and the Senate adopted resolutions condemning these massacres;

Whereas Raphael Lemkin, who coined the term "genocide" in 1944, and who was the earliest proponent of the United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide, invoked the Armenian case as a definitive example of genocide in the 20th century;

Whereas, as displayed in the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Adolf Hitler, on ordering his military commanders to attack Poland without provocation in 1939, dismissed objections by saying "[w]ho, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?", setting the stage for the Holocaust;

Whereas the United States has officially recognized the Armenian Genocide, through the United States Government's May 28, 1951, written statement to the International Court of Justice regarding the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, through President Ronald Reagan's Proclamation No. 4838 on April 22, 1981, and by House Joint Resolution 148, adopted on April 8, 1975, and House Joint Resolution 247, adopted on September 10, 1984; and

Whereas the Elie Wiesel Genocide and Atrocities Prevention Act of 2018 (Public Law 115-441) establishes that atrocities prevention represents a United States national interest, and affirms that it is the policy of the United States to pursue a United States Government-wide strategy to identify, prevent, and respond to the risk of atrocities by "strengthening diplomatic response and the effective use of foreign assistance to support appropriate transitional justice measures, including criminal accountability, for past atrocities": Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that it is the policy of the United States to--

(1) commemorate the Armenian Genocide through official recognition and remembrance;

(2) reject efforts to enlist, engage, or otherwise associate the United States Government with denial of the Armenian Genocide or any other genocide; and

(3) encourage education and public understanding of the facts of the Armenian Genocide, including the United States role in the humanitarian relief effort, and the relevance of the Armenian Genocide to modern-day crimes against humanity.

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Re: US House says Armenian mass killing was genocide

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:02 pm

...one hopes that when the Treaty of Lausanne is revisited, (and it will be), the governments concerned will demonstrate the same conviction, regarding Turkey's (maximalist) demands, on and in the sea, and with all its neighbours.

With a small change in intentions, by recognising that Cypriots exist, he may not only regain a lustre to Turkey's tarnished reputation in Cyprus and around the would, but with this Hope the unity of his People, and those like the Syrians who desperately seek the same capacity toward peaceful social-exchange.

Turkey has learned a lot, if one learns from mistakes, i am hopeful the it will not come down to this, a Turkey divided, made impotent; who died by the sword, as they lived by the sword.
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Re: US House says Armenian mass killing was genocide

Postby Lordo » Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:54 pm

i would stop salivating over this. nothing will happen from it but people will suffer. the first people who will suffer the armenians left in terggy around about 300,000 or so. secondly it will affect the relationship between terggy and armenia.

listen to this armenian tell you about armenian genocide from his grave. he suffered one such act after some swine or other thought it would be a good idea to declare armenian massacres a genocide. of course not forgetting the genocide of the american natives all 36 million of them.

may their god forgive them for they not know what they did.

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Re: US House says Armenian mass killing was genocide

Postby Lordo » Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:59 pm

here he is again telling you about the situation. he is explaining about your situation too. they depended on the english and the french tohelp them against the ottomans. they suffered the same fate kurds suffered just recently. they were there while it suited them but when it did not they abondened them to the ottomans.

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Re: US House says Armenian mass killing was genocide

Postby Maximus » Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:40 pm

Lordo wrote:i would stop salivating over this. nothing will happen from it but people will suffer. the first people who will suffer the armenians left in terggy around about 300,000 or so. secondly it will affect the relationship between terggy and armenia.

may their god forgive them for they not know what they did.



This is probably one of the most moronic things I have ever read.

"dont get excited that the US has recognized it as a genocide otherwise the Turks will make the Armenians suffer some more. Its gonna be all their fault".

"dont recognize it as a genocide otherwise Turkey might persecute them. Its gonna be all their fault"

way to tell everyone that the Turks lack humanities.
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Re: US House says Armenian mass killing was genocide

Postby Lordo » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:05 pm

Maximus wrote:
Lordo wrote:i would stop salivating over this. nothing will happen from it but people will suffer. the first people who will suffer the armenians left in terggy around about 300,000 or so. secondly it will affect the relationship between terggy and armenia.

may their god forgive them for they not know what they did.



This is probably one of the most moronic things I have ever read.

"dont get excited that the US has recognized it as a genocide otherwise the Turks will make the Armenians suffer some more. Its gonna be all their fault".

"dont recognize it as a genocide otherwise Turkey might persecute them. Its gonna be all their fault"

way to tell everyone that the Turks lack humanities.

thay's because you did not understand what i wrote. i did not say it was their fault.

he said but the ottomans oppressed us we made a mistake trusting others to help us fight the ottomans and they did so long as it suited them and then they left us to the ottomans. my comment was that the kurds have done the same thing. i am not saying it was his fault, he is the one who said it was a mistake to rely on somebody else to help us.
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Re: US House says Armenian mass killing was genocide

Postby Maximus » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:34 pm

Lordo wrote:i would stop salivating over this. nothing will happen from it but people will suffer. the first people who will suffer the armenians left in terggy around about 300,000 or so. secondly it will affect the relationship between terggy and armenia.

listen to this armenian tell you about armenian genocide from his grave. he suffered one such act after some swine or other thought it would be a good idea to declare armenian massacres a genocide. of course not forgetting the genocide of the american natives all 36 million of them.

may their god forgive them for they not know what they did.



You said what you said and it is probably one of the most moronic things I have ever read.
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Re: US House says Armenian mass killing was genocide

Postby Lordo » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:46 pm

Maximus wrote:
Lordo wrote:i would stop salivating over this. nothing will happen from it but people will suffer. the first people who will suffer the armenians left in terggy around about 300,000 or so. secondly it will affect the relationship between terggy and armenia.

listen to this armenian tell you about armenian genocide from his grave. he suffered one such act after some swine or other thought it would be a good idea to declare armenian massacres a genocide. of course not forgetting the genocide of the american natives all 36 million of them.

may their god forgive them for they not know what they did.



You said what you said and it is probably one of the most moronic things I have ever read.

you still don't get it. i only translated it into english. hrant dink who was quite a well know armenian writer said it asshole.
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Re: US House says Armenian mass killing was genocide

Postby Maximus » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:55 pm

You try to twist and turn like Maradona but you are an amateur.

You would stop salivating over this being recognized as a genocide because of the reasons you gave. :roll:

Still is, one of the most moronic things I have ever read.
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