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Re: Refugee or not to Refugee

Postby Maximus » Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:44 am

Lordo wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
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How the fuck can you decide a person is a bogus assylum seeker before looking at their indivdual cases.



I am talking about cases that have gone through the asylum process and have been given legal verdicts,

85-90% of them are bogus. 85-90% of the people coming to the EU, most probably have a bogus claim to asylum too.

You are talking rubbish.


100% are bogus, including the Syrian refugees. Because they are attempting an illegal crosasing from a country that is in peace and which also offers protection and isn't persecuting them.

Swim along reh psari


He is closer to being right than you are Bordo. Syrians should be going back to Syria and many of them have already.

What you need to remember is, being a refugees in another country is a temporary status anyway. :roll:

as soon as it is safe to return, you have to go back.

A refugee is someone seeking refuge from war, persecution or natural disaster. :roll:

To seek asylum, you really need to have solid irrefutable proof that you are being persecuted.

Just because the economic situation in their country is bad, doesn't mean they can seek refuge or asylum in another country.

Just because someone is poor, it doesnt mean they can illegally go to another country as a welfare tourist. :roll:
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Re: Refugee or not to Refugee

Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:47 am

Lordo wrote:
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Maximus wrote:
Lordo wrote:
How the fuck can you decide a person is a bogus assylum seeker before looking at their indivdual cases.



I am talking about cases that have gone through the asylum process and have been given legal verdicts,

85-90% of them are bogus. 85-90% of the people coming to the EU, most probably have a bogus claim to asylum too.

You are talking rubbish.


100% are bogus, including the Syrian refugees. Because they are attempting an illegal crosasing from a country that is in peace and which also offers protection and isn't persecuting them.

Swim along reh psari


Furthermore, and of course you are not going to like it, there are only claims Greece is breaking EU law.

But the EU certainly doesn't see it probably because they are just claims.

The EU developed FRONTEX, with the aim of heliping Greece and Italy out on the front lines. Both Greece and Italy recieved hundreds of millions of EU funding, as well as Patrol Boats for its mariime and ports services, customs, and police.

Not only that, but EU countries like Finland also sent their own patrol boats to help Greece out.

And what are they helping with? Well to keep these boats with illegal migrants out of Greece.

Greece is under no obligation to take illegal migrants by neither the UN nor the EU.
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Re: Refugee or not to Refugee

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Dec 26, 2021 6:25 pm

Maximus wrote:

What you need to remember is, being a refugees in another country is a temporary status anyway. :roll:

as soon as it is safe to return, you have to go back.

A refugee is someone seeking refuge from war, persecution or natural disaster. :roll:

To seek asylum, you really need to have solid irrefutable proof that you are being persecuted.

Just because the economic situation in their country is bad, doesn't mean they can seek refuge or asylum in another country.

Just because someone is poor, it doesnt mean they can illegally go to another country as a welfare tourist. :roll:


Well said Max.
Imagine there was a black guy on TV the other day threatening us saying, "Cyprus is not a good Country, I will tell my friends not to come here". Is if Cyprus was his tourist resort. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Refugee or not to Refugee

Postby Maximus » Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:05 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Maximus wrote:

What you need to remember is, being a refugees in another country is a temporary status anyway. :roll:

as soon as it is safe to return, you have to go back.

A refugee is someone seeking refuge from war, persecution or natural disaster. :roll:

To seek asylum, you really need to have solid irrefutable proof that you are being persecuted.

Just because the economic situation in their country is bad, doesn't mean they can seek refuge or asylum in another country.

Just because someone is poor, it doesnt mean they can illegally go to another country as a welfare tourist. :roll:



Well said Max.
Imagine there was a black guy on TV the other day threatening us saying, "Cyprus is not a good Country, I will tell my friends not to come here". Is if Cyprus was his tourist resort. :lol: :lol: :lol:


And that is partly why Europe has this problem,

There are idiots advising other idiots to seek asylum in the EU, because they will get somewhere to live, get some pocket money and have the ability to work in the EU. I have seen them on YouTube doing this as well. They see seeking asylum as their way to move to the EU because they would otherwise be refused.

Then, if they manage to make it to the EU, they have this false sense of entitlement.

These are the worse people, because they are opportunists and take the time and resources away from the people who really are refugees.
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Re: Refugee or not to Refugee

Postby Maximus » Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:17 pm

This is an interesting watch.

