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Re: Did you hold on to your XRP Milti ?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:41 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Maximus wrote:Bitcoin doesnt cease to amaze me.

That thing is ridiculous. :lol:

Zero, or next to, charges for using.

Shielded from inflation.

Banks can't fuck around with it.

Fuck me a LR comment that warrants a response !

Only if you were planning to correct him.

All in all, bitcoin’s got scam written all over it!

First you gotta purchase a “crypto wallet” which can range from $50 to $170; money you’ll never see again.

Btw, every bitcoin transaction costs more electricity than your average monthly electric bill so I expect governments to pull the plug on this sometime in the near future, for this reason alone.

Anyway, bitcoin swapping hands via the Internet is easy, but if you decide to cash out that’s when the “fun” begins!

First you gotta link this “crypto wallet” to your debit card (assuming your bank supports this) and I’m sure you can imagine the dangers of linking one’s bank account with some crypto-crap scheme that certain underworld individuals seem to have already infiltrated and emptied accounts… or maybe they only emptied the crypto wallets... can't remember now.

Anyway, finding a bitcoin ATM is also a lot of fun… good luck with that!

When you do find one (mostly in the US, I don’t even know if we have any in Cyprus) expect to pay between 7% and 10% fees for any transaction made (sale or purchase). So much for banks not fucking around with it!
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Re: Did you hold on to your XRP Milti ?

Postby Maximus » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:13 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Maximus wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
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Maximus wrote:Bitcoin doesnt cease to amaze me.

That thing is ridiculous. :lol:



Zero, or next to, charges for using.

Shielded from inflation.

Banks can't fuck around with it.


Fuck me a LR comment that warrants a response !

As LR said what's not to like Max ? I am currently sitting on just over ten times increase in worth in just under 4 years. Sure that could halve overnight, even to 1/10th but I have already taken out my initial investment. It's all gain from here as I see it. The only question is how much. Are you starting to see why for an 'investor / speculator' like me traditional trading practice, like the 'stop loss' may not be right for crypto ? If milti had 'stop loss' his losses he would be net negative right now instead of 20k up. At least that's how I see it. In crypto if you buy and price drops, just wait is my hyper sophisticated strategy. Done me better so far than some hedge funds you might mention ;)


I dont know,

what ceases to amaze me is that in keeps going up in value,

Each time it went higher, I hesitated from buying some because I was anticipating the top and the bubble to pop.

I still think bitcoin is a bubble but I am being proven wrong time and time again. its this hesitation that will probably fck me if I finally get involved and that is what I am mostly concerned about.

Buying the top. :lol:

But yeah, if its a long term investment the key is to use little or no leverage so you can hold it without running out of collateral.

If I had invested gbp 500 in the beginning, when my friend suggested it to me, when bitcoin was 15 cents, and held until now I would be a multi billionaire today..

Would have, could have, should have. :lol:

The moral of the story is, cease the opportunity as and when it arises and have the wisdom and foresight to recognize it as such.

The problem is, most small investors sell as soon as they make a decent profit, 50%-100%, and as the prices keep on rising, they do not go back in and instead wait until it comes down to below where they sold off. Timing the market and share prices is very tough and very risky. Ideally, spend what you can afford to lose and then just let it ride come what may, then you might just hit that multi billion dollar jackpot. :wink:


Yeah. I completely agree,

Short term trading, or trying to predict the market and timing it is a skill that takes years to acquire.

Most people cant do it and it is not for most people anyway. The odds are stacked against you.

For the average person, investing should involve buying and holding for the long term.

My best advice to someone looking to get started with investing would be to invest a small percentage of your monthly salary (say 10%) into something like an ETF or stock index.

The key is regular small investments over time to average out your position and build your portfolio over time.,

Then if you want, diversify slightly in to other things, like gold, bonds, crypto, single stocks etc. and use little to no leverage, better no leverage.

This will give the highest probability of making some kind of return and minimizing the risk of loss and it requires the least amount of time and effort.

This is investing, true to form in my opinion.
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Re: Did you hold on to your XRP Milti ?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:27 pm

Here's an interesting image for my friend Kikakopoulos to study... people with real money, not fool's gold! :)

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Re: Did you hold on to your XRP Milti ?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:29 pm

Maximus wrote:Each time it went higher, I hesitated from buying some because I was anticipating the top and the bubble to pop.


I talk myself out of buying at all time high around 500 usd per coin, using the same logic as you but its then that I started to really watch the market and educate myself about crypto, as I watched it peak at 5k per coin and then drop back to around 3.5k, which is when I first bought in. Personally I think there is more chance of a further 10 times increase than 10 times decrease. I have sold some of my stake, around 15%, on this recent rise and will buy back again as and when it falls back again.
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Re: Did you hold on to your XRP Milti ?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:40 pm

Get Real! wrote:First you gotta purchase a “crypto wallet” which can range from $50 to $170; money you’ll never see again.


You do not need a hardware wallet. A 'wallet' could just be keys / seeds written on a piece of paper and stored securely.

