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[Londonrake]

whilst the US has done quite a bit of it’s own in the way of invading, I don’t think they’ve annexed a country. At least not since the original formation of the US (19th century?).

What do you mean formation of the US?? The declaration of independence was in 1746 and ever since they annexed most of Mexico including Texas, California and many other of their current states, then Hawaii, and just recently they wanted to buy Iceland. Buy from who??
It makes no sense for the US to annex countries they invaded recently e.g. Iraq, Afghanistan etc while it makes perfect sense to steal their resources via other methods.

1776 actually. But let's not quibble.

I don't think they annexed Mexico. The parts of it they did, like Hawaii, were back in the 19th century I believe and I did say "since the original formation". Meaning of course, the place as we know it today. As always the background to it all is probably a lot less simplistic and life's too short to spend time studying a war between Mexico and the US that took place over 150 years ago as some sort of point scoring exercise. Anyway, I get the impression the Mexicans have gotten their own back. They've been flooding over the Rio Grande since WW2. Some 36 million live in the US these days I hear.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that about 80% of Ukraine's - quite rich - natural resources are located in the regions recently taken over by Russia.

I got the impression the US spent trillions of dollars in an almost decade long war that resulted, in essence, with their giving third party control of Iraq's oil to Iran.

Does the US have control of Afghanistan's natural resources? I thought they abandoned the place to its 7th century fate 18 months ago?

Surely, the buying Iceland thing was a ROFLMAO Trumpism? Although of course the US bought Alaska.

Anyway, there are so many anti-US posts on this forum it's difficult to keep up. They seem to permeate a majority of threads. Not to mention, preventing other contemporary events getting an appropriate airing. It's beyond obsessive.

I wasn't holding my breathe for comments on the Chinese managing to absorb Tibet without it counting as a war.

[Londonrake]

I actually warned Lordo that Cyprus is worse of a Sineland than the UK, so I wouldn't mind. But if you can't stand what he says, I can understand it.

The point is you have this passion of diverting every topic out of the issue, concentrating on who the person is, what he said before, how bad of a character is, how much of a hypocrite he is and all that stuff.

I have to - hopefully without sounding patronising - disagree with you. I've always found (outside forums of course ) the majority of Cypriot people to be refreshingly warm and almost invariably friendly. If I felt like Mr L I wouldn't be living here. There are lots of swine in Cyprus but they tend to get BBQd.

It isn't so much hearing the UK slagged off - as the token Brit (regular poster anyway) on a Cypriot forum it would be naïve of me to expect less. It's the incessant "Swine/Swineland" shit. A daily diet. I can't believe I'm the only one who gets pissed off with it. That, plus the fact it's coming from somebody who's lived in the UK for 50+ years and clearly done extremely well out of it.

Anyway. I'm making an effort not to be what you perceive as personally antagonistic, although I'll make no concessions for Lordo. IMHO, he makes himself a legitimate target - for the moment. Reasonableness begets the reasonable.

To be fair. Just about the only one who posts regularly and in-your-face from a pro-Ukrainian stance is of course Paphitis (RW being a gentleman). Whilst he has a particularly "enthusiastic" way of expressing his views if you look back you'll find few of you pro-Russian types have held back when it comes to a frank exchange of personal opinions.

If what people say in the past contradicts something they post in the present I think it's reasonable to highlight it. I include myself of course. Nobody's perfect.

[Pyrpolizer]

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that about 80% of Ukraine's - quite rich - natural resources are located in the regions recently taken over by Russia.

Yes it is a coincidence. However when those lands were included in the Soviet administrative district called "Ukraine" it was not a coincidence. The Soviets wanted the district to have it's own industrial power because the rest of Ukraine was basically agrarian.

it's laughable to hear ZelenSKY and his western partners telling us they are fighting for their "country", when in reality they are fighting for lands and properties that historically belonged to ethnic Russians, who for the last 30 years they are pushing out towards Russia. Let aside the Nazi practices they imposed on them during the past 9 years.
They even brag publicly that they'd need a new census to find out how many Russians are still alive in the areas they recaptured, after imposing extensive clean up operations of the so called "collaborators"...

[repulsewarrior]

The ultimate question in life is in any situation is International law Broken or not and if yes, who is the biggest culprit on earth.

Perhaps watching to this war monger may open some eyes and ears. In good time we can go back in the more recent history and examine it. We need not go back any further than WW2. There are plenty of examples in here.

Perhaps this can remains a bit more civilised when compared with other threads.

"...this is the beauty of Democracy" he says. And so it is.