The shattered dreams of African migrants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2BqaTCujlM

African migrants tell their story and advise others not to take the risk to migrate (seek asylum) in the EU.

These people are not refugees!
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Re: Refugee or not to Refugee

Postby Lordo » Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:24 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Maximus wrote:

What you need to remember is, being a refugees in another country is a temporary status anyway. :roll:

as soon as it is safe to return, you have to go back.

A refugee is someone seeking refuge from war, persecution or natural disaster. :roll:

To seek asylum, you really need to have solid irrefutable proof that you are being persecuted.

Just because the economic situation in their country is bad, doesn't mean they can seek refuge or asylum in another country.

Just because someone is poor, it doesnt mean they can illegally go to another country as a welfare tourist. :roll:


Well said Max.
Imagine there was a black guy on TV the other day threatening us saying, "Cyprus is not a good Country, I will tell my friends not to come here". Is if Cyprus was his tourist resort. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Is thet really your response? No attempt to find out whay this was said, what did this person suffer in Cyprus?

I wonder what would those 4 Egyption men who got burnt alive would have said about working in Cyprus if they were alive today.
Did he say why?

Only joking, I know why because they suffer the same in the north too. Lets face it, on the whole Cypriot people are racist. I am not talking 10% like in most other countries I am talking more than 25% of the people.
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Re: Refugee or not to Refugee

Postby Lordo » Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:27 pm

Maximus wrote:This is an interesting watch.

The shattered dreams of African migrants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2BqaTCujlM

African migrants tell their story and advise others not to take the risk to migrate (seek asylum) in the EU.

These people are not refugees!

Define me refugee.

What does it mean?
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Re: Refugee or not to Refugee

Postby Maximus » Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:33 pm

Lordo wrote:
Maximus wrote:This is an interesting watch.

The shattered dreams of African migrants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2BqaTCujlM

African migrants tell their story and advise others not to take the risk to migrate (seek asylum) in the EU.

These people are not refugees!

Define me refugee.

What does it mean?


I have already done that, a few posts ago, because you are lumping everyone in to refugee status.

The 3 guys being interviewed in that youtube video are not refugees and they came the same way as 85-90% of people that have been refuse asylum in the EU.
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Re: Refugee or not to Refugee

Postby Maximus » Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:48 pm

Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Maximus wrote:

What you need to remember is, being a refugees in another country is a temporary status anyway. :roll:

as soon as it is safe to return, you have to go back.

A refugee is someone seeking refuge from war, persecution or natural disaster. :roll:

To seek asylum, you really need to have solid irrefutable proof that you are being persecuted.

Just because the economic situation in their country is bad, doesn't mean they can seek refuge or asylum in another country.

Just because someone is poor, it doesnt mean they can illegally go to another country as a welfare tourist. :roll:


Well said Max.
Imagine there was a black guy on TV the other day threatening us saying, "Cyprus is not a good Country, I will tell my friends not to come here". Is if Cyprus was his tourist resort. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Is thet really your response? No attempt to find out whay this was said, what did this person suffer in Cyprus?

I wonder what would those 4 Egyption men who got burnt alive would have said about working in Cyprus if they were alive today.
Did he say why?

Only joking, I know why because they suffer the same in the north too. Lets face it, on the whole Cypriot people are racist. I am not talking 10% like in most other countries I am talking more than 25% of the people.


Probably because no one believes he is an asylum seeker and he isnt getting his welfare from the Cypriots.

Or maybe because he is stuck in an over crowded migrant camp and this isnt what was sold to him in the "brochure" by the people smugglers.

there is an 85-90% chance that he is making a bogus claim for asylum and he has a false sense of entitlement.
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Re: Refugee or not to Refugee

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:52 pm

Lordo wrote:Is thet really your response? No attempt to find out whay this was said, what did this person suffer in Cyprus?

I know why, he said it. They don't give him enough pocket money.

I wonder what would those 4 Egyption men who got burnt alive would have said about working in Cyprus if they were alive today.
Did he say why?

Please don't talk out of your arse. You have no idea what happened.They were all legal foreign workers with visa and everything. The boss actually adored the youngest one he treated him as his son. He was crying on TV, he said they were all very nice people and honest. Called them that there was a fire and advised them to take the truck and leave. He didn't care for his farm, all he wanted of them was to be safe. They took the truck but fire encircled the whole area...


Only joking, I know why because they suffer the same in the north too. Lets face it, on the whole Cypriot people are racist. I am not talking 10% like in most other countries I am talking more than 25% of the people.

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