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Postby Bananiot » Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:57 am

I couldn't agree more. Dionysios Solomos wrote the greek national anthem and he also said a very big truth: "What is true is also good for the national interest" he wrote.

If what Anastasiades and many others are saying is true then the truth needs to surface. It will do good not harm. Hiding the truth because it "hurts national interests" is an outmoded policy that stings. To suggest that he bombed himself is also absurd and to insinuate that he is a crook because his brother is a crook is beyond logic. At least his brother was convicted and I do not know another incidence in Cyprus where a relative of a politician has gone to jail.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:05 am

The problem is that Anastasiades is not saying the truth but he is lying.

The misinformation came from the "yes" leading supporters, but we did not ask to convict them for this, did we? Did we sent Anastasiades to the court for his opinion about the A plan?

Anastasiades believes everybody that disagrees with him should be convicted and jailed. He didn't realize that we have democracy.

Both "yes" and "no" supporters were all over the TV, radio and newspapers. Everybody knows all arguments for and against the A plan.
Most people have decided to vote "no". Is this so hard for you and Anastasiades to accept? Is it so hard to accept democracy?
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Postby brother » Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:12 pm

How can you decide that unless he is given the chance to prove it, and calling him a liar is not constructive.

Maybe piratis is not ready to hear another truth or just scared or maybe afraid that it will harm the national interest, but one must remember the saying: there are two sides to a story.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:26 pm

How can you decide that unless he is given the chance to prove it, and calling him a liar is not constructive.


I know he is a lier because Cyprus is small and I live here. We know who he is and his history well. If you want to believe him thats your choice. Me and the majority of Greek Cypriots do not believe him.

Maybe piratis is not ready to hear another truth or just scared or maybe afraid that it will harm the national interest, but one must remember the saying: there are two sides to a story.


He is on the radio and TV stations every day. We hear his stories and his lies all the time. Nobody silenced him, right? In the same way I could start saying that your mother is a whore and you wouldn't be able to stop me from saying such lies, the same way nobody can stop the lies of Anastasiades.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:45 pm

The trouble with Anastasiades is that he is a hot head and is not suited to be a political leader. He talks first, then thinks later.

So far he has been proved wrong in his arguments. All he ever does is to put down the government and rather than being constructive in his approach, I feel that he is destructive. Anastasiades seems to think that democracy means that if you are in opposition, you are obliged to argue against the government on every single issue!

TC's may like him, but that is because he generally says what they want to hear rather than taking a measured and more even handed approach.

There are faults in the way the government has handled certain things but to put the blanket accusation that all is done just for Papadopoulos' self interest I think is plain wrong.

He is having to make some very difficult decisions and he knows that the stakes are high. I will repeat that I would not underestimate this man. I had my doubts at the beginning but I think the way he has handled things on the international stage have been measured and no one can deny that so far the doom-mongerers have been wrong!
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Postby MicAtCyp » Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:02 pm

Bananiot wrote: If what Anastasiades and many others are saying is true then the truth needs to surface. It will do good not harm. Hiding the truth because it "hurts national interests" is an outmoded policy that stings.


The problem here is that the truth was never hidden. All the events Anastasiades rested his case upon were know to everybody.And they were all remote incidents!And could never change the result of the referendum not even by one iota.
Nobody disagrees that democracy flourishes with the truth surfaces!
Was however Anastasiades sueing at the EU court an effort to let the truth surface, or an effort to artificially extend it as to make it look as if it was the general rule? Or an effort to give weapons to those who would like to punish us?
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:11 pm

Tell us about "the son of Sampson" going to the occupied areas first. Did you see him?
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Postby brother » Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:35 pm

Firstly piratis there is no reason for such extreme examples but as you know cyprus is small and even so chinese whispers are rife.

Also if you where to lie about me i would sue you firstly for slander, so there is plenty i can do to you.

As such if the man is lying what is the goverment doing about it, nothing and that i find worrying.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:42 pm

Bananiot wrote: Tell us about "the son of Sampson" going to the occupied areas first. Did you see him?


Go make a search in Politis and you will find it. That was news!

Despite of that what is your difficulty answering my last post?
The fact that you identify yourself as one of them?
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Postby MicAtCyp » Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:03 pm

OK Bananiot,
I spared you some time.Heres some preliminary information

http://www.cyprusmedianet.com/EN/article/11390

DISY goes to the occupied territory

Both Mrs. Clerides and the deputy president of DISY, Averof Neophytou claimed that the realisation of the proposal in question constituted a bold task with a positive impact on our national issue. They both supported that we should see in person the enclaved and then, we should arrange for contacts with the Turkish Cypriots. According to our information, the MPs G. Georgiou, El. Theoharous, R. Erotokritou, S. Sampson and I. Nikolaou presented arguments in favour of Mrs. Clerides’ proposal during the discussion.
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