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[insan]

Don't ever try to offer abolishment of Greek National Anthem in South. You may end up with a grenade attack by Chrissi Avgi nad emotional violance of GC extremists.


That's why Vasiliou has been declared as one of the "traitors".


http://www.tcn-cy.freeuk.com/anthem.htm




I agree with metecyp, both parties have responsibilities and mistakes regarding the reasons of Cyprus problem; nevertheless they also have responsibilities and mistakes which led the Cypriots suffer a lot for more than 40 years.


The RoC as a state which claims that it's the only legal legal regime and represents whole Cypriots/Cyprus should have fixed its mistakes at least from 80s untill early 2000s but unfortunately the well known mentality of some political groups hasn't changed yet. And unfortunately, with this mentality; it's not possible to reach an joint acceptable, viable solution in near future.

[michalis5354]

Yes the National Anthem is a big irregularity along with all other irregularities like the Foreign troops and interventions rights of Foreigners , this give us a strong signal I think not to accept any other kind of Irregularity in the future that will be proposed to us!

[michalis5354]

That's why Vasiliou has been declared as one of the "traitors".

Vasiliou has never been declared as one of the traitors. He took a different approach at the last referendums some have criticised him , but this issue has been over.

I respect Vasiliou of all the hard work he had achieved all these years I think many think the same with me. The criticism he received was only at the last referendums.

[brother]

If unity does happen then we can then talk about the national anthem rather than stirring up feelings.

[MicAtCyp]

I was not saying that the RC is the real Hellenic State. I was trying to stress that it is not bicommunal as it is supposed to be. GCs make all the decisions and they don't necessarily consider TC wishes/desires when they make decisions. The Greek national anthem, the Asia Minor genocide law, etc. prove that the GCs don't feel obliged to consider TC wishes in their decision making and this is wrong.

You are correct on that. I could add a hundred more arguments in support of yours. But we do know the reason don't we? Absense of checks and balances due to the absense of the TCs from the decision making process. It's not only hard/difficult to observe the rights of someone who is not there, sometimes it's even impossible. I wish one day all these change via a solution.

[metecyp]

It's not only hard/difficult to observe the rights of someone who is not there, sometimes it's even impossible. I wish one day all these change via a solution.

I agree that TCs also somewhat share the responsibility by their absence in the RC. However, I believe that a truly bicommunal RC or at least an intention of making it bicommnal will greatly help for a solution. As a TC, if I see that the RC really cares about me, I feel safe and secure in going to the "free areas" working, I see that decisions are being taken considering my community as well, then there's no reason for me not to consider the RC or at least a form of it to be part of a solution. On the other hand, the Greek national anthem along with the RC flag or the Asia minor genocide law makes me question what kind of a solution I'm being offerred by the RC.

[brother]

Yes a goodwill gesture does go a long way, so really it is to be seen if the ROC will make that leap of faith to unite our island.

[metecyp]

Yes a goodwill gesture does go a long way, so really it is to be seen if the ROC will make that leap of faith to unite our island.

This is not a "goodwill gesture". This is something that the Republic of Cyprus has to do. They're the ones claiming to be legal and abolishing the Greek national anthem is fulfillment of claims of legality not a goodwill gesture.

[brother]

I understand where you coming from, but if we were to do everything by the law, there is a lot of things we will have to do.
I hear you say like what.......well for instance on the 'Bes Parmak Daglari' we have a message which is designed to rub salt in there wounds, enticing the people, now that is wrong aswell is it not, and to add to the insult we added lights to it to make sure they can see it at night.(and please remember i only used that as an example)

We know what we want but we must also remember their needs to as the issue of the cyprus anthem will get sorted out by our elected leaders as and when we unite, anything before we unite is premature unless they do it as a goodwill gesture.

[-mikkie2-]

And wouldn't it be a great gesture if that abomination of a flag on Pendadactylos was removed? Lets get real here. The RoC is slowly giving space to the TC's to interact with their brothers in the south. Your regime though is so spiteful it refuses to accept any leway until we capitulate on everything just so that we can accomodate the TC's at the expense of everyone else.

I agree that having the Greek national anthem is not particularly good but if the TC's still refuse to accept the RoC exists and continue to stay away from it, then frankly there is not much that can be done. At least the flag of the RoC was designed by a TC. If we were that spiteful towards you then I would have expected that flag to be replaced with something more 'hellenic'. But it hasn't. So what does that tell you?