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Bravo Papadopoule!

Postby kalamaras74 » Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:20 am

Well I will say one thing. He has balls. I am so glad he is not going to meet with Bryza. I think you Cypriots are too introspective always claiming that it is the political personalities' failures that are responsible for your problems. The terms you are forced to agree to are ridiculous. You may not like him, but he is not putting up with BS from the powers. England and the US are trying to bully Cyprus into accepting the latest from Ankara.

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/arti ... wsid=34381

You have the power now. Use it wisely.

"In an earlier reaction to Ankara's latest move, the United States welcomed the proposal as an expression of Turkey's willingness to advance a negotiated settlement of the Cyprus issue."

You have the UN. You have the ECHR. You have the customs protocol. Don't blow it.
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Postby kalamaras74 » Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:42 am

And I mean Turkish Cypriots as well. The Powers are messing with both parties big time. Business as usual.
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Postby Lala_Mustafa_Pasha » Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:12 pm

And I mean Turkish Cypriots as well.


No you dont :lol:

Were quite happy thanks, anythings better than trying to be wiped off the Island by Greek Junta and then starved for 30 years, now ambargo;s are getting lifted, thanks "Powers" lol
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Postby kalamaras74 » Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:33 am

LOL @ you. Lifted? Really? That's news to me. Can you post an article stating that this is a definite reality and not speculation. Thanks. I really haven't hear about that.


Where is the junta these days? This is the lamest argument of all. Not only have you been isolated for 30 years but your world view has remained frozen in time as well.


!!!KIBRIS TURK DEGIL TURK KALMACAK!!!
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Postby Leonidas » Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:50 am

Bravo for WHAT?

Wake up people. Cyprus is as large as one of the smallest States in the US. Our governor here has more power and is more respected than THE President of Cyprus.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would ANYONE listen to Moron Papadopoulo? WHO is he anyway? A Nobody.
Wake up!!!!!! Face reality.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:33 am

You wake up morons of the USA and realize that if you don't stop bulling the world because of your arrogance more 9/11 will come and the world will be united against you and your axis.

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Postby Leonidas » Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:31 pm

Piratis wrote:You wake up morons of the USA and realize that if you don't stop bulling the world because of your arrogance more 9/11 will come and the world will be united against you and your axis.]


Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.
Comments like yours, is what keeps the Cyprus Problem a problem. Face it. The USA is not what you people think it is. Yet no matter what, either because of jealousy or whatever, your kind of people wants to see its demise. Whatever it is I don't care.

We still remember comments made by Greeks and GC's that we deserved 9/11. And you know. That did not help Cyprus ONE bit. Then on the other hand you see the Turks make every effort to show that they are our partners. YES of course we would listen to them than to you, the ones that proved to us that we can not count on.

Let’s face it. We the Cypriots ASKED for it and we still getting it 30 plus years later.

We think that the whole world revolves around us yet most of the world has no idea who we are.

How many countries blow off a plan by the United Nations like we did?
A tiny country of less than 800,000 people thinks that it can make a difference in international decisions.

I am a Greek Cypriot, living in the USA and I am proud of my heritage. I find our Cypriot government lacking a clear view for the future. IF we really want a solution we need to get a clear view now. We can not play the tough guy because after all we DID lose the war. I was there. I have seen it happen. We DID lose it. There is no other way to put it.

We need a clear view that joins Cypriots together, period. I was raised around some TC's and I never had one bad thing to say about them. My dad worked with them and spoke to them like everyone else should. They were and are still our countrymen.

Guys and gals!!!!. WE the GCs screwed it all up early on. That was when someone, in a black rope, attempted to change the constitution of the country. We can blame it to everyone else but we have to accept we started it.

After all these years we are still getting nowhere. I have seen it when I was there early this January; I see it in the postings here. We HAVE to change our way of thinking. We have to let go of the past.

We both, GCs and TC’s need to do it, IF we want a solution. And we should accept that solutions need to arrive from negotiations and that they will not be to either sides 100% liking. NOT by playing TOUGH guys and refusing to go to the negotiations table.
It will HAVE to be a compromise.
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Not so fast.

Postby kalamaras74 » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:03 pm

Hi, really were all Greek Cypriots responsible for the coup in 74? You are too quick to assume all the blame for the problem, when, in fact, there are many guilty parties.

Ever read the Makarios Drousiotis' article of the conversation between Kissinger and Colby the night before the invasion? It was in Greek in Eleftherotypia, but I can post a translation for you. They spoke of it in such detail before it happened, as if it were a fait accompli. This is why there are anti-American Greeks and Cypriots. The Americans backed the junta and the coup.

I don't think Cyprus should "pay" for its mistakes as you seem to be implying. If there is going to be a solution, it is going to be an equitable one for Greek Cypriots as well. Turkish troops will leave and if there are going to be two loosely bound states, the Turkish part will comprise an area proportional to its population.

As for negotiations, you have international condemnation Turkish military presence on Cyprus. Non-recognition of TRNC. Turkey signing the customs protocol which it must agree to. You would be foolish to agree to just anything they put on the table. The Ankara proposal is not any different from anything they have put forward in the past. Speaking of tough guys, Hilmi Ozkok who leads the National Security Council the real governing body of Turkey, has made a point of repeating that Turkish troops will never leave Cyprus due to it's crucial strategic importance to Turkey. How is there supposed to be a solution when the US is MOST DEFINITELY biased to Turkey and has made its EU accession process a priority? Quite thinking all stars and stripes and try seeing the shades of gray. People are anti-American for reasons other than jealousy.
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Postby Leonidas » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:15 pm

Blame blame blame.
That IS what will keep us the way we are.
Foward thinking. That IS what will solve the problem.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:09 pm

We the Cypriots

Leonidas, you should say "you the Cypriots", since as it is obvious from other parts of your comments when you use the word "we" you mean Americans. (not to mention the US flag that you use as an avatar).

So stop pretending to speak as a Cypriot. You speak as a typical arrogant american that thinks that the whole world should bow in front of your idiot president.

Seriously now, you elected the biggest idiot in history as a president twice, and then you complain about Papadopoulos?
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