The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


BBF or BBC? "Indigenous" is the wrong word

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

BBF or BBC? "Indigenous" is the wrong word

Postby MrH » Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:40 pm

Personally, unless Akinci and Anastasiades miraculously move away from a BBF (Federal) to a BBC (Con-federal), I see no hope of a breakthrough with the talks. As for the word/term “indigenous”, in places like the UK, and particularly the U.S that could be classed as being borderline racist.

That’s the issue with Cyprus, it has no accepted Nationality; like being British by default if you were born there by let’s say a Polish family whom have newly had children in the UK. In Cyprus we are still bent on this Greek and Turkish Cypriot thing, “settlers” etc, even though we have people in the “TRNC” originally from Turkey after 1974 now with Children born here and are now in their 40s (whom also have children of their own as second generation “Cypriot born” and have never known their native roots in Turkey for instance). Would they now not be Cypriot by Nationality, or does being “Cypriot” only follow an ethnic bloodline? This is where the island loses, particularly now it (Cyprus) has become an EU member. In as little as 20 years from now, due to the influx of people from the EU in the South, and Turkish people in the North, a huge percentage of births are now from none-indigenous “Cypriots”. Thus, being Cypriot should, and will, become a Nationality as opposed to an historical bloodline. This is where Anastasiades will lose in his UN talks in the future as the EU do not see his idea of being an "indigenous Cypriot" as being Politically correct.

The delaying of resolving the Cyprus issue from 1974, particularly on the Turkish side, and now seeing it on the Greek side after entering the EU, is no longer about being an indigenous Turkish or Greek Cypriot but more like where you were born after 1974 and how long your parents have lived on the island. In that capacity, and yes, the indigenous “Turkish Cypriot” are a minority in the North by hundreds of thousands.

That’s where a settlement under what Anastasiades is seeking under a Federal deal is practically impossible.
User avatar
MrH
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 1090
Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:18 pm
Location: London

Re: BBF or BBC? "Indigenous" is the wrong word

Postby Sotos » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:36 pm

It is too late for an agreed solution. There will be no solution, and we reserve our rights to our own lands.
User avatar
Sotos
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 11288
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 2:50 am

Re: BBF or BBC? "Indigenous" is the wrong word

Postby Maximus » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:45 pm

:roll:

What a perverted and ridiculous view of the Turkish occupation of Cyprus, as compared to the rest of he civilized world.
Maximus
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 4995
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:23 pm

Re: BBF or BBC? "Indigenous" is the wrong word

Postby MrH » Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:52 am

Clearly you haven’t read my post properly. Did you NOT understand its complexity? The solution has already been made. “Nationality” The Western world’s greatest achievement in covering its past atrocities. Why should Cyprus be any different particularly now it’s been tricked into EU membership? You lost Northern Cyprus the moment you were tricked into EU membership! What a joke. Even the UK were, and are still, laughing. Forget about the U.N. talks now - it’s fate is sealed forever!
Last edited by MrH on Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:55 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
MrH
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 1090
Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:18 pm
Location: London

Re: BBF or BBC? "Indigenous" is the wrong word

Postby MrH » Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:54 am

Sotos wrote:It is too late for an agreed solution. There will be no solution, and we reserve our rights to our own lands.


Yep! Your remaining land in the South. Enjoy it until the EU floods it with its own nationals and you become a minority, which is not far off!
User avatar
MrH
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 1090
Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:18 pm
Location: London

Re: BBF or BBC? "Indigenous" is the wrong word

Postby MrH » Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:59 am

Maximus wrote::roll:

What a perverted and ridiculous view of the Turkish occupation of Cyprus, as compared to the rest of he civilized world.


Seriously? You mean “Liberation” don’t you? The Turkish Cypriots persevered for 11 years from 1963-1974 for you to get your act together and dim-witted Greece still went fourth and instigated t he Coup for Enosis again on the 15th July 1974. It was your doing, so please stop crying and talking rubbish. Please advise your leader to cease the U.N. Talks if he believes he’s so right.