Few countries have the capacity to do more than sustain the powers they have. Only in (a rich and powerful) Democracy do the People have the capacity to look so deeply within themselves (as well).

[Lordo]

The ultimate question in life is in any situation is International law Broken or not and if yes, who is the biggest culprit on earth.

Perhaps watching to this war monger may open some eyes and ears. In good time we can go back in the more recent history and examine it. We need not go back any further than WW2. There are plenty of examples in here.

Perhaps this can remains a bit more civilised when compared with other threads.

"...this is the beauty of Democracy" he says. And so it is.

Few countries have the capacity to do more than sustain the powers they have. Only in (a rich and powerful) Democracy do the People have the capacity to look so deeply within themselves (as well).

There is nothing democratic in what America does. All they do is 5 year dictatorships and even when parties change the policies do not. America is not run by political parties, it is run by corporations.

No democracy what so ever. Even the president can win by not winning majority of the votes.
No wonder America is shit.
A country with no healthcare for all, is shit.

[Maximus]

I Dont understand why pepperami brain doesnt look closer to home.

Turkey and the puppet regime have racked up lots of violations of international law.

I dont know why this ass lint thats one fart away from doing a speedy gonzalez isnt complaining about his own community trafficking "REFUGEES" to eu member states.

Its always about the UK and the americans. Never about the pirates of the med and the illegal psuedo regime in occupied cyprus.

The ultimate question in life? International law? Democracy? You are a hypocrite plonkenswine that cant answer a gcse multiple choice question correctly. Never mind international law through a communists spectacles.

Now close this thread and do what you are good at. go clean the bogs of eternal stench.

[Lordo]

What do you know, Baby Swine is back. What the fuck have I got to do with Turkey. You fuckin racist fascists pig shit. I was born in Cyprus as a British person and lived most of my life in the UK.

Boooooooy go put in a pipe and smoke but through your mouth not your ass you hear me?

BTW Refugees have the right to travel any way they can to any country they wish and claim refugee status.

Shove that up your ass too boy.

[Maximus]

You have got more to do with Turkey than you have got to do with the Americans assenstein

It's quite rich that you complain about the uk's refugee policy while your community leaders have been building a puppet state on stolen property so you can retire in " refugee land." If what you are saying is true, greek cypriots would be going back to their homes but you are full of shit as usual.

International law ffs, you don't even know what a refugee is. You think anyone on an inflatable boat heading to Britain or the Eu is a refugee. Ffs.

Now go clean that bog of eternal stench and close this thread.

[Lordo]

Aaaaaaany way more of International Law

In 1975 it was revealed by the Church Committee (United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities) that the United States had covertly intervened in Chile from as early as 1962, and that from 1963 to 1973, covert involvement was "extensive and continuous".

In 1970, at the request of President Richard Nixon, the CIA planned a "constitutional coup" to prevent the election of Marxist leader Salvador Allende in Chile, while secretly encouraging Chilean Armed Forces generals to act against him. The CIA changed its approach after the murder of Chilean general René Schneider, offering aid to democratic protestors and other Chilean dissidents. Allende was accused of supporting armed groups, torturing detainees, conducting illegal arrests, and muzzling the press. However, Peter Kornbluh asserts that the CIA destabilized Chile and helped create the conditions for the 1973 Chilean coup d'état, which led to years of dictatorship under Augusto Pinochet.

[Lordo]

And another

From 1972 to 1975, the CIA armed Kurdish rebels fighting the Ba'athist government of Iraq.

In 1973, Nixon authorized Operation Nickel Grass, an overt strategic airlift to deliver weapons and supplies to Israel during the Yom Kippur War, after the Soviet Union began sending arms to Syria and Egypt. The same year, Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi claimed the Gulf of Sidra as sovereign territory and closed the bay, prompting the U.S. to conduct freedom of navigation operations in the area, as it saw Libya's claims as internationally illegitimate. The dispute resulted in Libyan-U.S. confrontations, including an incident in 1981 in which two U.S. F-14 Tomcats shot down two Libyan Su-22 Fitters over the gulf.

In response to purported Libyan involvement in international terrorism, specifically the 1985 Rome and Vienna airport attacks, the Reagan administration launched Operation Attain Document in early 1986, which saw operations in March 1986 that killed 72 Libyans and destroyed multiple boats and SAM sites. In April 1986, the U.S. bombed Libya again, killing over 40 Libyan soldiers and up to 30 civilians. The U.S. shot down two Libyan Air Force MiG-23 fighters 40 miles (64 km) north of Tobruk in 1989.