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[Paphitis]

The Greek Coast Guard were simply doing their job and enforcing the law within their territorial waters.

Bottom line is that these illegal migrants are breaking the law, and the Hellenic Coastguard have the right to impede their journey and stop them from landing in Greece.

There is a proper way to enter Greece, through the front door.

There is no other way of dealing with this issue without opening the flood gates by rewarding the law breakers.

If anything, Hellenic Coastguard is far too tame.

Try doing this in Australia, or Merika and see what happens.

If anyone doesn't know what I am talking about, google TAMPA Crisis and see for yourselves. A Norwegian Registered vessel was obstructed from entering Australian Waters with 433 rescued illegal migrants on board. Not even allowed to get medical assistance except for that which was provided by Royal Australian Navy in International Waters.

Ans they were boarded by SAS.

Also, the UK wants to adopt Australia's zero tolerance. It's probably a good thing they left the EU.

[Londonrake]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... ands-spain

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[MR-from-NG]

The Greek Coast Guard were simply doing their job and enforcing the law within their territorial waters.

Bottom line is that these illegal migrants are breaking the law, and the Hellenic Coastguard have the right to impede their journey and stop them from landing in Greece.

There is a proper way to enter Greece, through the front door.

There is no other way of dealing with this issue without opening the flood gates by rewarding the law breakers.

If anything, Hellenic Coastguard is far too tame.

Try doing this in Australia, or Merika and see what happens.

If anyone doesn't know what I am talking about, google TAMPA Crisis and see for yourselves. A Norwegian Registered vessel was obstructed from entering Australian Waters with 433 rescued illegal migrants on board. Not even allowed to get medical assistance except for that which was provided by Royal Australian Navy in International Waters.

Ans they were boarded by SAS.

Also, the UK wants to adopt Australia's zero tolerance. It's probably a good thing they left the EU.

Wouldn't expect anything but from a fascist nation. Oh and fuck your Meryykaaa too

[Lordo]

Like I said this will be investigated and soon we shall find out but you have to realise that Greek Coastguard have been filmed trying to sink a boat using a pole to puncture the skin and were also filmed hitting refugees with a pole and pushing them away using the pole. They were also filmed passing a boat at high speed to create a wave to try to sink it. These guys have form on this.

The vast majority of those videos are staged from the Turks.

So are you saying the clip I posted is false and never took place? How was it staged?

Fyi I 've seen videos showing Turkish border guards shooting at refugees who couldn't cross the Evros river at the North of Greece, and were trying to go back to Turkey.
I wouldn't take any of those at face value.

Erdogan has an agreement not to allow any refugees to cross over to Northern Greece, and they will take no prisoners with that regards

Let's analyze the video you posted: It talks of refugees, sailing from the coast of Bodrum heading towards Greek island Kos.

For a start no EU Country has open borders policy either for refugees or not refugees. And the Coast Guard has a duty to repel anyone who tries to cross over illegally,

There is nothing illegal about refugees crossing borders, the are protected by International Law with or without paperwork via official ports or otherwise

either they are refugees or not refugees. Otherwise what's the purpose of having a Coast Guard? To "Hoshgeldin" everyone??

The purpose of the coast guard is to protect the coast from illegal activities not to hurt refugees

I think the only exception is when the life of those people is at risk.

I would say being stuck on a boat for 7 hours without moving showed how their life was in danger

Secondly there is no evidence those people were refugees.

A refugee does not have to have any evidence that they are refugee. if you are escaping from terror, you do not have time to pick up paperwork and certainly should not have any paperwork because if the police find them before they left their country they are in for hell

Notice the incident happened at the exact borderline against only the boat that tried to cross. The 2nd boat was just filming from a safe distance probably within the Turkish territorial waters. I 'd bet they were all regular Turkish citizens on stage.

I will look at it again but I saw one boat going fast to try to overturn themand the hitting them with a pole

Thirdly notice that those "refugees" presumably sailed from Bodrum which is 16 Km from the nearest Greek Island Kos. What kind of crazy "refugees" were they, risking their lives for such a long trip while there are hundreds of Greek islands at walking distance from Turkish shores?

But even assuming they had to go to Kos, why should they sail from Bodrum and not from Akyarlar which is only 5 Km away?

You really think the refugees have a choice where they get on the boat?

Now a few words about the EU hypocrites:
a)They currently do have an open border policy only for the Ukrainians. So no Ukrainian has to risk his life going anywhere as a refugee.
b) As soon as a refugee gets asylum status, he has to stay in that specific Country. He cannot move to any other EU country as there is no freedom of movement for these people. Imagine their disappointment realizing that after getting asylum here in Cyprus, they cannot go to their dream lands like Germany or England.
Currently we have about 5% of our population coming as refugees per year!

