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[Londonrake]

I have a very cheap Ocean property for sale here in Switzerland.

Shut up and take my money!

Sold. I will give you the address after the funds are in my account!

I’d have been very interested but only just invested heavily in helping some guy with his problem of getting a large amount of US$ out of Nigeria.

[Kikapu]

I have a very cheap Ocean property for sale here in Switzerland.

Shut up and take my money!

Sold. I will give you the address after the funds are in my account!

I’d have been very interested but only just invested heavily in helping some guy with his problem of getting a large amount of US$ out of Nigeria.

Too bad. You would have been very happy with an Ocean front property in Switzerland.

I hate to say this, but you got conned with that Nigerian deal thing, but I could be wrong!

[cyprusgrump]

Yes indeed, especially the author Beda M Stadler himself!

The virus has not disappeared in the summer as he claims is happening, and since June 10th when he first wrote the article, the daily case numbers more than doubled globally.

Oh so Summer occurs at the same time the world over now does it Kiks...?

Anyhooo.... looks like you are still some way off from your 50% to 100% increase prediction... Still, you have to Friday, it might turn out okay for you...

Summer comes after Spring to which what the author of the article you had posted was making reference to, which are the places with the greatest cases that are being recorded now since the article was written.

We will discuss my predictions and your concerns on the 50%-100% issues on August 1st. You may well be a little disappointed with the results!

You obviously didn't read it (or perhaps just failed to comprehend the detail...?)...

The original article was published in the Swiss magazine Weltwoche (World Week) on June 10th. The author, Beda M Stadler is the former director of the Institute for Immunology at the University of Bern, a biologist and professor emeritus. Stadler is an important medical professional in Switzerland, he also likes to use provoking language, which should not deter you from the extremely important points he makes.

This article is about Switzerland and it does not suggest that the situation is exactly the same globally. I am advocating for local measures according to local situations. And I advocate for looking at real data rather than abstract models. I also suggest to read to the end, because Stadler makes crucial points about testing for Sars-CoV-2.

[Kikapu]

Yes indeed, especially the author Beda M Stadler himself!

The virus has not disappeared in the summer as he claims is happening, and since June 10th when he first wrote the article, the daily case numbers more than doubled globally.

Oh so Summer occurs at the same time the world over now does it Kiks...?

Anyhooo.... looks like you are still some way off from your 50% to 100% increase prediction... Still, you have to Friday, it might turn out okay for you...

Summer comes after Spring to which what the author of the article you had posted was making reference to, which are the places with the greatest cases that are being recorded now since the article was written.

We will discuss my predictions and your concerns on the 50%-100% issues on August 1st. You may well be a little disappointed with the results!

You obviously didn't read it (or perhaps just failed to comprehend the detail...?)...

The original article was published in the Swiss magazine Weltwoche (World Week) on June 10th. The author, Beda M Stadler is the former director of the Institute for Immunology at the University of Bern, a biologist and professor emeritus. Stadler is an important medical professional in Switzerland, he also likes to use provoking language, which should not deter you from the extremely important points he makes.

This article is about Switzerland and it does not suggest that the situation is exactly the same globally. I am advocating for local measures according to local situations. And I advocate for looking at real data rather than abstract models. I also suggest to read to the end, because Stadler makes crucial points about testing for Sars-CoV-2.

Actually I did read the article and as far as I am concerned, also comprehended it. Although the article was meant to reflect Switzerland, it went beyond with this statement, which is what I was commenting on. I did post this statement in my original post. Perhaps you missed it.

So: Sars-Cov-2 isn’t all that new, but merely a seasonal cold virus that mutated and disappears in summer, as all cold viruses do — which is what we’re observing globally right now.

[cyprusgrump]

As I said before, not sure why nobody posts the Gold Standard ONS Weekly Death Statistics on here any more so I guess it is down to me...

Main points
The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 17 July 2020 (Week 29) was 8,823, this was 133 deaths more than Week 28.

In Week 29, the number of deaths registered was 3.0% below the five-year average (270 deaths fewer), this is the fifth consecutive week that deaths have been below the five-year average; the number of deaths in care homes, hospitals and other communal establishments was also fewer than the five-year average, while the number of deaths in private homes was 766 higher than the five-year average.

Of the deaths registered in Week 29, 295 mentioned "novel coronavirus (COVID-19)", the lowest number of deaths involving COVID-19 in the last 17 weeks and a 19.4% decrease compared with Week 28 (366 deaths), accounting for 3.3% of all deaths in England and Wales.

In Week 29, the proportion of deaths occurring in care homes increased to 20.2%, while deaths involving COVID-19 as a percentage of all deaths in care homes decreased to 5.1%.

The number of deaths involving COVID-19 decreased or remained the same across all English regions, except for the South East and South West. Seven of the nine regions had fewer overall deaths than the five-year average.

In Wales, the total number of deaths was below the five-year average (seven deaths fewer) for Week 29, while the number of deaths involving COVID-19 decreased to 11 deaths registered (from 22 deaths in Week 28).

Of all deaths involving COVID-19 registered up to Week 29, 63.4% occurred in hospital with the remainder mainly occurring in care homes (29.7%), private homes (4.7%) and hospices (1.4%).

The number of deaths registered in the UK in the week ending 17 July 2020 (Week 29) was 10,080, which was fewer than the five-year average (by 239 deaths); of the deaths registered in the UK in Week 29, 303 deaths involved COVID-19.

[cyprusgrump]

Sweden: The One Chart That Matters

While the Covid-19 epidemic continues to drag on in the United States, it’s largely over in Sweden where fatalities have dropped to no more than 2 deaths per day for the last week.

Sweden has been harshly criticized in the media for not imposing draconian lockdowns like the United States and the other European countries. Instead, Sweden implemented a policy that was both conventional and sensible. They recommended that people maintain a safe distance between each other and they banned gatherings of 50 people or more. They also asked their elderly citizens to isolate themselves and to avoid interacting with other people as much as possible. Other than that, Swedes were encouraged to work, exercise and get on with their lives as they would normally even though the world was still in the throes of a global pandemic.

The secret of Sweden’s success is that its experts settled on a strategy that was realistic, sustainable and science-based. The intention was never to “fight” the virus which is among the most contagious infections in the last century, but to protect the old and vulnerable while allowing the young, low-risk people to circulate, contract the virus, and develop the antibodies they’d need to fight similar pathogens in the future. It’s clear now that that was the best approach. And while Sweden could still experience sporadic outbreaks that might kill another 2 to 300 people, any recurrence of the infection in the Fall or Winter will not be a dreaded “Second Wave”, but a much weaker flu-like event that will not overwhelm the public health system or kill thousands of people.

[cyprusgrump]

Don’t fall for the virus ‘second wave’ narrative

THE second wave is here! In Catalonia in Spain and in a few states in the southern United States the doomsayers have found what they were looking for: proof that all this continued social distancing and now enforced mask-wearing is worth it. The narrative has been sealed by swift and decisive UK government action to quarantine all entering from Spain, leaving anyone on holiday facing an unexpected 14-day isolation and those with breaks booked the prospect of having to cancel without refund.

Spain does not agree with the UK’s assessment. ‘Spain is safe, it is safe for Spaniards, it is safe for tourists,’ Foreign Minister Arancha Gonzalez Laya said on Sunday.

This isn’t just wishful thinking. While there has in the past month been a surge in cases, mainly in Catalonia, there has been no corresponding surge in deaths nor in serious cases, which remain notably flat, indicating a surge so far either among the low risk or in the number of tests only.

[cyprusgrump]

Forget the 1st quarter as it means nothing. Let’s look at the 2nd quarter when it comes out and let’s see if it followed the first quarter’s trend, especially when her neighbouring countries are now keeping their borders closed with Sweden because of high rate of new cases.

