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$300 billion can buy a lot of arms for Ukraine

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:40 pm

The west should use Russia's frozen reserves to buy arms for the Ukraine military.

Or set up a war crimes tribunal and award the $300 to Ukriane as partial payment of future war reparations.

The world thanks the Russian Treasuries overseas held bonds.
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Re: $300 billion can buy a lot of arms for Ukraine

Postby Get Real! » Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:43 pm

A smart person would look at the long term effects of such a maneuver…

Who is gonna trust the US with their reserves anymore?

Bit by bit the US is destroying itself…
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Re: $300 billion can buy a lot of arms for Ukraine

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:45 pm

Get Real! wrote:A smart person would look at the long term effects of such a maneuver…

Who is gonna trust the US with their reserves anymore?

Bit by bit the US is destroying itself…


Russian Bankruptcy.

The money beloings to Ukraine now. To cover some of the illegal damages to the country.

No one would say a word.

Don't worry about the US. It isn't destroying itself at all. Life in the states is completely ok other than a little bit of inflation which the Federal Reserve inflates interest rates, causing oil prices to plummet in about 6 months time, resulting in Russian revenues being decimated even further.

Russia is not in control of anything. Whereas the US is able to take the entire world into depression at its whim. And that will only temporarily affect them as they are a primary producer of everything and will rebound through the other end, whilst Russia goes to the stone age.
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Re: $300 billion can buy a lot of arms for Ukraine

Postby Lordo » Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:22 pm

More important to ask, how will it be done without the permanent UNSC approval?

How legal will that be? As legal as bombing Libya. Unfortunately for them Russia can defent herself.
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Re: $300 billion can buy a lot of arms for Ukraine

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jul 04, 2022 4:09 am

Lordo wrote:More important to ask, how will it be done without the permanent UNSC approval?

How legal will that be? As legal as bombing Libya. Unfortunately for them Russia can defent herself.


Who cares about the UNSC - Russia is a sanctioned country and they will veto it. Hence UN is toothless.

We are now at war with Russia since Russia's illegal invasion. We didn't get UNSC approval to freeze these assets and it's probably fair the money gets handed over to Ukraine.

Either way, Russia won't be getting this money. 8)
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Re: $300 billion can buy a lot of arms for Ukraine

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Jul 04, 2022 4:37 am

...be careful Paphitis, we, the Human race are all in it together, (bearing a Rule of Law).

The USA cannot pull a rabbit out of a hat. Leaders in Australia, or Canada, should not be taking people's money and spending it as they please because "they" alone choose to, never mind the USA; this does not go well with their values.

$300 billion is a lot, indeed; it gives every child a chance to read with a full belly. It is not a lot when wars cost trillions.

...indeed, with such talk i fear that nothing will change because plunder is an easy choice measured in military might and still too easy in affect for the few who have this power.

(But in effect, "This" must stop.)

...and for 'us' it seems easy, to pick a side ("our" side to be sure) and maybe win easy a better life for "us". And voila you are a Person, with your identity as an Individual usurped, (and in a war no less) less a Citizen of the world, going along with the narrative the "few" decide upon and hoping only to survive. In affect, if 'we' do not decide the ways to spend our money, "they" will spend the money.

And if 'we' let "them" find war alluring, let it be not against each other, but the enemies that count like our own Ignorance, and the Hunger and Disease that comes from it.

What are our Basic Human Rights, for those of us who have them we are lucky because it appears that they can be lost more easily than we think.

...this war needs a change in intentions. This may be where war ends, i hope so.

One hopes that Putin, Erdogan , and Zelensky, will take to their respective countries the Constitutional change each one needs, given the Cultural diversity of each.

...a BBF that's good for Cyprus would likely be no different.
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Re: $300 billion can buy a lot of arms for Ukraine

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jul 04, 2022 4:41 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...be careful Paphitis, we, the Human race are all in it together, (bearing a Rule of Law).

The USA cannot pull a rabbit out of a hat. Leaders in Australia, or Canada, should not be taking people's money and spending it as they please because "they" alone choose to, never mind the USA; this does not go well with their values.

$300 billion is a lot, indeed; it gives every child a chance to read with a full belly. It is not a lot when wars cost trillions.

...indeed, with such talk i fear that nothing will change because plunder is an easy choice measured in military might and still too easy in affect for the few who have this power.

(But in effect, "This" must stop.)

...and for 'us' it seems easy, to pick a side ("our" side to be sure) and maybe win easy a better life for "us". And voila you are a Person, with your identity as an Individual usurped, (and in a war no less) less a Citizen of the world, going along with the narrative the "few" decide upon and hoping only to survive. In affect, if 'we' do not decide the ways to spend our money, "they" will spend the money.

And if 'we' let "them" find war alluring, let it be not against each other, but the enemies that count like our own Ignorance, and the Hunger and Disease that comes from it.

What are our Basic Human Rights, for those of us who have them we are lucky because it appears that they can be lost more easily than we think.

...this war needs a change in intentions. This may be where war ends, i hope so.

One hopes that Putin, Erdogan , and Zelensky, will take to their respective countries the Constitutional change each one needs, given the Cultural diversity of each.

...a BBF that's good for Cyprus would likely be no different.


We are all in it with Ukraine RW.

We are not all in it with Russia - who has invaded and committed war crimes.

Ukraine is far more democratic than both Russia and Turkey.

As for the 300 billion - we have it in our possession as we froze these assets. These assets should be transferred to Ukraine.
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Re: $300 billion can buy a lot of arms for Ukraine

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:15 am

...indeed. I do not disagree with you Paphitis.
And as far as i know Zelensky gets it, the issues (and thus that he gets all that he wants),
fighting for our Freedom; i bet you are just as grateful as i am.
Slava Ukraine! And the Russian People who are not "Russian" they need our good wishes too.

...my views perhaps are too hopeful, to expect good intentions; but we live in extraordinary times: at the brink on so many levels.
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Re: $300 billion can buy a lot of arms for Ukraine

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:37 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...indeed. I do not disagree with you Paphitis.
And as far as i know Zelensky gets it, the issues (and thus that he gets all that he wants),
fighting for our Freedom; i bet you are just as grateful as i am.
Slava Ukraine! And the Russian People who are not "Russian" they need our good wishes too.

...my views perhaps are too hopeful, to expect good intentions; but we live in extraordinary times: at the brink on so many levels.


Slava Ukraine - this has been a wake-up for the west RW.

And the only good thing about all this turmoil and sheer suffering of innocent people is that the west has woken up somewhat and has never been more united since WW2. We have all come together. It's a pity it came about as result of this stupid war.

Ukraine is fighting for all of us. And their sheer character and strength has been an inspiration.
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Re: $300 billion can buy a lot of arms for Ukraine

Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:26 am

NUKE that trash already!

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