When a refugee looks for transport, they do not have the luxury of where they are going to go, they will go where ever the gang takes them. But EU did promise to help Southern Europeans countries on the front line and take a fair number of refugees but as you said the bastards are all talk and no action

I must learn to write in another colour.

[Lordo]

The Greek Coast Guard were simply doing their job and enforcing the law within their territorial waters.

Bottom line is that these illegal migrants are breaking the law, and the Hellenic Coastguard have the right to impede their journey and stop them from landing in Greece.

There is a proper way to enter Greece, through the front door.

There is no other way of dealing with this issue without opening the flood gates by rewarding the law breakers.

If anything, Hellenic Coastguard is far too tame.

Try doing this in Australia, or Merika and see what happens.

If anyone doesn't know what I am talking about, google TAMPA Crisis and see for yourselves. A Norwegian Registered vessel was obstructed from entering Australian Waters with 433 rescued illegal migrants on board. Not even allowed to get medical assistance except for that which was provided by Royal Australian Navy in International Waters.

Ans they were boarded by SAS.

Also, the UK wants to adopt Australia's zero tolerance. It's probably a good thing they left the EU.

Wouldn't expect anything but from a fascist nation. Oh and fuck your Meryykaaa too

Bafidi is an asshole

Talking of rescuing people. Notice the treatment these people got and the treatment 5 people are getting who are stuck in a submarine.

The company who built the sub had a complaint about the safety of the sub and got fired from his job.

My my what a world we live in.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/missing-titan-sub-oceangate-fired-worker-who-raised-safety-concerns/ar-AA1cNS42

[Maximus]

its not fascism, its just a policy that you disagree with.

We are talking about illegal immigration here, or in other words, forced or illegitimate entry.

if it continues unchecked, sooner or later, it will reach the limit of most peoples compassion and generosity.

How would you feel or what would you do if people kept turning up and sneaking in to your house. Lounging on your sofa and watching your tv, helping themselves to the food in your fridge and calling their mates over. Using your utilities and then sleeping wherever they find a space because they are "looking for better opportunities".

When you ask them whats up?, they lie to you but you believe them.

I suppose you would turn to your immediate family for a whip round to help pay for it all.

Of course you would.

[Lordo]

I don't know how many times we have to say it. There is no such thing as an illegal refugee with or without papers coming in from official ports or otherwise.

This idea that these refugees are just helping themselves, really. How stupid does one have to be to believe this lie. Refugees are not allowed to work till their granted asylum and in the meantime they are put where ever the government deems suitable whether it is or not and they get 40.85 a week to live on.

Just how brain dead are you?

They would be glad to given a temporary status and let them work for a living. You know, like what we did for the blond people. We even paid up to 500 a week for anybody who would house a refugee.

I just wish some people engaged their brain cell before posting. Get your fucking facts right.

https://www.unhcr.org/uk/asylum-uk#:~:text=Cash%20support%20is%20available%2C%20and%20is%20currently%20set,%C2%A35.84%20a%20day%20for%20food%2C%20sanitation%20and%20clothing.

[Pyrpolizer]

Two interesting articles that may answer a lot of questions:

https://www.unodc.org/toc/en/crimes/mig ... gling.html
https://www.liberties.eu/en/stories/why ... lane/16316

[Maximus]

Most of the people we are talking about here though are NOT refugees.

90-95% of these people are illegal immigrants invoking a bogus refugee or asylum claim.

This is a very significant point which you seem to persistently ignore or it just fails to register with you.

[Lordo]

Two interesting articles that may answer a lot of questions:

https://www.unodc.org/toc/en/crimes/mig ... gling.html
https://www.liberties.eu/en/stories/why ... lane/16316

The second link hits the nail on the head. But it is not just EU after all UK is no longer in the EU. I remember the day clearly they announced that people without a visa are not allowed to board a plane. Add to that Swine has no facilities to be able to apply for asylum unlike for the blond boys and girls.

https://www.worldvision.org/refugees-news-stories/forced-to-flee-top-countries-refugees-coming-from#:~:text=Forced%20to%20flee%3A%20Top%20countries%20refugees%20are%20coming,6%206.%20Myanmar%20%E2%80%93%201.2%20million%20refugees%20

Watch the Chief Sow. How the fuck an individual engage with UNHCR to apply for asylum in the UK. Which fuckin planet are these people from?