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Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:28 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I thought we were still on the subject of tax cuts when I made my comments regarding “Robin Hood”. :D

Yes, the rich and the cooperations got the lions share of the benefits from the tax cuts.

Even now, look at where the stock market is despite all the negative impacts on the economy from the coronavirus effect. The stock market was down as much as 35% just 2-3 months ago. Now, it is only 2-3% of being where it was back then despite record unemployment. :roll:



Just goes to show you that there is no relationship between the financial markets and the REAL economy! I believe the US/UK/EU have poured trillions into propping up the banks over the last few months? Banks that contribute very little to the real economy...... same old story ........ the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. :roll:


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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:52 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:John Kirby interviews Erin Marie Olszewski, a Nurse-turned-investigative journalist, who has spent the last few months on the frontlines of the coronavirus pandemic, on the inside in two radically different settings. Two hospitals. One private, the other public. One in Florida, the other in New York.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIDsKde ... e=youtu.be


...thanks Tim.


I would urge all decent human beings to watch this and judge for themeselves. Either she's an actor and it's all staged, or something very wrong indeed, amounting to murder, is going on in New York hospitals and this may be being replicated elsewhere.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:18 pm

There's a new conspiracy documentary on Netflix about the Covid. 2 guys from the Wuhan research centre, where Trump suspects it was engineered, were due to get on MH370 that miraculously disappeared...

Seems they were the guys behind the development of the new strain and intending to use it as a weapon, someone caught wind of their plans and purposefully downed the plane. Neither of them got on the flight though...

Well worth a watch! It's really interesting and called two Wongs don't make a flight... :oops:
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Kikapu » Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:00 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Well worth a watch! It's really interesting and called two Wongs don't make a flight... :oops:


Well, it’s a change from two Wongs not making it right! :lol:
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Londonrake » Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:14 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:There's a new conspiracy documentary on Netflix about the Covid. 2 guys from the Wuhan research centre, where Trump suspects it was engineered, were due to get on MH370 that miraculously disappeared...

Seems they were the guys behind the development of the new strain and intending to use it as a weapon, someone caught wind of their plans and purposefully downed the plane. Neither of them got on the flight though...

Well worth a watch! It's really interesting and called two Wongs don't make a flight... :oops:


Do you have a link?



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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby CrookedRiverGuy » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:27 pm

Londonrake wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:There's a new conspiracy documentary on Netflix about the Covid. 2 guys from the Wuhan research centre, where Trump suspects it was engineered, were due to get on MH370 that miraculously disappeared...

Seems they were the guys behind the development of the new strain and intending to use it as a weapon, someone caught wind of their plans and purposefully downed the plane. Neither of them got on the flight though...

Well worth a watch! It's really interesting and called two Wongs don't make a flight... :oops:


Do you have a link?



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is it this one? :wink:

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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:23 am

Robin Hood wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I thought we were still on the subject of tax cuts when I made my comments regarding “Robin Hood”. :D

Yes, the rich and the cooperations got the lions share of the benefits from the tax cuts.

Even now, look at where the stock market is despite all the negative impacts on the economy from the coronavirus effect. The stock market was down as much as 35% just 2-3 months ago. Now, it is only 2-3% of being where it was back then despite record unemployment. :roll:



Just goes to show you that there is no relationship between the financial markets and the REAL economy! I believe the US/UK/EU have poured trillions into propping up the banks over the last few months? Banks that contribute very little to the real economy...... same old story ........ the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. :roll:


Banks in America, Australia (can't speak for the EU as it might be different), are actually rock solid. they are the healthiest businesses which are unlikely to go down any time soon.

Businesses that need to be propped up are strategic industries like the Airlines. Yes, they are getting a lot of help to see them through because they are needed in the national interest once all the COVID stuff is out the way. Also construction, restaurants, hotels, bars, salons, fast food chains, take away, pubs and other tourism and hospitality areas.

Other areas doing it tough are landlords.

The banks haven't asked for any help and in Australia, if you call them, they will even pause all your mortgages for up to 6 months. I know our banks are highly profitable, and actually quite flush. They are the last businesses to go down along with our resources sector. They got too much money. Worst case scenario for them is that their profits will only reduce but no Bank has said they won't be making a profit. As a result, they are not being propped.

