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Re: GR’s Political Scrapbook

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:48 pm

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Maximus wrote:Here is an image from 2018, when he became a marine. Can you enlist in the Ukrainian army as a British man without Ukrainian citizenship?

Apparently, in the Ukraine prior to Feb 2022 even a comedian could become the president of the country for the right price!

Ask Ihor Kolomoisky who paid top dollar to place him there so that he could run the country without any of the responsibilities!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi


You saying that he could be a citizen of Ukraine, officially enlisted in the Ukrainian army. :roll:

Still, this is a death sentence by a kangaroo court.
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Re: GR’s Political Scrapbook

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:50 pm

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Unlike some Cypriots, I don’t get easily confused by comparisons between the CyProb and the UkiProb… I don’t fall for such fallacy as every conflict in the world is unique.



That is exactly what the hypocrites say. :?

The hypocrites are those who were silent during the Iraqi invasion/occupation as well as the Afghani invasion/occupation.


Yes, and that is exactly what they say when comparisons are made between the CyProb and the UkiProb. :roll:

The difference here is, these hypocrites support Ukraine against Russia but not Cyprus against Turkey.

Go figure, you are talking like them.
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Re: GR’s Political Scrapbook

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:52 pm

Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:Here is an image from 2018, when he became a marine. Can you enlist in the Ukrainian army as a British man without Ukrainian citizenship?

Apparently, in the Ukraine prior to Feb 2022 even a comedian could become the president of the country for the right price!

Ask Ihor Kolomoisky who paid top dollar to place him there so that he could run the country without any of the responsibilities!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi


You saying that he could be a citizen of Ukraine, officially enlisted in the Ukrainian army. :roll:

Still, this is a death sentence by a kangaroo court.

I’m saying that in the past-Ukraine money talked and bullshit walked… anything was possible for the right price.

As for kangaroo courts... this entity is only 3 months old and was borne out of east vs. west conflict, so I don’t expect it to be recognized by much for now.
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Re: GR’s Political Scrapbook

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:01 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:
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Maximus wrote:Here is an image from 2018, when he became a marine. Can you enlist in the Ukrainian army as a British man without Ukrainian citizenship?

Apparently, in the Ukraine prior to Feb 2022 even a comedian could become the president of the country for the right price!

Ask Ihor Kolomoisky who paid top dollar to place him there so that he could run the country without any of the responsibilities!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi


You saying that he could be a citizen of Ukraine, officially enlisted in the Ukrainian army. :roll:

Still, this is a death sentence by a kangaroo court.

I’m saying that in the past-Ukraine money talked and bullshit walked… anything was possible for the right price.

As for kangaroo courts... this entity is only 3 months old and was borne out of east vs. west conflict, so I don’t expect it to be recognized by much for now.


This is very much a kangaroo court today.

Russia, didn't have this death penalty prior to the invasion of Ukraine and neither did the so called Donetsk peoples republic.

It was Russia that introduced it and in my opinion, it seems like this sentence is politically motivated verdict.

If he is in fact a citizen of Ukraine, enlisted in the Ukrainian army, (it does look like that from my perspective) he should be treated as a prisoner of war under the Geneva convention.

Russia is a signatory to that convention.
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Re: GR’s Political Scrapbook

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:18 pm

Maximus wrote:This is very much a kangaroo court today.

Russia, didn't have this death penalty prior to the invasion of Ukraine and neither did the so called Donetsk peoples republic.

It was Russia that introduced it and in my opinion, it seems like this sentence is politically motivated verdict.

If he is in fact a citizen of Ukraine, enlisted in the Ukrainian army, (it does look like that from my perspective) he should be treated as a prisoner of war under the Geneva convention.

Russia is a signatory to that convention.

Well that’s the job of his lawyer… to find such citizenship if it exists and present it to the court so that his customer may be entitled to treatment as per the Geneva conventions.

If not then I’m afraid the Ukraine is a signatory to that other convention against Mercenaries that I spoke about, in which case he’s fucked!
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Re: GR’s Political Scrapbook

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:26 pm

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A British man......end of.



Of course he is British, he will never stop being British.

If he was Nigerian, with Ukrainian citizenship, Nigerian state media will also be saying "A Nigerian man sentenced to death by a Russian proxy court for fighting in Ukraine".