Be ready for PM Ersin Tatar when he becomes President and Negotiator for our side, only then you will feel the pinch. Enjoy Akinci’s imaginary Federal wish. as soon, the UN will have no choice but to inform your side of the real state of play!
User avatar
MrH
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 1090
Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:18 pm
Location: London

Re: BBF or BBC? "Indigenous" is the wrong word

Postby MrH » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:07 pm

https://www.lgcnews.com/government-does-not-back-akincis-views-on-cyprob/

Take a read of the link above. They are the true players in the North and not Akinci!
User avatar
MrH
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 1090
Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:18 pm
Location: London

Re: BBF or BBC? "Indigenous" is the wrong word

Postby Mustiejodu » Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:35 am

On the subject of murder. I would like to understand the Greek Cypriot way of thinking. I am on the Greek side as often as I am on the Turkish side as I am married to a British born Greek Cypriot. I do the same test on both sides and speak English when I inquire so the person I put this question thinks I am British Greek Cypriot on the South and British Turkish Cypriot in the north. When I inquire about going to the Turkish side to a GC 70% of the time I am told not to go as the Turkish soldiers kill you on that side but when I ask a TC I just get directions with no negativity. Can some one please tell me why? I can’t understand this as these are young GC who were not even born during the troubles including older people as well. Look people still come to the north and all that bull shit is exposed. Please stop saying this stuff you only make yourself look as liars. I deliberately drove my GC mate right up to a Turkish soldier standing guard and all the soldier said was hello in Turkish and I asked him directions as I want to take my friend to his dads village. I made inquiries any Turkish soldier exposed to civilians must at all times keep their weapons right down and must never show aggression or combat behaviour. Their sole purpose is to guard the gate and that’s it so those who have this phobia I can assure you it’s all absolute bull shit. I can’t say that you get the same friendly response from all GC soldiers as I have tested them as well and 70% have pure hatred for anyone that they hear speak Turkish. I saw yesterday sheer hatred from one GC soldiers eyes and he looked at us with contempt like we were animals. Even though I am married to one of your people my kids are mixed race and if anyone harmed my wife or her family I would defend them to death. They are my family but I no longer agree with a solution to Cyprus apart from total separation because you have instilled hatred into the minds of your children and we can never coexist together as long as that continues and you all know your doing this on your side. You can deny it but we all know.
Mustiejodu
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 655
Joined: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:02 am

Re: BBF or BBC? "Indigenous" is the wrong word

Postby Sotos » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:15 pm

The heated is a result of your criminal actions against us which continue nearly non-stop for centuries. If you want the hate to end you can simply (a) end the crimes you are currently committing, (b) apologize for the crimes you have committed in the past. The hate will then disappear.

But instead of doing that you continue with more crimes. What you will get is more hate, and you will deserve it 100%.
User avatar
Sotos
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 11288
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 2:50 am

Re: BBF or BBC? "Indigenous" is the wrong word

Postby Maximus » Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:25 pm

Mustiejodu wrote:On the subject of murder. I would like to understand the Greek Cypriot way of thinking. I am on the Greek side as often as I am on the Turkish side as I am married to a British born Greek Cypriot. I do the same test on both sides and speak English when I inquire so the person I put this question thinks I am British Greek Cypriot on the South and British Turkish Cypriot in the north. When I inquire about going to the Turkish side to a GC 70% of the time I am told not to go as the Turkish soldiers kill you on that side but when I ask a TC I just get directions with no negativity. Can some one please tell me why? I can’t understand this as these are young GC who were not even born during the troubles including older people as well. Look people still come to the north and all that bull shit is exposed. Please stop saying this stuff you only make yourself look as liars. I deliberately drove my GC mate right up to a Turkish soldier standing guard and all the soldier said was hello in Turkish and I asked him directions as I want to take my friend to his dads village. I made inquiries any Turkish soldier exposed to civilians must at all times keep their weapons right down and must never show aggression or combat behaviour. Their sole purpose is to guard the gate and that’s it so those who have this phobia I can assure you it’s all absolute bull shit. I can’t say that you get the same friendly response from all GC soldiers as I have tested them as well and 70% have pure hatred for anyone that they hear speak Turkish. I saw yesterday sheer hatred from one GC soldiers eyes and he looked at us with contempt like we were animals. Even though I am married to one of your people my kids are mixed race and if anyone harmed my wife or her family I would defend them to death. They are my family but I no longer agree with a solution to Cyprus apart from total separation because you have instilled hatred into the minds of your children and we can never coexist together as long as that continues and you all know your doing this on your side. You can deny it but we all know.


What a load of BS..
Maximus
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 4995
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:23 pm

Next

Return to Cyprus Problem

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest