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[erolz66]

We can just jump on a direct Air NZ flight there. If this continues, I think we will go their for a couple of weeks and go skiing. Winter is the time to go to New Zealand.

No you can not , currently

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/the-conve ... WMS2ITEYQ/

From Adelaide, yes I can.

Can book a flight for this Monday.

https://flightbookings.airnewzealand.co ... -741855592

Such a twat. Do you know what the word CURRENTLY means ? When you said on 30th June 2021 "We can just jump on a direct Air NZ flight there." you were just plain wrong / talking bollocks (as per ususal). Even today you can NOT 'just jump on a flight to NZ'. Even from Monday the 5th you can not 'just jump on a flight to NZ', you will also need a PCR test 72 hours before your flight. Such a twat.

[Paphitis]

We can just jump on a direct Air NZ flight there. If this continues, I think we will go their for a couple of weeks and go skiing. Winter is the time to go to New Zealand.

No you can not , currently

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/the-conve ... WMS2ITEYQ/

From Adelaide, yes I can.

Can book a flight for this Monday.

https://flightbookings.airnewzealand.co ... -741855592

Such a twat. Do you know what the word CURRENTLY means ? When you said on 30th June 2021 "We can just jump on a direct Air NZ flight there." you were just plain wrong / talking bollocks (as per ususal). Even today you can NOT 'just jump on a flight to NZ'. Even from Monday the 5th you can not 'just jump on a flight to NZ', you will also need a PCR test 72 hours before your flight. Such a twat.

We have always been able to get on a flight to NZ.

What you are referring to was a 48 hour suspension just to get ahead of contact tracing. And the lockdowns I talk about are hardly a lock down. Most are for 3 days. Except for Sydney lock down which is for 14 days. Sydney has by far more reason to be worried.

The reason for the 48 hour suspension and the 3 day lockdowns more broadly, which is less than the required incubation time, is because our covid community transmission (which excludes medi quarantine hotels) is due to a break out in the Tanami Mine and also due to a Flight Attendent testing positive through an aiport testing facility after she completed 5 sectors spanning 5 major Australian cities. Resulting in 3 day lock downs in those cities excepot for Sydney which is 14 days covering the incubation period.

as a result, the policy is, 3 day lockdowns, and quarantine orders for the populations at the exposure sites, allowing authorities to track down the hundreds of passengers on those domestic flights, and mining charters, track down people that went through the airports at certain times when these cases went through, and the actual mine, tracking their movements such as when they go to a take away and getting people tested who have been in the same places, mapping out all their movements and getting in contact with potentially thousands more close contacts.

It isn't a small task. But it's what they have always been doing since the beginning of COVID. It's what they have been doing in NZ as well.

When there is community transmission, they take these measures, cast a wide net, get some tens of thousands of people in quarantine and test them.

The 3 days and 48 hours is just a jump start. And its been effective in the past.

I can book flights right now on any flight from Monday. Who in their right mind books a flight immediately to NZ and just jumps on a flight the next day for a vacation? Lots of logistics to take care of for a start such as car hire and accommodation and also sorting out activities and places to visit and booking things like ski resorts etc and etc. We can book a flight. I can book one right now and travel to NZ from Monday. Even that is too hard for us right now. Normally, I would book a couple of months ahead and make sure I have approved leave as well. Can book one for a weeks time, 2 weeks time or next month. It isn't hard just getting on a plane. Travelling to NZ or vice versa to Australia is easy. Travelling anywhere else is difficult due to the restrictions.

But travelling anywhere else isn't impossible. Well it isn't entirely impossible. They can't actually stop someone from travelling. You will be stopped at passport control. but if you produce a foreign passport or a permanent residency for another country (I have a foreign passport for Cyprus and also perminant residency to the US), they can't stop you. However, they will warn you. And then the difficulty will be trying to get back into Australia. Very difficult. Might not be able to get back in a reasonable time frame regardless of the fact you are an Australian Citizen. There are many people who have left Australia as permanent residents or citizens and can't get back in.