Have you got any proof he hasn't got Ukrainian citizenship or nationality?

Here is an image from 2018, when he became a marine. Can you enlist in the Ukrainian army as a British man without Ukrainian citizenship?


You are missing the point Max. The article was to make the claim that he is a citizen of Ukraine to which the death penalty should not apply to him, and yet his supposedly Ukraine citizenship was way down the article and not at the top along with his British citizenship. It was almost an afterthought that, “and oh my the way, he is also a citizen of Ukraine”.

No, I don’t have to prove anything. He is the one who needs to prove that he has been a citizen of Ukraine before the war started to save his neck.

In any case, I do not believe anyone is going to be executed, especially the Brits. Russians will make everyone believe that they will face the firing squad, but I can’t see it happening. Some hard labour, maybe.
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Re: GR’s Political Scrapbook

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:01 pm

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A British man......end of.



Of course he is British, he will never stop being British.

If he was Nigerian, with Ukrainian citizenship, Nigerian state media will also be saying "A Nigerian man sentenced to death by a Russian proxy court for fighting in Ukraine".

Have you got any proof he hasn't got Ukrainian citizenship or nationality?

Here is an image from 2018, when he became a marine. Can you enlist in the Ukrainian army as a British man without Ukrainian citizenship?


You are missing the point Max. The article was to make the claim that he is a citizen of Ukraine to which the death penalty should not apply to him, and yet his supposedly Ukraine citizenship was way down the article and not at the top along with his British citizenship. It was almost an afterthought that, “and oh my the way, he is also a citizen of Ukraine”.

No, I don’t have to prove anything. He is the one who needs to prove that he has been a citizen of Ukraine before the war started to save his neck.

In any case, I do not believe anyone is going to be executed, especially the Brits. Russians will make everyone believe that they will face the firing squad, but I can’t see it happening. Some hard labour, maybe.


The reason why I asked you, whether you have any proof that he is not a Ukrainian national or citizen is because you seem to be convinced and trying to convince me he is not. Despite there being references to him being a dual national, British and Ukrainian, in the sources you are quoting and referring to.
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Re: GR’s Political Scrapbook

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:03 pm

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Maximus wrote:This is very much a kangaroo court today.

Russia, didn't have this death penalty prior to the invasion of Ukraine and neither did the so called Donetsk peoples republic.

It was Russia that introduced it and in my opinion, it seems like this sentence is politically motivated verdict.

If he is in fact a citizen of Ukraine, enlisted in the Ukrainian army, (it does look like that from my perspective) he should be treated as a prisoner of war under the Geneva convention.

Russia is a signatory to that convention.

Well that’s the job of his lawyer… to find such citizenship if it exists and present it to the court so that his customer may be entitled to treatment as per the Geneva conventions.

If not then I’m afraid the Ukraine is a signatory to that other convention against Mercenaries that I spoke about, in which case he’s fucked!


BUT, this is what is being said. Whether the kangaroo court acknowledges that is a different story.

His appointed lawyer is probably a joey, in the pocket of the kangaroo.
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Re: GR’s Political Scrapbook

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Re: GR’s Political Scrapbook

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:46 pm

Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:This is very much a kangaroo court today.

Russia, didn't have this death penalty prior to the invasion of Ukraine and neither did the so called Donetsk peoples republic.

It was Russia that introduced it and in my opinion, it seems like this sentence is politically motivated verdict.

If he is in fact a citizen of Ukraine, enlisted in the Ukrainian army, (it does look like that from my perspective) he should be treated as a prisoner of war under the Geneva convention.

Russia is a signatory to that convention.

Well that’s the job of his lawyer… to find such citizenship if it exists and present it to the court so that his customer may be entitled to treatment as per the Geneva conventions.

If not then I’m afraid the Ukraine is a signatory to that other convention against Mercenaries that I spoke about, in which case he’s fucked!

BUT, this is what is being said. Whether the kangaroo court acknowledges that is a different story.

His appointed lawyer is probably a joey, in the pocket of the kangaroo.

Ah well, too bad for him Maximus… should’ve never went there in the first place!

I for one won’t be losing any sleep over someone who made a career out of killing complete strangers in different parts of the world!
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