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[Kikapu]

Soccer (football) in the USA is an afterthought sport and was rejected for a very long time, but not by the people so much, but by the TV stations as they could not have commercials during the game unlike American football, Baseball, Basketball and Ice hockey. Officially American football has 60 minutes playing time with 4 quarters, but it takes about 3 hours for the game to finish, which allows TV commercial to run for two hours. Baseball can take 3 hours to midnight and even continue the next day if no one has won the game, generating lots of commercials with all that time. All the sports rules in America are designed around being able to stop the game every few minutes to allow for commercials and almost every game in on free TV or radio live, unlike soccer, which is mainly on paid TV since they cannot run traditional commercials during the 45 minutes of each half. In the early days they were cutting away from the international live soccer games for commercials. How annoying was that for the true soccer fans?

At the Professional level, American Football, Baseball, Basketball and Ice Hockey are very entertaining sports for the viewer, especially watching it on TV since some sports are very technical like American Football to see what has happened, which is why many fans for American Football and Baseball listen to the game live on their little transistor radios into their ears when at the stadium watching these games.

The draft system works well for the above 4 major sports in the USA, but doesn’t really work well for soccer. The person being drafted has a very special skill which the team drafting him can use in certain designed plays and then they come off the field after that play is over. In soccer, such special skill does not exist since all the players are playing together in one continuous game. Good talents in Soccer comes from years of experience as a team player and not a one play specialist. That is why many almost retired international soccer players are recruited into American Soccer teams to elevate the game to higher standards for big money.

American sports fans are mostly fixed in their ways though, to watch different sports at different seasons in the year as they move from one season to another with different sports. Soccer does not fit that bill for them and it is not in their DNA as it is in most parts of the world because they grow up with a soccer ball, hence those who are really interested in soccer, they need to watch it on paid TV if they are really interested by dishing out so much money when the sports most Americans really enjoy are free and live on regular TV. You just need to watch hours and hours of commercials in between plays!

[Paphitis]

Soccer (football) in the USA is an afterthought sport and was rejected for a very long time, but not by the people so much, but by the TV stations as they could not have commercials during the game unlike American football, Baseball, Basketball and Ice hockey. Officially American football has 60 minutes playing time with 4 quarters, but it takes about 3 hours for the game to finish, which allows TV commercial to run for two hours. Baseball can take 3 hours to midnight and even continue the next day if no one has won the game, generating lots of commercials with all that time. All the sports rules in America are designed around being able to stop the game every few minutes to allow for commercials and almost every game in on free TV or radio live, unlike soccer, which is mainly on paid TV since they cannot run traditional commercials during the 45 minutes of each half. In the early days they were cutting away from the international live soccer games for commercials. How annoying was that for the true soccer fans?

At the Professional level, American Football, Baseball, Basketball and Ice Hockey are very entertaining sports for the viewer, especially watching it on TV since some sports are very technical like American Football to see what has happened, which is why many fans for American Football and Baseball listen to the game live on their little transistor radios into their ears when at the stadium watching these games.

The draft system works well for the above 4 major sports in the USA, but doesn’t really work well for soccer. The person being drafted has a very special skill which the team drafting him can use in certain designed plays and then they come off the field after that play is over. In soccer, such special skill does not exist since all the players are playing together in one continuous game. Good talents in Soccer comes from years of experience as a team player and not a one play specialist. That is why many almost retired international soccer players are recruited into American Soccer teams to elevate the game to higher standards for big money.

American sports fans are mostly fixed in their ways though, to watch different sports at different seasons in the year as they move from one season to another with different sports. Soccer does not fit that bill for them and it is not in their DNA as it is in most parts of the world because they grow up with a soccer ball, hence those who are really interested in soccer, they need to watch it on paid TV if they are really interested by dishing out so much money when the sports most Americans really enjoy are free and live on regular TV. You just need to watch hours and hours of commercials in between plays!

the draft system has worked real well for Soccer in Australia and Merika. it results in a vibrant and unpredictable team, where every club is competitive.

I agree that it isn't part of their DNA in the form you know it. Merikans and Australians need to administer the sport to cater ton their needs and market which is why they have finals footy and the draft.

You are correct, in that the average European League will fail in Merika and Australia. They need to adapt the sport to suit the American and Australian psyche. Having 1 team win the comp year after year for 10 years just wouldn't wash. having defensive teams will not wash. They need a more physical and fast pace type of Football and a bit more rough and touble.

The sport is gaining traction over the years and both countries have had a lot of success. Especially Australia as it has won the Asia Cup.

The other good measuruing stick is that both countries are countries which can successfully host the world cup tomorrow if they had to. not many can boast that. The stadia and infrastructure is world class.

[Lordo]

Soccer (football) in the USA is an afterthought sport and was rejected for a very long time, but not by the people so much, but by the TV stations as they could not have commercials during the game unlike American football, Baseball, Basketball and Ice hockey. Officially American football has 60 minutes playing time with 4 quarters, but it takes about 3 hours for the game to finish, which allows TV commercial to run for two hours. Baseball can take 3 hours to midnight and even continue the next day if no one has won the game, generating lots of commercials with all that time. All the sports rules in America are designed around being able to stop the game every few minutes to allow for commercials and almost every game in on free TV or radio live, unlike soccer, which is mainly on paid TV since they cannot run traditional commercials during the 45 minutes of each half. In the early days they were cutting away from the international live soccer games for commercials. How annoying was that for the true soccer fans? .....
American sports fans are mostly fixed in their ways though, to watch different sports at different seasons in the year as they move from one season to another with different sports. Soccer does not fit that bill for them and it is not in their DNA as it is in most parts of the world because they grow up with a soccer ball, hence those who are really interested in soccer, they need to watch it on paid TV if they are really interested by dishing out so much money when the sports most Americans really enjoy are free and live on regular TV. You just need to watch hours and hours of commercials in between plays!

