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Re: Norway nominated Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize

Postby erolz66 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:15 pm

All I am hearing paphitis is

Baahhaa, baahaaa, baahaaa.
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Re: Norway nominated Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:25 pm

erolz66 wrote:All I am hearing paphitis is

Baahhaa, baahaaa, baahaaa.


You made the claim Britain is breaking international law.

All Britain is doing is keeping Hard BREXIT on the table and it does that to look after it's own interests and protect its people from being manipulated and shafted by the EU. The EU if it wants to, can avoid hard BREXIT altogether.

Britain is also preferring to avoid it.

To avoid it, there has to be cooperation from both sides. What we saw from the EU side was anything but civil and respectful cooperation. The EU went for Britain's throat, and because of that the people of Britain condemned the EU at the ballot box.
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Re: Norway nominated Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize

Postby erolz66 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:30 pm

Paphitis wrote:
erolz66 wrote:All I am hearing paphitis is

Baahhaa, baahaaa, baahaaa.


You made the claim Britain is breaking international law.


I stated the fact that Johnson's government tabled a bill yesterday that if passed would, with intent, breaks international law as the NI Minster himself confirmed to the house of commons. All you have done to date is deny this fact and go baahhhaaa, baaahaaa, baaahhaaaa over and over again.
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Re: Norway nominated Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:35 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
erolz66 wrote:All I am hearing paphitis is

Baahhaa, baahaaa, baahaaa.


You made the claim Britain is breaking international law.


I stated the fact that Johnson's government tabled a bill yesterday that if passed would, with intent, breaks international law as the NI Minster himself confirmed to the house of commons. All you have done to date is deny this fact and go baahhhaaa, baaahaaa, baaahhaaaa over and over again.


That is what the EU are claiming.

It doesn't mean Britain is breaking international law.

EU isn't even a country. No recourse to the ICJ.
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Re: Norway nominated Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize

Postby erolz66 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:40 pm

Paphitis wrote:That is what the EU are claiming.

It doesn't mean Britain is breaking international law.

EU isn't even a country. No recourse to the ICJ.


No Paphitis it is what the UK's NI Minister SAID in the house of commons to the elected representatives of the British people, televised live. As a member of the government that wrote the bill in question he should know. Still just keep ignoring factual reality and then go baahhaa baaahhhaa baaahaaa.
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Re: Norway nominated Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:01 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:That is what the EU are claiming.

It doesn't mean Britain is breaking international law.

EU isn't even a country. No recourse to the ICJ.


No Paphitis it is what the UK's NI Minister SAID in the house of commons to the elected representatives of the British people, televised live. As a member of the government that wrote the bill in question he should know. Still just keep ignoring factual reality and then go baahhaa baaahhhaa baaahaaa.


NI should grow up and look at ways to re-unite their island and not concern themselves with holding the rest of the country hostage to EU bandits. That way they can remain in the EU. Kills 2 birds. An island reunited peacefully and remaining in the EU. Win win.

If however they don’t grow up and want to be a part of the UK, then learn to accept the mandate of the British people like good sports.
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Re: Norway nominated Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize

Postby erolz66 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:04 pm

Paphitis wrote:NI should grow up and look at ways to re-unite their island and not concern themselves with holding the rest of the country hostage to EU bandits. That way they can remain in the EU. Kills 2 birds. An island reunited peacefully and remaining in the EU. Win win.

If however they don’t grow up and want to be a part of the UK, then learn to accept the mandate of the British people like good sports.


Clamming a post is a classic is much over done imo but this one has to be a serious contender. :lol:

There is a fundamental failure of knowledge / understanding on your part shown in your reply above. I am not going to tell you what it is, it is too funny watching you to be honest. I'll give you a clue though. Is there a difference between Australian native people as a group and the Minister in the current Australian government who's portfolio covers native peoples affairs ? If the later said something would you tell the former to 'grow up' ? ;)

This is the person, speaking on behalf of the Jonhson government, as a minister in that government and and under the instruction of Johnson, that said in the house of commons that the intent of the bill he was bringing to the house on behalf of the government was to break international law but only a little bit and in specific ways.

https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers ... ary%202020.

