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Tensions increase in the East Mediterranean

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:26 pm

The Turkish Ship Oruc Reis has entered the Greek EEZ about 200 kilometers south of Kastelorizo.

The Greek Navy Ship Nikiforos Fokkas is shadowing the Oruc Resi.

Their are also reports of a Greek Submarine operating in the area as well.

Also in the area is an Israeli Heron UAVs who are also monitoring the Oruc Reis.

It seems the Turks are bating the Greek Navy. The nearest Turkish Navy Ship is 50 nm away.

The Hellenic Armed Forces are on high alert and are waiting to see if the ship starts drilling.

There could be repercussions here folks.
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Re: Tensions increase in the East Mediterranean

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:37 pm

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Re: Tensions increase in the East Mediterranean

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:51 pm

A second Greek Frigate is currently on its way to the area where the Oruc Reis is to join the Nikiforos Fokas nd another Greek Submarine.

The Israeli Airforce is also operating over the top with surveillance aircraft and UAVs and are working with the Hellenic Navy.

Also on the way is the Egyptian Navy.

Also in close proximity if the Turkish Navy. This could flare up into another IMIA.
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Re: Tensions increase in the East Mediterranean

Postby Kikapu » Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:56 pm

Paphitis wrote:The Turkish Ship Oruc Reis has entered the Greek EEZ about 200 kilometers south of Kastelorizo.

The Greek Navy Ship Nikiforos Fokkas is shadowing the Oruc Resi.

Their are also reports of a Greek Submarine operating in the area as well.

Also in the area is an Israeli Heron UAVs who are also monitoring the Oruc Reis.

It seems the Turks are bating the Greek Navy. The nearest Turkish Navy Ship is 50 nm away.

The Hellenic Armed Forces are on high alert and are waiting to see if the ship starts drilling.

There could be repercussions here folks.


It doesn’t seem to look like a drill ship to me. Perhaps a survey ship.

At this point it is not worth engaging Turkey militarily until if and when any Turkish drilling discovers any hydrocarbons and that they would try to bring it to the surface, which may be at the earliest 10 years from the time of discovery. At that point if legal and political actions do not produce any results, then military option should be brought to the table. At the moment the way I see it, Turkey is spending a lot of money looking for hydrocarbons for nothing since they won’t be allowed to keep it.
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Re: Tensions increase in the East Mediterranean

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:00 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The Turkish Ship Oruc Reis has entered the Greek EEZ about 200 kilometers south of Kastelorizo.

The Greek Navy Ship Nikiforos Fokkas is shadowing the Oruc Resi.

Their are also reports of a Greek Submarine operating in the area as well.

Also in the area is an Israeli Heron UAVs who are also monitoring the Oruc Reis.

It seems the Turks are bating the Greek Navy. The nearest Turkish Navy Ship is 50 nm away.

The Hellenic Armed Forces are on high alert and are waiting to see if the ship starts drilling.

There could be repercussions here folks.


It doesn’t seem to look like a drill ship to me. Perhaps a survey ship.

At this point it is not worth engaging Turkey militarily until if and when any Turkish drilling discovers any hydrocarbons and that they would try to bring it to the surface, which may be at the earliest 10 years from the time of discovery. At that point if legal political actions do not produce any results, then military option should be brought to the table. At the moment the way I see it, Turkey is spending a lot of money looking for hydrocarbons for nothing since they won’t be allowed to keep it.


It's some research vessel according to Marine Traffic. Could be a Survey Ship.

Either way it has no right to be doing Hydrographic Survey in the Greek EEZ.

Because it's an unarmed ship, according to International law, the Hellenic Navy can only intercept, identify and instruct it to leave. This is apparently what is occurring right now.

In Australia and Israel, special forces would have boarded the ship. Debatable whether that is legal. I'm not sure of the Hellenic Navy plan to board and commandeer the ship. Australian SAS did that to a Norwegian Ship and was taken to the ICC for piracy but the Australian Government told the ICC to get lost. They just ignored the ICC. Israel did the same when they boarded a Turkish Ship a few years ago and actually had to kill 9 people because they started to attack the soldiers with knives.

This to me looks like a Turkish prod to see what they can get away with.
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Re: Tensions increase in the East Mediterranean

Postby Maximus » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:42 pm

Turkey should just end the occupation of Cyprus and respect the sovereign integrity of the island. Just Leave the Cypriots alone in their democratic state.

Then offer to invest in her pipeline to transit all gas in the eastern med to the eu. Which would at this point probably be accepted.

By this point she could also gain another market on her doorstep to sell products to as well.

It’s a win win for everyone if she chose the path Of brotherly relations or guarantorship in the truest definition of the word with neighboring countries but I just don’t understand why turkey chooses to continue following the path of greatest resistance. She wants all control and to dictate to everyone but ends up with nothing.

Turkey has so much potential but she doesn't know how to execute properly.

This is the difference between success and failure. Peace and prosperity. ......A shit mentality.
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Re: Tensions increase in the East Mediterranean

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:44 pm

Paphitis,

How come when Israel does the same thing, in fact worse because they seized the Syrian Golan which has never belonged to them, by military force, expelled all the Syrians that opposed them and moved in thousands of Jewish settlers ...... YOU find that perfectly acceptable'? :?:

YOU stick two fingers up at International Court Judgements and find it amusing. You then apply unilateral directives to anyone that does not follow your directives ...... mostly by the introduction of unilateral sanctions? YOU also then threaten your ‘allies’ with more sanctions on them if they refuse to comply with your unilateral sanctions on others!

Even though the annexation of Crimea by Russia was at the request, by referendum, of almost the total population of Crimea after, as an autonomous State, they broke free from fascist Ukraine and again by referendum, YOU didn’t accept their right to self determination at all? In fact, you did then and still do consider it was all down to Russian aggression? :?

You seem to be a person of contradictions! :roll: I see the day coming when YOU get a very big kick up the arse!!!!! :roll: :lol: :lol:
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