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Postby cyprusgrump » Tue May 19, 2020 11:19 am

A very long but interesting article about the futility of Lockdown

Climbing out of the Lobster Pot

It concludes...

The other day Johan Giesecke of WHO responded to a journalist on Sky Australia asking what that country and New Zealand are going to do about their lockdowns by asking: “What will you do for the next thirty years?’9

That was a piercing question to which there is, as yet, no answer. We will never undo some of the damage caused by the lockdown. The lockdown was founded on guesswork and ignorance, and fuelled by the propaganda of fear. Now the only possible course of action is to end it – unless we want the living death of staying inside our lobster pots.

Bertrand Russell once said “those who fear life are already three parts dead”.10 At least the UK government is starting to understand that.

On May 17th, Andrew Marr challenged Michael Gove with the proposition that it was impossible to guarantee teachers would not catch the virus. In his reply, Gove homed in on the essential problem that cuts right to the heart of the flawed notion of the lockdown, which Ferguson20 alluded to but failed to understand the true logical implications of. Gove said:

None of us can guarantee that anyone will be entirely free [from a threat of catching the virus] unless they are perpetually imprisoned in their own home.

Michael Gove, Andrew Marr, May 17th 2020.


In that once sentence Gove hit the mark. It applies to almost every risk we face every day, exposing the lockdown ultimately as a futile and illogical device to deal with a disease in any sustainable way. Yet, incredibly, within in a few weeks a large proportion of the UK population seem to have come to believe that indefinite imprisonment is a better prospect than accepting that life involves any risk at all.

With their lockdowns, the governments of the UK and many other countries have created far bigger problems than the one they were trying to solve. These are psychological, practical, social and economic problems, each with potentially devastating consequences that have the power to make the virus look like a passing inconvenience by comparison. Let’s hope they and their advisers work those problems and don’t make things worse than they already have by doing any more guessing or listening to people guessing on their behalf.

Because if they fail in that endeavour then we’ll really know what a crisis looks like. At least we’ve learned one lesson: we can never, ever do anything like this again because our entire way of life could not withstand the shock.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue May 19, 2020 11:58 am

Just for those interested in hearing views outside the dominant narrative, I found the following two videos by Del Bigtree to be interesting. Both last over two hours.

An interview with medical doctor Dr Zach Bush. He appears well versed in the science around viruses and I don't have enough personal knowledge to confirm or disagree with what he says:
https://youtu.be/5RAtFBvKrVw

Interviews with a number of people, most interestingly with virus expert Prof. Dolores J. Cahill PhD about twenty minutes into the second hour who, among other things, is trying to see that those responsible for implementing the lockdown in Ireland (where she is located) are prosecuted for what she says is a criminal act, and she hopes to see the same happen elsewhere:
https://youtu.be/mtnaZyyxQtA
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Postby Tim Drayton » Tue May 19, 2020 12:01 pm

I also found the following interview with veteran investigative journalist Sam Husseini, in which he says we cannot discount the possibility that the virus originated from a lab, to be informative:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JbOvjtnPpE
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue May 19, 2020 12:19 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:A very long but interesting article about the futility of Lockdown

Climbing out of the Lobster Pot

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The only rational justification for the lockdown was to "flatten the curve", i.e. stop the health services from being overwhelmed by a surge of cases by slowing the rate of spread, but now that the health services everywhere are if anything underwhelmed, it's time to give ourselves a pat on the back for doing so well and go back to normal.

Sadly, like in the sorceror's apprentice, the lockdown has now taken on a life of its own and has become a self-justifying end in its own right pursued with irrational obsession.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Tue May 19, 2020 3:58 pm

Australia, supported by the EU has managed to instigate an international investigation into Chy-na's handling of Chy-na Virus and into the origins of this illness.

After all, COVID-17 is just the common fly. COVID-19 (Chy-na Virus) has elements of SARS and HIV. How did that happen is what I would like to know.

Australia now faces 80% tariffs on all imports. But the bastard Chy-nese stopped short on introducing any imports on Australian Steel and Iron Ore. The only country Chy-na can buy this stuff from is Brazil, and chy-na hates Brazil more than Australia.

It's good to see that the entire world is united in holding Chy-na accountable.

Well done to EU for making a very big call. It was a great move and a good thing that they did.

Australia 1 Chy-na! 0

And a message from the Ausralian people. Chy-na! can shove their trade up their Chy-na! Virus infested buttholes! :lol:

Absolutely disgusting country...
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue May 19, 2020 4:24 pm



...codes and death rates, the pharmaceutical industry, the CDC; who serves patients, the question asked?

...politics aside, educational.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Kikapu » Tue May 19, 2020 4:25 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:A very long but interesting article about the futility of Lockdown

Climbing out of the Lobster Pot



The only rational justification for the lockdown was to "flatten the curve", i.e. stop the health services from being overwhelmed by a surge of cases by slowing the rate of spread, but now that the health services everywhere are if anything underwhelmed, it's time to give ourselves a pat on the back for doing so well and go back to normal.

Sadly, like in the sorceror's apprentice, the lockdown has now taken on a life of its own and has become a self-justifying end in its own right pursued with irrational obsession.


If the Covid-19 is just as dangerous now as it has been the last 3 months, then I doubt life will return to pre- Covid-19. The biggest change to new life as being “normal”, is the “social distancing”, which is an individual “lockdown” all by itself, which will affect the economy and businesses in a very negative way until if and when a vaccine is found. Therefore, the lockdowns will continue even when no one is forced in a lockdown in their homes. If social distancing is to be ignored, then we will be back to square one with the forced lockdowns so not to overwhelm the health system.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue May 19, 2020 4:41 pm



...it does not end here. International pressure is building for accountability, with the credibility of the WHO at stake.
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