I agree with everything you say but even if all that is sorted out to improve the game there is a very good reason outside of that which stops their national team improve. They have been stuck at this level for decades. Either their local players play against top class players in their own league, or their local players play in the top league of Europe. USA as far as I can tell had one top player that plays for Chelsea and their shit team at the moment, and they also have a second player that plays for Arsenal, but he is not first choice goalkeeper and I suspect will not ever be good enough to be first choice. Not in the next 4 years at least.

[Kikapu]

Soccer (football) in the USA is an afterthought sport and was rejected for a very long time, but not by the people so much, but by the TV stations as they could not have commercials during the game unlike American football, Baseball, Basketball and Ice hockey. Officially American football has 60 minutes playing time with 4 quarters, but it takes about 3 hours for the game to finish, which allows TV commercial to run for two hours. Baseball can take 3 hours to midnight and even continue the next day if no one has won the game, generating lots of commercials with all that time. All the sports rules in America are designed around being able to stop the game every few minutes to allow for commercials and almost every game in on free TV or radio live, unlike soccer, which is mainly on paid TV since they cannot run traditional commercials during the 45 minutes of each half. In the early days they were cutting away from the international live soccer games for commercials. How annoying was that for the true soccer fans? .....
American sports fans are mostly fixed in their ways though, to watch different sports at different seasons in the year as they move from one season to another with different sports. Soccer does not fit that bill for them and it is not in their DNA as it is in most parts of the world because they grow up with a soccer ball, hence those who are really interested in soccer, they need to watch it on paid TV if they are really interested by dishing out so much money when the sports most Americans really enjoy are free and live on regular TV. You just need to watch hours and hours of commercials in between plays!

I agree with everything you say but even if all that is sorted out to improve the game there is a very good reason outside of that which stops their national team improve. They have been stuck at this level for decades. Either their local players play against top class players in their own league, or their local players play in the top league of Europe. USA as far as I can tell had one top player that plays for Chelsea and their shit team at the moment, and they also have a second player that plays for Arsenal, but he is not first choice goalkeeper and I suspect will not ever be good enough to be first choice. Not in the next 4 years at least.

Watching the Netherlands vs USA game yesterday, the announcer stated that USA has only won one game out of 11 games outside the USA. The other 10 games were either a loss or a tie. With such record, they cannot advance any further than qualifying level.

Oh one more thing, the same announcer stated that Netherlands haven’t lost their last 18 games against a non European teams before last night’s game.

What contrast?

[Lordo]

Why does most names in Croatia end with an ich? Is there lots of nettles there?

[Londonrake]

England v France tactics revealed:

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[Londonrake]

If FIFA ran athletics.

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[Lordo]

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=5557084511074859

[Paphitis]

Soccer (football) in the USA is an afterthought sport and was rejected for a very long time, but not by the people so much, but by the TV stations as they could not have commercials during the game unlike American football, Baseball, Basketball and Ice hockey. Officially American football has 60 minutes playing time with 4 quarters, but it takes about 3 hours for the game to finish, which allows TV commercial to run for two hours. Baseball can take 3 hours to midnight and even continue the next day if no one has won the game, generating lots of commercials with all that time. All the sports rules in America are designed around being able to stop the game every few minutes to allow for commercials and almost every game in on free TV or radio live, unlike soccer, which is mainly on paid TV since they cannot run traditional commercials during the 45 minutes of each half. In the early days they were cutting away from the international live soccer games for commercials. How annoying was that for the true soccer fans? .....
American sports fans are mostly fixed in their ways though, to watch different sports at different seasons in the year as they move from one season to another with different sports. Soccer does not fit that bill for them and it is not in their DNA as it is in most parts of the world because they grow up with a soccer ball, hence those who are really interested in soccer, they need to watch it on paid TV if they are really interested by dishing out so much money when the sports most Americans really enjoy are free and live on regular TV. You just need to watch hours and hours of commercials in between plays!

I agree with everything you say but even if all that is sorted out to improve the game there is a very good reason outside of that which stops their national team improve. They have been stuck at this level for decades. Either their local players play against top class players in their own league, or their local players play in the top league of Europe. USA as far as I can tell had one top player that plays for Chelsea and their shit team at the moment, and they also have a second player that plays for Arsenal, but he is not first choice goalkeeper and I suspect will not ever be good enough to be first choice. Not in the next 4 years at least.

Watching the Netherlands vs USA game yesterday, the announcer stated that USA has only won one game out of 11 games outside the USA. The other 10 games were either a loss or a tie. With such record, they cannot advance any further than qualifying level.

Oh one more thing, the same announcer stated that Netherlands haven’t lost their last 18 games against a non European teams before last night’s game.

What contrast?

All teams go through their cycles. Australia for instance is the weakest team in the last 3 decades because they are building now and bringing through many young players with no experience.

The question is, are Australia and US competitive with the best, or are they minnows. The answer to this question is that they are competitive and no minnows. Both countries are very successful teams internationally. They are not easily beaten, even by the best teams in the world. And they will cause havoc with most European teams like Greece, Turkey, Austria, Switzerland, Denmark, and many more which places them both as quite good middle Football powers for lack of a better term.

The reason for their success? Well Soccer is actually quite popular in both countries now in terms of participation and both Governments fund the sport with a lot of money, to have training programs and build stadia. The sports are very well run and organised.

[Lordo]

There is the proof if ever needed. You don't have to play football to win a football game. Why does a European referee a game when a European team is playing. Is there no other referees around the world.