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Migrants, a very Cypriot story.

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Re: Migrants, a very Cypriot story.

Postby Maximus » Tue May 03, 2022 12:26 pm

when the sum of this migration becomes an expense and burden for the host nation.

Such as costing £5m per day for the UK, leads to housing shortages, strains public services and changes the demographics,

It becomes a problem. London has become an unaffordable ghetto....

for instance, Cyprus has 50k people show up in the space of a year. On top of the existing unemployed. these people need accommodation, kids need to go to school, they need to see doctors, they need jobs. They need funding in the meantime.

50K extra people on a small island of less than 1 million mushrooming like that in such a short period of time is going to create problems for the host nation.

Integrating this mass migration is not a solution. 43K need repatriating because 85% of their claims are bogus.

If you support this, dont complain about people not being able to earn a living wage and unaffordable property prices when there is an over supply of cheap labor pushing wages down and property prices up in the market place.
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Re: Migrants, a very Cypriot story.

Postby Maximus » Tue May 03, 2022 5:56 pm

The Turkish government is working on a new project to facilitate the voluntary return of some 1 million Syrian refugees living Turkey, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said on Tuesday,

Turkey, who host about 4 million Syrian refugees, who make up about 5% of the total population, are facing major difficulties in the country. With a high unemployment rate and an economy on the verge of bankruptcy, the demographic has experienced a wave of anti-immigration sentiments. This is pretty much the same all over Europe.

Erdogans ruling party has come under immense criticism over the years from opposition parties and his junior coalition partner, who have vowed to return the Syrian refugees over the next few years, having also referred to the number of refugees in the country like an invasion and occupation.

https://ahvalnews.com/syrian-migrants/n ... ys-erdogan

The moral of the story is; the burden should be shared, each country should take some genuine refugees or asylum seekers for a temporary period of time, but not that many.
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Re: Migrants, a very Cypriot story.

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue May 03, 2022 6:08 pm

...who can agree with queue jumpers and illegal aliens; the point is, can you tell, meeting them on the street, who should be stigmatized as such?

...and in Turkey, it was not that long ago where it was concluded, despite the negative sentiment which abounds, that Syrian refugees have provided a net contribution to the Turkish economy.
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Re: Migrants, a very Cypriot story.

Postby Maximus » Tue May 03, 2022 6:30 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...who can agree with queue jumpers and illegal aliens; the point is, can you tell, meeting them on the street, who should be stigmatized as such?

...and in Turkey, it was not that long ago where it was concluded, despite the negative sentiment which abounds, that Syrian refugees have provided a net contribution to the Turkish economy.


No, you cant tell who is an illegal alien by looking at someone on the street.

But here is the problem, when people from certain countries, continents or demographics are irregularly migrating in mass (with a high rate of bogus asylum claims), anti-immigrant sentiments will rise across much of the host country's population towards all people of that demographic.

If you are part of that mass movement of irregular migrants, or a late comer joining the band wagon, you are going to find things very difficult in the host country. Not only from the anti-immigration sentiment, but the increased competition for housing, jobs, language etc... If you are part of these masses, that have no marketable in demand skills for the host nation, you are going to find things extremely difficult.

Something they havent worked out yet before setting off on the journey. They find out later that it was a bad idea.
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Re: Migrants, a very Cypriot story.

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue May 03, 2022 6:35 pm

...indeed, such is war; such is this "soft" war of Turkey.

...and in effect, by doing better we not only survive but thrive; this too is war, by adapting and in doing so overcoming the fear that seems overwhelming.
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Re: Migrants, a very Cypriot story.

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:38 pm

Helping Asylum Seekers in Northern Cyprus
https://www.project-syndicate.org/comme ... ri-2022-07

...a comprehensive opinion piece on the subject; if you're interested in the subject.
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Re: Migrants, a very Cypriot story.

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Sep 10, 2022 6:39 pm

Much has been said about the many missing and murdered Nigerians in the occupied territories recently,

https://thenationonlineng.net/mother-cr ... rn-cyprus/

...this story is worth repeating.
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Re: Migrants, a very Cypriot story.

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:26 am

Frontex, first time in Cyprus.

Twenty third-country nationals illegally residing in Cyprus on Tuesday evening left the Mediterranean island within the framework of a coordinated joint forced return operation organised by Frontex.

A total of nine European countries participated in the operation, with Cyprus acting as the focal point for the first time ever.

Also participating in the operation are Greece, Romania, Italy, the Czech Republic, France, Malta, Spain and Sweden.

https://in-cyprus.philenews.com/news/lo ... time-ever/
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Re: Migrants, a very Cypriot story.

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:01 pm

As it is noted "the Religious Leaders of Cyprus call on the faith communities in Cyprus to stand with refugees by taking big and small steps in solidarity with them. They reiterate their call on decision-makers to address the underlying causes of refugees and uphold the human right to asylum."

Archbishop Chrysostomos II of the Greek Orthodox Church of Cyprus said: “Help solve the problems of refugees and for the Mediterranean Sea to cease being a graveyard for innocent people.”

“Embracing refugees and providing them with maximum care is not only humanitarian requirements, but is also a religious obligation” Mufti of CyprusTalip Atalay noted.

Father Jerzy Kraj of the Latin Catholic Church of Cyprus said that “refugees are our brothers and sisters in search of a better life.”.

Archbishop Khoren Doghramajian of the Armenian Church of Cyprus noted that “religions teach us to love each other, and we should extend this love equally to our fellow human being.”

“Let us welcome them, listen to them, protect and accompany them and learn from their potential.” Archbishop Youssef Soueif of the Maronite Church of Cyprus noted.

https://www.brief.com.cy/english/cyprus ... y-refugees
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Re: Migrants, a very Cypriot story.

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:30 pm

https://cyprus-mail.com/2023/04/09/the- ... -heritage/

...well worth reading.

Still, the bottom line is that – even though many were forced here, even though they faced a barrage of insults and abuse across the centuries – some did ultimately stay, and often flourished. Kanay doesn’t like the word ‘assimilation’ (she prefers ‘hybridity’), but it’s true nonetheless that “the black people that were brought here earlier, or came here as free people, have been assimilated into Cypriot culture, and particularly into Turkish Cypriot culture”. Hopefully the new wave can do the same.
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