If for instance Get Real wanted to come to Australia, even with his Australian Passport and citizenship, it would be extremely hard for him to do so. It's much much easier for a NZ citizen to come to Australia than it is for Get Real in Cyprus atm.

OK TWAT!

[Paphitis]

We can just jump on a direct Air NZ flight there. If this continues, I think we will go their for a couple of weeks and go skiing. Winter is the time to go to New Zealand.

No you can not , currently

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/the-conve ... WMS2ITEYQ/

From Adelaide, yes I can.

Can book a flight for this Monday.

https://flightbookings.airnewzealand.co ... -741855592

Such a twat. Do you know what the word CURRENTLY means ? When you said on 30th June 2021 "We can just jump on a direct Air NZ flight there." you were just plain wrong / talking bollocks (as per ususal). Even today you can NOT 'just jump on a flight to NZ'. Even from Monday the 5th you can not 'just jump on a flight to NZ', you will also need a PCR test 72 hours before your flight. Such a twat.

Australian states are even restricting travel between them, and these restrictions are far more difficult to circumvent than NZ. An example- Adelaide has restricted all non essential travel to and from NSW (Sysdney), to and from Queensland (Brisbane), to and from Northern Territory, to and from western Australia (Perth). we can travel to Melbourne, and Tasmania and vice versa. Queensland, Western Australia, Northern Territory, Australian capital Territory, Tasmania, NSW and Victoria have similar restrictions with some minor variatioin bewteen state to state but not much.

That prevents travel bewteen the states for any non essential purpose - including vacations and R&R. The chances of getting on a plane whilst all that is in place is zilch.

Unless of course you are in the essential worker category. essential workers are:

Any government official or politician
Any member of The Australian Defence Forces, Border Control or Customs
Any member of law enforcement
Pretty much all Government Department staff
Emergency services workers
Diplomats
Judiciary and court staff
Foreign dignitaries and diplomats/politicians and governments
Medical staff - doctors, nurses, specialists
miners
Petroleum Industry
Flight Crews
and any company or business that applies for an exception - usually big business are granted them for their executives if they have a valid reason.
Sports people and teams under some strict controls (Australian Open, Olympics, Cricket, Rugby, Australian football)
Hollywood who are shooting their films in Australia atm - yes these snotty nosed LA celebs come and go as they please
And there might be a few others. Always the money talks and the bullshit walks obviously. So the system isn't even handed. Always rules for some and a different set of rules for people with deep pockets. If you own a fish and chips shop or sell kebabs it's tough titties. But if you are an executive of a big enterprise or multinational, you can do what you want.

That's what they do down here in Australia and NZ. And the effort is very much coordinated between Australia and NZ as if they are 2 states of the same country which is practically what they are. new Zealanders won't admit it, but NZ is virtually an Australian dependancy vassal state. They get pissed off when you tell them, but deep down thy know it's true.

[Paphitis]

Finally!

They just admitted that there is a far greater chance of dieing from the vaccine if you are young than it is from getting Covid.

In other words, Covid is less dangerous than the vaccine.

Hence vaccines are banned for under 16s.

Probably should be banned fir under 35s.

This from the Queensland Chief Medical Officer.

Truth is coming out.

Clear admission at a Government presser that young people are better off getting Covid than to be vaccinated.

Australian Medical Association seem to agree, and so too our Big Pharma watchdog which refuses to grant any of the vaccines a licence fir administration to children.

[erolz66]

Stop being a twat. The idea that it was known with any degree of certainty that its safer to not vaccinate children but to instead let them get infected and that this has finally been 'admitted' is beyond stupid. Even now we do not know with certainty this is the case. It might be or it may not be.

Your sheer stupidity and inability to comprehend is actually dangerous.

[Paphitis]

Stop being a twat. The idea that it was known with any degree of certainty that its safer to not vaccinate children but to instead let them get infected and that this has finally been 'admitted' is beyond stupid. Even now we do not know with certainty this is the case. It might be or it may not be.

Your sheer stupidity and inability to comprehend is actually dangerous.

You take it up with Dr Young - Queensland Chief Medical Officer and the Australian Government who have said no one under the age of 16 will be getting a vaccine of ANY sort.

