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[repulsewarrior]

https://in-cyprus.philenews.com/protest ... us-papers/

...a protest at the Palace will be held Saturday at 4pm.

''“Come to mourn about the lost dignity of our political representatives, about the humiliation of the institutions of Democracy and Justice,” the organizers of the event mention.''

[Paphitis]

All well and good Holding a protest about this but is there any evidence of Cypriot politicians being mentioned in the Caymen Islands papers? If so, they should present the evidence and name the politicians involved.

Otherwise the protest is without cause and lacking credibility.

There was the Gold Passport saga though. But was that an isolated incident?

[repulsewarrior]

...pardon me, i was thinking long ago, in any case not the Cyprus Papers that you allude to, but those published in Greece about the coup; where the silence of our Leaders is deafening, where to this day not one fact from it is known as a basis for their action toward reform, toward the changes that end such corruption.

...such an irony that i forgot such a thing in the present day; indeed reality is stranger than fiction.

[Paphitis]

...pardon me, i was thinking long ago, in any case not the Cyprus Papers that you allude to, but those published in Greece about the coup; where the silence of our Leaders is deafening, where to this day not one fact from it is known as a basis for their action toward reform, toward the changes that end such corruption.

...such an irony that i forgot such a thing in the present day; indeed reality is stranger than fiction.

Oh I see! But what makes you think the President should come out and open this file now?

[repulsewarrior]

...never thought of that, good time bad time, but, the truth is the truth, it's always a good point to work from, painful or not what is necessary.

...while Mr. Anastasiades, as the President represents all Cypriots, i regret that he has not shown in his Leadership that it goes beyond "Hellenic" notions. Such as it is, he is wearing two hats when only one suits him. Without a Greek Constituency that is an equal to a Turkish Constituency, Cypriots do not have the representation they want, as Persons, and as Individuals in affect no representation at all.

...obviously, "they" (call them "Greeks and "Turks") want things just the way they are; Cypriots do not. The narrative like the Agenda has been "theirs" all these decades; look what it brought. Indeed, what is more reasoned cannot be found, (with all "their" secrets,) a Cypriot way, where as Individuals Cypriots stand together Greek or Turkish defending Universal Principles, despite what the "Greeks" and the "Turks" may say is not impossible.

Yet it takes the People, to express themselves, changing the narrative and changing themselves; overcoming fear culturally and individually.

...no doubt, not many appeared for this demonstration, and i cannot say it was about a betrayal important to me, that happened before the one i think these people were demonstrating about; but they're not anti-vaccers, that i also note.

[Paphitis]

It goes far beyond that I’m afraid.

These papers, in order for them to be classified, is to protect the State and its interests and secure sensitive material. And in this case, the papers probably mention people not just in Cyprus, but also Greece, and USA. Probably even UK.

So it’s not as if it is even Cyprus’ choice alone either. And it’s possible that the content of this file can sow division between Cypriots at a time when these divisions are mending.

As for representing all Cypriots. Anastasiades is probably the most pro BBF person in Cyprus along with AKEL. Probably someone up your alley. But he still won’t drop his pants and bend over a barrel which is what the TCs want.

[repulsewarrior]

errolz if he's around would likely give us a link; it was published i believe, and released, but i can't find it.

[Lordo]

I found this if its any help.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/turkey/secret-papers-show-greek-plans-for-1983-cyprus-invasion/28636

[Lordo]

and these

https://www.ft.com/content/cd1705e4-6867-11e7-8526-7b38dcaef614

https://www.lse.ac.uk/Hellenic-Observatory/Assets/Documents/Publications/GreeSE-Papers/GreeSE-No42.pdf

[repulsewarrior]

...wasn't there a report, by the Greek Government, on the activities and persons involved in the coup. Was Christofias President then? Weren't they called the Cyprus Papers?

...indeed, we discussed them on this very Forum, i remember; they were to be made public, then.