Get Real! wrote:Btw, every bitcoin transaction costs more electricity than your average monthly electric bill so I expect governments to pull the plug on this sometime in the near future, for this reason alone.


Ether and lightning network will remove this issue and in any case these numbers are generally exaggerated by the media I believe. Do not confuse an idivdual transaction with an individual block on the chain, not the same thing by a long shot.

Get Real! wrote:First you gotta link this “crypto wallet” to your debit card (assuming your bank supports this) and I’m sure you can imagine the dangers of linking one’s bank account with some crypto-crap scheme that certain underworld individuals seem to have already infiltrated and emptied accounts… or maybe they only emptied the crypto wallets... can't remember now.


All you need is an account with a reputable exchange. I currently use coinbase. I can transfer sterling fiat from my UK bank account to my coinbase account, near instantly and for no cost. I can also do the reverse also near instantly and no cost. Basically within minutes I can sell crypto for fiat on my coinbase account, transfer it from there to my UK account. Its not that tricky at all. From there I use revolut to pay for stuff locally either in euro or TL, getting near money market rates on the currency exchange and within certain limits withdraw it as euro or TL cash at a cash point.
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Re: Did you hold on to your XRP Milti ?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:04 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:First you gotta purchase a “crypto wallet” which can range from $50 to $170; money you’ll never see again.


You do not need a hardware wallet. A 'wallet' could just be keys / seeds written on a piece of paper and stored securely.

Get Real! wrote:Btw, every bitcoin transaction costs more electricity than your average monthly electric bill so I expect governments to pull the plug on this sometime in the near future, for this reason alone.


Ether and lightning network will remove this issue and in any case these numbers are generally exaggerated by the media I believe. Do not confuse an idivdual transaction with an individual block on the chain, not the same thing by a long shot.

Get Real! wrote:First you gotta link this “crypto wallet” to your debit card (assuming your bank supports this) and I’m sure you can imagine the dangers of linking one’s bank account with some crypto-crap scheme that certain underworld individuals seem to have already infiltrated and emptied accounts… or maybe they only emptied the crypto wallets... can't remember now.


All you need is an account with a reputable exchange. I currently use coinbase. I can transfer sterling fiat from my UK bank account to my coinbase account, near instantly and for no cost. I can also do the reverse also near instantly and no cost. Basically within minutes I can sell crypto for fiat on my coinbase account, transfer it from there to my UK account. Its not that tricky at all. From there I use revolut to pay for stuff locally either in euro or TL, getting near money market rates on the currency exchange and within certain limits withdraw it as euro or TL cash at a cash point.

Times must’ve changed with all these handy services you mention, because that’s how it was not too long ago.
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Re: Did you hold on to your XRP Milti ?

Postby miltiades » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:31 pm

It was in early February 2020 when I decided that I would stop trading as I found that doing so was no longer as exciting as it once was and time consuming. I begun trading almost 50 years ago and frankly I just wasn't enjoying it anymore, besides it did interfere with my " passionate" relationship with Cyprus. I kept XRP as I considered this as a long term investement since I frankly believe that this crypto has a long way to go yet. This Friday , Apriln16th, marks 4 years since arriving at Paradise island. Tim Drayton, whom I see every day.will vouch that I no longer trade, just watching the markets but refraining from entering.
Tim has been a great help to me.helping with my numerous.
..pussies, currently 7 cute 4 week old kittens whose mothers abandoned them.
For any budding investors my advice is to NEVER invest more than you can comfortably afford to lose and NEVER forget the fundamentals of trading. A few days ago Tim met Maria, remember Maria? , she arrived in Cyprus a few months back, met a guy from Nicosia and ....married him !! Well it lasted but a few months and left him. She asked if I could put her up for 2 or 3 days, of course being the guy Im I "Consented ".
She stayed for three weeks !! Her presence.here made me realise that next month I will reach the ....young age of 75, no longer that young. Each fruit has its season :lol:
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Re: Did you hold on to your XRP Milti ?

Postby Kikapu » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:54 pm

Get Real! wrote:Here's an interesting image for my friend Kikakopoulos to study... people with real money, not fool's gold! :)

richest-billionaire-in-every-state-2021-358c.jpg


Yes indeed. :D

Not too happy about Zuckerberg knocking me off my perch in California though! :lol:
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Re: Did you hold on to your XRP Milti ?

Postby erolz66 » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:57 pm

this one has everything - bitcoin , turkey economic woes and more :)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... oin-frenzy
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Re: Did you hold on to your XRP Milti ?

Postby Get Real! » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:47 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Here's an interesting image for my friend Kikakopoulos to study... people with real money, not fool's gold! :)

richest-billionaire-in-every-state-2021-358c.jpg

Yes indeed. :D

Not too happy about Zuckerberg knocking me off my perch in California though! :lol:

:lol:

There are 4-5 states left with no billionaire so take your pick and I’ll place your photo there! 8)

I’ve got your label ready…

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