To be eligible for assistance, your revenues must drop by 30% or more and be in the red. Banks don't meet that criteria. Other businesses like Airlines, pubs, hotels, etc do.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:33 am

cyprusgrump wrote:There's a new conspiracy documentary on Netflix about the Covid. 2 guys from the Wuhan research centre, where Trump suspects it was engineered, were due to get on MH370 that miraculously disappeared...

Seems they were the guys behind the development of the new strain and intending to use it as a weapon, someone caught wind of their plans and purposefully downed the plane. Neither of them got on the flight though...

Well worth a watch! It's really interesting and called two Wongs don't make a flight... :oops:


A lot of people are saying it's Trump that believes this as if to paint him in a negative light as a conspiracy theorist. Any chance the media have to paint him in a negative light.

But he is not the only one. There are many international leaders who believe this could have been engineered by Chy-na because of the trade war they were losing and the HK Protests.

Australian PM is also a believer that Chy-na is behind that. They are just more cautious than Trump. This is why Australia and Germany spearheaded the calls for an investigation saying they must find out the actual origins of the Virus. They believe the Virus was engineered in a lab by Chy-na and there were even international collaborations with American and Australian academics from US and the University of Melbourne. This has been documented as fact. The collaborations were clearly done under the guise of research, something which isn't uncommon.

Trump isn't exactly all alone out on that limb.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:42 pm

Paphitis:
Banks in America, Australia (can't speak for the EU as it might be different), are actually rock solid. they are the healthiest businesses which are unlikely to go down any time soon.

I suggest you find out something about banking and the financial system before making such silly comments!

The largest credit institution in the World, Deutsche Bank, is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy as are most of the large banks. The system is collapsing as I told you it would many years ago. Your banks in Australia and those in America ..... in fact the whole system is in the same situation and they have been since before the 2008 financial crash.

Do you comprehend at all that Bank Assets are nothing but CREDIT ,fundamentally their assets are nearly ALL debt! Their liabilities are your and everyone else’s deposits. When debts turn bad there are two options:

Firstly reduce your liabilities ...... default on liabilities .... otherwise known as a ‘Bail-In’ ......... OR

Increase your assets ...... the Central Bank bails them out by buying up their non-performing asset backed debt , i.e. whatever was offered as collateral is then owned by the Central Bank and is sold on at auctions to the highest bidder ..... very often pennies/cents on the Pound/Dollar. YOU lose, not the banks.
Businesses that need to be propped up are strategic industries like the Airlines. Yes, they are getting a lot of help to see them through because they are needed in the national interest once all the COVID stuff is out the way. Also construction, restaurants, hotels, bars, salons, fast food chains, take away, pubs and other tourism and hospitality areas.

You cannot prop-up a business by making loans available if that business has a vastly reduced pool of customers or regulations make it non economically viable. I am afraid the Banks are giving you nothing ....... as usual they are creating more debt which has to be repaid .... or else!
Other areas doing it tough are landlords.

The banks haven't asked for any help and in Australia, if you call them, they will even pause all your mortgages for up to 6 months. I know our banks are highly profitable, and actually quite flush. They are the last businesses to go down along with our resources sector. They got too much money. Worst case scenario for them is that their profits will only reduce but no Bank has said they won't be making a profit. As a result, they are not being propped.

‘Pause’ being the operative word .... you could describe it as just a stay of execution!

Banks have very little money, basically just what is drawer cash and in the ATM’s ..... they hold credit which is not the same thing. Banks create money on demand as debt. You are an asset to your bank because you owe them large sums of money (I believe you said, around a a million AUD.) Try not repaying your debt, with interest, and you will see Banks are not very accommodating!
To be eligible for assistance, your revenues must drop by 30% or more and be in the red. Banks don't meet that criteria. Other businesses like Airlines, pubs, hotels, etc do.

Your naive belief in the integrity of the banking and financial system in general, is sadly misplaced. It is the Government that provides the assistance, not the banks.