If you are telling him to 'grow up' your are telling the Government that he is a part of and on who's behalf he was speaking in the house of commons to 'grow up'. Which is the Tory Johnson government.
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Re: Norway nominated Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize

Postby Paphitis » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:20 am

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:NI should grow up and look at ways to re-unite their island and not concern themselves with holding the rest of the country hostage to EU bandits. That way they can remain in the EU. Kills 2 birds. An island reunited peacefully and remaining in the EU. Win win.

If however they don’t grow up and want to be a part of the UK, then learn to accept the mandate of the British people like good sports.


Clamming a post is a classic is much over done imo but this one has to be a serious contender. :lol:

There is a fundamental failure of knowledge / understanding on your part shown in your reply above. I am not going to tell you what it is, it is too funny watching you to be honest. I'll give you a clue though. Is there a difference between Australian native people as a group and the Minister in the current Australian government who's portfolio covers native peoples affairs ? If the later said something would you tell the former to 'grow up' ? ;)

This is the person, speaking on behalf of the Jonhson government, as a minister in that government and and under the instruction of Johnson, that said in the house of commons that the intent of the bill he was bringing to the house on behalf of the government was to break international law but only a little bit and in specific ways.

https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers ... ary%202020.

If you are telling him to 'grow up' your are telling the Government that he is a part of and on who's behalf he was speaking in the house of commons to 'grow up'. Which is the Tory Johnson government.


Right, I don’t even know who the Minister for Aboriginal Affairs is. Must be one of those obscure portfolios no one really pays any attention to.

The Minister, any Minister can say whatever he wants but in the end, parliament votes and Australia will pass bills and make legislation. It’s the same in the UK. Parliament will vote and make the bill they need to put Hard BREXIT on the table.

NI can stop their whinging and grow up. They should be concentrating on their own issues and try to come to an agreement with Eire. The fact they divided themselves on religious grounds makes them almost as stupid as the TCs
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Re: Norway nominated Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize

Postby erolz66 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:03 am

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-boris ... t-12068541

Lord Howard described the government's admission that the proposed legislation would break international law as a "very, very sad day"."We have a reputation for probity, for upholding the rule of law, ...And it's a reputation that is very precious and that ought to be safeguarded. I'm afraid it was severely damaged." he told the Kay Burley @ Breakfast show.


Lord Howard is a former Tory party leader and staunch Brexit supporter.

https://news.sky.com/story/controversia ... s-12065832

Headline

Controversial Internal Market Bill breaks international law, government admits


Will the bill break international law?

Yes - by the government's own admission.


This is unprecedented. It is a dangerous precedent. If you want to argue by principle that states, unlike individuals or companies, should not be and are not bound by the terms in agreements they freely entered in to but can just unilaterally amend terms as they wish after signing and ratifying such a treaty, that is your choice. You might want to try considering what that means when you start banging on about Turkey being in break of international law in regards to an international treaty it has NOT signed.
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Re: Norway nominated Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize

Postby Paphitis » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:07 am

erolz66 wrote:https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-boris-johnson-facing-tory-revolt-over-plans-to-override-withdrawal-agreement-12068541

Lord Howard described the government's admission that the proposed legislation would break international law as a "very, very sad day"."We have a reputation for probity, for upholding the rule of law, ...And it's a reputation that is very precious and that ought to be safeguarded. I'm afraid it was severely damaged." he told the Kay Burley @ Breakfast show.


Lord Howard is a former Tory party leader and staunch Brexit supporter.

https://news.sky.com/story/controversia ... s-12065832

Headline

Controversial Internal Market Bill breaks international law, government admits


Will the bill break international law?

Yes - by the government's own admission.


This is unprecedented. It is a dangerous precedent. If you want to argue by principle that states, unlike individuals or companies, should not be and are not bound by the terms in agreements they freely entered in to but can just unilaterally amend terms as they wish after signing and ratifying such a treaty, that is your choice. You might want to try considering what that means when you start banging on about Turkey being in break of international law in regards to an international treaty it has NOT signed.


Sorry but I don't see any danger here.

The Britain is basically standing firm that there will be no internal boundaries if there is going to be Hard BREXIT.

It's quite a very fair thing to do. If the EU don't like it, they can take it to court.
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