And which is supported by the AMA.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-30/ ... /100256022

[erolz66]

Stop being a twat. The idea that it was known with any degree of certainty that its safer to not vaccinate children but to instead let them get infected and that this has finally been 'admitted' is beyond stupid. Even now we do not know with certainty this is the case. It might be or it may not be.

Your sheer stupidity and inability to comprehend is actually dangerous.

You take it up with Dr Young - Queensland Chief Medical Officer and the Australian Government who have said no one under the age of 16 will be getting a vaccine of ANY sort.

And which is supported by the AMA.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-30/ ... /100256022

There is little point in you citing articles when you are too stupid to comprehend them and too arrogant to realise you are too stupid to comprehend them.

[Paphitis]

Stop being a twat. The idea that it was known with any degree of certainty that its safer to not vaccinate children but to instead let them get infected and that this has finally been 'admitted' is beyond stupid. Even now we do not know with certainty this is the case. It might be or it may not be.

Your sheer stupidity and inability to comprehend is actually dangerous.

You take it up with Dr Young - Queensland Chief Medical Officer and the Australian Government who have said no one under the age of 16 will be getting a vaccine of ANY sort.

And which is supported by the AMA.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-30/ ... /100256022

There is little point in you citing articles when you are too stupid to comprehend them and too arrogant to realise you are too stupid to comprehend them.

I saw the video of the presser.

Because living in Australua, we have been bombarded with all these pres conferences over the last 2 days.

She clearly said after asked why children will not be vaccinated and she clearly said that no child under the age of 16 will receive any vaccination of any kind - including Pfizer.

She also said that all the medical experts agree that the vaccines (as in all of them) are more dangerous to young Australians than Covid.

She also said, we have had a number of deaths from the 7 million administered doses and we have had zero community deaths from Covid this year.

And she is a medically qualified Doctor to boot.

And it’s definitely true. Morrison has stated that no one under the age of 16 will be vaccinated with AZ, Pfizer or Astra Zeneca. And neither will the AMA or Big Pharma watchdog approve of it either.

Only 20 million people out of 26 million people are allowed a vaccination. That’s 40 million doses. I presume the 6 million who won’t are our under 16 population.

[erolz66]

You said stuff like 'finally admitted', 'finally truth coming out' and 'Covid is less dangerous than the vaccine' and 'Probably should be banned fir under 35s'.

You are a twat. You are a dangerous twat. There was no 'conspiracy' here. No 'admitting' of anything. All there is is increasing experience and data and understanding of the relative risk to relative groups for the different vaccines currently licensed for emergency use and different medical experts with different opinions. This is an ongoing process.

You ignorance and your arrogance are, imho, far more dangerous than either covid or vaccines against covid for any age group.

[Paphitis]

You said stuff like 'finally admitted', 'finally truth coming out' and 'Covid is less dangerous than the vaccine' and 'Probably should be banned fir under 35s'.

You are a twat. You are a dangerous twat. There was no 'conspiracy' here. No 'admitting' of anything. All there is is increasing experience and data and understanding of the relative risk to relative groups, which is an ongoing process and different medical experts with different opinions.

You ignorance and your arrogance are, imho, far more dangerous than either covid or vaccines against covid for any age group.

Yes they finally came out and said it. At least the one in Queensland did and she is attributing it to all the health advice they have received from health professionals and experts.

Federal Government had not come clean yet but has said no child will be vaccinated. Same with the other states. They haven’t said why.

Queensland has been the only one to just come out and say it after some pesky journo kept asking why children are not being vaccinated.

I give her credit for that because all we get from the other states is a lot of ducking and weaving and not answering the same question.

The South Australian Chief Health Officer was really made a fool of today by a rather very clever journalist named Chris Kenny. She just didn’t answer the question. Then she said that she has had little sleep. Awe diddums!

Scott Morrison has also stated no child will be getting it and that decision is based on expert advice and it applies to all vaccines. He did not admit that the vaccines are more dangerous. He avoids that question. But it’s clearly the reason why the decision was made because if it wasn’t the case, you would vaccinate the entire population.