I repeat what is said:
"........... there is no relationship between the (performance of) financial markets and the REAL economy" ............. and that includes the Banking sector.

Watch CNN,BBC, SKY, FOX, RT etc .... they all say the same thing! The markets are going up, whilst economies are collapsing. :|
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:08 am

Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis:
Banks in America, Australia (can't speak for the EU as it might be different), are actually rock solid. they are the healthiest businesses which are unlikely to go down any time soon.

I suggest you find out something about banking and the financial system before making such silly comments!

The largest credit institution in the World, Deutsche Bank, is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy as are most of the large banks. The system is collapsing as I told you it would many years ago. Your banks in Australia and those in America ..... in fact the whole system is in the same situation and they have been since before the 2008 financial crash.

Do you comprehend at all that Bank Assets are nothing but CREDIT ,fundamentally their assets are nearly ALL debt! Their liabilities are your and everyone else’s deposits. When debts turn bad there are two options:

Firstly reduce your liabilities ...... default on liabilities .... otherwise known as a ‘Bail-In’ ......... OR

Increase your assets ...... the Central Bank bails them out by buying up their non-performing asset backed debt , i.e. whatever was offered as collateral is then owned by the Central Bank and is sold on at auctions to the highest bidder ..... very often pennies/cents on the Pound/Dollar. YOU lose, not the banks.
Businesses that need to be propped up are strategic industries like the Airlines. Yes, they are getting a lot of help to see them through because they are needed in the national interest once all the COVID stuff is out the way. Also construction, restaurants, hotels, bars, salons, fast food chains, take away, pubs and other tourism and hospitality areas.

You cannot prop-up a business by making loans available if that business has a vastly reduced pool of customers or regulations make it non economically viable. I am afraid the Banks are giving you nothing ....... as usual they are creating more debt which has to be repaid .... or else!
Other areas doing it tough are landlords.

The banks haven't asked for any help and in Australia, if you call them, they will even pause all your mortgages for up to 6 months. I know our banks are highly profitable, and actually quite flush. They are the last businesses to go down along with our resources sector. They got too much money. Worst case scenario for them is that their profits will only reduce but no Bank has said they won't be making a profit. As a result, they are not being propped.

‘Pause’ being the operative word .... you could describe it as just a stay of execution!

Banks have very little money, basically just what is drawer cash and in the ATM’s ..... they hold credit which is not the same thing. Banks create money on demand as debt. You are an asset to your bank because you owe them large sums of money (I believe you said, around a a million AUD.) Try not repaying your debt, with interest, and you will see Banks are not very accommodating!
To be eligible for assistance, your revenues must drop by 30% or more and be in the red. Banks don't meet that criteria. Other businesses like Airlines, pubs, hotels, etc do.

Your naive belief in the integrity of the banking and financial system in general, is sadly misplaced. It is the Government that provides the assistance, not the banks.

I repeat what is said:
"........... there is no relationship between the (performance of) financial markets and the REAL economy" ............. and that includes the Banking sector.

Watch CNN,BBC, SKY, FOX, RT etc .... they all say the same thing! The markets are going up, whilst economies are collapsing. :|


I know how the Banking system works and have been dealing with them for decades. They have supported me throughout my life and before that supported my old man. Our family wouldn't be in the position it is without them.

You said, the Banks are being funded by the Government. They are not supported by the Government at all.

They are proper stand alone businesses, and the big 4 in Australia are actually global now. These are the last businesses to go down. If they do go down, then guaranteed every other businesses has gone down as well, and that is financial Armageddon.

You will find that any Government that has provided financial support to business and workers is under the State of Emergency provisions designed to keep businesses afloat and people in jobs during the lock-downs. The assistance won't go on for ever and only temporary to support the community. The actual assistance Australians have received from their Government has actually been sensational. And when our Government was called to action and as our PM announced all the economic stimulus measures, he also called on all banks to pause all mortgages if the mortgage holder lost their job or isn't working because of the lock down. Banks came out the next day and said they would pause all mortgages to any individual, family or business experiencing any hardship for up to 6 months, so can't ask for more than that.
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