If Sweden rates their economy over number of deaths, especially their elderly, I will have to see them in a different light from here on. Yes, let the old die so that we can spend our inheritance a little earlier at the local pubs and restaurants.

Thanks grandma and grandpa. Cheers!

Sweden had one of the most relaxed COVID-19 lockdowns in the world. There's growing evidence that it helped it weather 2020's economic storm better than anywhere else.

Unlike most European countries, Sweden didn’t impose strict lockdown measures. Now it’s reaping the rewards — economically speaking, at least. A report from Capital Economics published on Tuesday found that the Swedish economy was the least harmed in Europe, describing it as the “best of a bad bunch.”

Though Sweden was not immune to the pandemic’s economic impact, it was the only major economy to grow in the first quarter of the year, the report noted….

“The Swedish economy has weathered Covid well, thanks in part to the government’s light-touch lockdown, and our forecast of a 1.5% drop in GDP this year is well above consensus,” the economists Andrew Kenningham, David Oxley, and Melanie Debono wrote.

[Kikapu]

Forget the 1st quarter as it means nothing. Let’s look at the 2nd quarter when it comes out and let’s see if it followed the first quarter’s trend, especially when her neighbouring countries are now keeping their borders closed with Sweden because of high rate of new cases.

If Sweden rates their economy over number of deaths, especially their elderly, I will have to see them in a different light from here on. Yes, let the old die so that we can spend our inheritance a little earlier at the local pubs and restaurants.

Thanks grandma and grandpa. Cheers!

Sweden had one of the most relaxed COVID-19 lockdowns in the world. There's growing evidence that it helped it weather 2020's economic storm better than anywhere else.

Unlike most European countries, Sweden didn’t impose strict lockdown measures. Now it’s reaping the rewards — economically speaking, at least. A report from Capital Economics published on Tuesday found that the Swedish economy was the least harmed in Europe, describing it as the “best of a bad bunch.”

Though Sweden was not immune to the pandemic’s economic impact, it was the only major economy to grow in the first quarter of the year, the report noted….

“The Swedish economy has weathered Covid well, thanks in part to the government’s light-touch lockdown, and our forecast of a 1.5% drop in GDP this year is well above consensus,” the economists Andrew Kenningham, David Oxley, and Melanie Debono wrote.

YAWN!

There’s nothing there there in the above article for the 2nd quarter other than wishful thinking, so let’s repeat the 1st quarter again for some browny points.

[Kikapu]

Yes indeed, especially the author Beda M Stadler himself!

The virus has not disappeared in the summer as he claims is happening, and since June 10th when he first wrote the article, the daily case numbers more than doubled globally.

Oh so Summer occurs at the same time the world over now does it Kiks...?

Anyhooo.... looks like you are still some way off from your 50% to 100% increase prediction... Still, you have to Friday, it might turn out okay for you...

Summer comes after Spring to which what the author of the article you had posted was making reference to, which are the places with the greatest cases that are being recorded now since the article was written.

We will discuss my predictions and your concerns on the 50%-100% issues on August 1st. You may well be a little disappointed with the results!

You obviously didn't read it (or perhaps just failed to comprehend the detail...?)...

The original article was published in the Swiss magazine Weltwoche (World Week) on June 10th. The author, Beda M Stadler is the former director of the Institute for Immunology at the University of Bern, a biologist and professor emeritus. Stadler is an important medical professional in Switzerland, he also likes to use provoking language, which should not deter you from the extremely important points he makes.

This article is about Switzerland and it does not suggest that the situation is exactly the same globally. I am advocating for local measures according to local situations. And I advocate for looking at real data rather than abstract models. I also suggest to read to the end, because Stadler makes crucial points about testing for Sars-CoV-2.

By the way, on June 10th Switzerland had 23 new cases and today July 29th at 30°C sunny summer weather, we have almost 200 new cases, almost 1,000% increase. What happened to the statement by the author that the virus would disappear in the summer?