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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:37 pm

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Paphitis wrote:Here is something for you all.

Straight from a medical virologist who works for the Royal Adelaide Hospital. According to him, about 85% of the population are going to get Chy-na Virus. According to him, this is the only way science knows we can build an immunity to it.

So if it comes in waves, then according to him, it's not a bad thing.

What they are worried about is we all getting it at the same time. Hence why we have restrictions.

Now that we know we are nowhere near inundating our Health Systems, then it's time to live our lives normally. Go to work, travel and just do all the normal things we use to.


There was an interview in Sunday’s Cyprus Mail with epidemiologist Petros Karayiannis, who was a leading member of the scientific committee advising the government on the coronavirus crisis.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/06/10/epid ... -his-life/

Note the following question and answer:

What if we’d somehow managed to shield the vulnerable groups? Could we have avoided the lockdown?
“Yes, we could have,” he replies candidly.


The lockdown fundamentalists here berate me for saying there was no need for the lockdown and all that was needed was to protect the vulnerable. Well, the Cyprus government’s leading advisor on the coronavirus vindicates what I have said.

The expert also says:

I think if there is a second wave it might be worse, because we don’t have sufficient herd immunity.


There you have it. Lock down as many times as you like but each time you reopen the virus will start spreading again until such time as you have immunity in the population. This is a law of nature and there is no way round it. Lockdowns are pointless apart from “flattening the curve” so that health facilities do not become overwhelmed.

However, it is noted in the same article:

“You should see the messages I get,” he adds with a rather grim laugh, messages from Facebook friends and anxious bystanders: “Come and see what’s happening at the Limassol seafront right now,” they write in alarm – or at the Limassol marina, or Finikoudes. One can only dread what might happen when tourists are added to the mix.


Somehow, the message does not get home. The more healthy under-50’s mingle, such as on the beach in Limassol, and the risk posed by the virus to these people is so negligible as to be virtually non-existent, the quicker immunity will build up and the virus will then be history.


yeh same think happened in Australia, with police moving people from parks and beaches. they weren't near anyone so there was no chance of any bigs being transmitted from one person to person.

In fact, the beach and in the sun was probably one of the healthiest places to be at, with getting Vitamin D and so forth. In fact, I have heard experts say that lock down actually weakens the immune system. people become less fit as well from being sedatory.

People should mind their own business.

I have no doubt Petros Karayiannis is correct. The lock down was completely unnecessary for both Australia and Cyprus. In fact, Cyprus went way off the deep end. I mean seriously. Fancy locking the entire population in their houses and getting permission to go shopping. Is this the new Orwellian State or what?

I just can't believe some people can be so stupid to want so much Government Control. If people feel unsafe, stay at home. And protect the vulnerable. But blanket restrictions on under 50s is just insane. I can understand if the health system is inundated, but our medical experts are saying we have never even come close to a crisis.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:39 pm

erolz66 wrote:
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erolz66 wrote:Australia population - 25 million

85% infection 0.37% IFR (from paphitis post above)

Means 78,625 dead Australians from Covid-19


We barely have had 7000 cases of Chy-na Virus. As of today, we have less than 400 active cases with 2 people in ICU. The whole situation is a massive laugh considering all the hysteric hyperbole.

Now, the reality is finally sinking in that Australia will have to keep its borders closed forever to countries like the USA, Chy-na, Italy, Spain, UK, Germany, Switzerland, etc etc. The list is endless.

Did they think this through? Well, as with anything, people are quick to react, but they do that without engaging their brains sometimes.

So tell me, for how long can Australia keep its borders closed to the US, UK and other EU countries.

As for Chy-na, they can keep that border shut forever. That country can go to hell.


Those are just the numbers. Your numbers. If 85% of pop will get it and if IFR is 0.37% that means 78k Australian deaths from it. It is like you are railing against maths.


Got to die of something.

This notion that we must suspend life because 78,000 people will die because of some virus is nonsensical especially when the majority of those people were already on borrowed time and would have died even from the common cold is insane.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:59 pm

Paphitis wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
erolz66 wrote:Australia population - 25 million

85% infection 0.37% IFR (from paphitis post above)

Means 78,625 dead Australians from Covid-19


We barely have had 7000 cases of Chy-na Virus. As of today, we have less than 400 active cases with 2 people in ICU. The whole situation is a massive laugh considering all the hysteric hyperbole.

Now, the reality is finally sinking in that Australia will have to keep its borders closed forever to countries like the USA, Chy-na, Italy, Spain, UK, Germany, Switzerland, etc etc. The list is endless.

Did they think this through? Well, as with anything, people are quick to react, but they do that without engaging their brains sometimes.

So tell me, for how long can Australia keep its borders closed to the US, UK and other EU countries.

As for Chy-na, they can keep that border shut forever. That country can go to hell.


Those are just the numbers. Your numbers. If 85% of pop will get it and if IFR is 0.37% that means 78k Australian deaths from it. It is like you are railing against maths.


Got to die of something.

This notion that we must suspend life because 78,000 people will die because of some virus is nonsensical especially when the majority of those people were already on borrowed time and would have died even from the common cold is insane.


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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:32 pm



...this guy is the expert other experts will tell you is expert.

worth watching.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:28 am

An interview with former Dutch Scientist Willem Engel, who is part of a group that is suing the Dutch state on account of the lockdown.

In Dutch with English subtitles.

https://youtu.be/PiwhYpvvNck
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:02 am

Now with the media in Australia harping on and on about the so called second wave to hit us, Australian Medical professionals are actually laughing saying Australia never even had a first wave.

But people are gullible and stupid!

In fact a lot of them are saying, what are we going to do now moving forward. Keep our borders closed forever?

From the bottom of my heart, I would like to thank The Republic of Cyprus for granting me and my family full citizenship so Australian Authorities can't stop me at the border if I use that passport.

I would also like to thank the USA for also granting me and my family permanent residency so I can also get use that to get out of Australia by saying I am now a US permanent resident...

Thank Cyprus. Thank You Trumpland!
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:57 am

Paphitis wrote:But people are gullible and stupid!


But never you. Paphitian exceptionalism.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:02 am

And back to the numbers

Sweden (population 10.23 million) today passed the Netherlands (population 17.28 million) in confirmed positives to date.

https://bchurchill.github.io/covidtrend ... ingtime=33
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Cap » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:34 pm

We know the numbers aren't adding up.
After all this time people are still objecting...
Why??



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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:37 pm

Cap wrote:We know the numbers aren't adding up.
After all this time people are still objecing...



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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Excellent! :wink:
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