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[metecyp]

You seem to call your politicians 'traitors' if they have an opinion you disagree with?

That's what I was wondering myself...I don't like this whole labelling people traitors business anyway. This happenned a lot in the north until recently and the TCs got through that phase of 'traitors'. It seems that GCs need more time.

Also what does the word Bananiot mean?

Citizen of a Banana Republic.

[mehmet]

Yes Iskismet,

the term traitor is easily applied in Cyprus. EOKA used it as a justification to kill Greek Cypriots from the 1950s. I used to be at school with the children of Greek Cypriot communists who also had to live in exile. I started a thread on this forum to try and understand this mentality and although I understand it I don't agree with it and it is part of the problem we have.

[iskismet]

Bananiot - I like that one!

So when a person in Cyprus is called a traitor they don't mean it literally. It is just a work they use. We wouldn't use that word in that way in the UK.

What word is used for a person who really is a traitor?

And is General Grivas considered to be a traitor for the way he acted with Greece and against Cyprus in helping to organise the fight for enosis?

[Piratis]

The term traitor has been misused in the past when democracy was not functioning properly. This doesn't mean that traitors never existed or do not exist today. They existed (e.g. Grivas as iskismet said) and they exist (e.g. Anastasiades as MicAtCyp said)

[iskismet]

Hi Piratis - please excuse my ignorence but who is Anastasiades and is he a literal or a non literal traitor?

[Piratis]

He is the leader of DYSI, the party that gave home to most EOKA-B members (Grivas supporters).

[iskismet]

Thanks

[Bananiot]

Piratis labels at will as traitors, all those that disagree with him. He has called me traitor many times in this forum, so many I have lost count. I am a traitor because I supported and still support that the A plan is the only pragmatic possibility for a solution to the aging cyprob. He thinks Anastasiades is a traitor and Vasiliou and Papapetrou and Klerides, for the same reason. Many unrepentant coupists (EOLA B members) are found in other parties, besides DISI at the moment. The majority of them can be found in the new party called European Democracy (or something to that effect) and quite a few are in New Horisons party.

In general, leftists will be quite happy to support the Secretary General's plan, given a few minor changes regarding security and safeguards in the implementation of the plan. Many decent right wing people in DISI will also support the plan as well as the New Democrats of Vasiliou. All these people are traitors according to the cretin ideology and hence it is quite obvious that the term is used to dissuate bananiots fron voting for a solution to our problem. The hard core agitators of a no solution prefer to see Cyprus divided. Partitioned for ever. They have almost succeded, one more push from Papadopoulos will do it!

[Piratis]

Again, Bananiot insist on his lies.

So Bananiot, show me just one of the "so many you lost count" times I labeled somebody a traitor that I did so because of his choice in the referendum.

I really have no time to waste with such lies, but obviously you can only argue with lies since you have no real arguments.

In general, leftists will be quite happy to support the Secretary General's plan, given a few minor changes regarding security and safeguards in the implementation of the plan.

Says who? I voted for AKEL some times, and I have a ton of family members that always voted for AKEL. Out of this "ton" just 1 voted and he is willing to vote for the A plan without major changes.

Many decent right wing people in DISI will also support the plan as well as the New Democrats of Vasiliou.

The number that supported the plan is well known: 24%. This will not change significantly with minor changes.

Many unrepentant coupists (EOLA B members) are found in other parties, besides DISI at the moment. The majority of them can be found in the new party called European Democracy (or something to that effect) and quite a few are in New Horisons party.

The majority of them are in "European Democracy" ? Like whom for example? Isn't Samson in Disi? Isn't Karras in Disi? Which one moved out of Disi?

[MicAtCyp]

From the link Insan quoted about the National Anthem

Answering a Turkish Cypriot journalist’s question about the Greek Cypriot national anthem, Vassiliou said, "there would be a need to compose a state national anthem in the event of a federal solution to the Cyprus problem, one which would be acceptable to all citizens of the Republic."
Upon hearing this news the Greek Cypriot politicians and the media launched a strong attack on Vassilou, some of them called for his resignation as the negotiator for the EU accession.

Does any GreekCypriot remember anything like that???