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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Lordo » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:59 pm

Finally a bit of info about how the boat was sunk. There were 4 ships and a helicopter in there and saw it all.

https://www.facebook.com/519820384/videos/5877893008981441

"The Greek coast guard approached us and threw us a blue rope. They starting to drag us away The way they were pulling us was not right. We were screaming and screaming. The ship then started leaning to the left, the dock turned the opposite side and then our ship started tipping sideways and sinking.
▪️ We were trying to climb the ship, we wanted to survive.
Coast Guard pulled the trigger. We cried out to them for help They turned their ship around creating a big wave so our ship was completely flipped over. The people on the side of the ship were underneath it. We heard the people in the fortress beating the irons.
The ship is completely sunk "
▪️ Journalist Fallah Elias of the German channel WDR shared on Twitter an absolutely shocking and horrifying testimony of a shipwreck rescued.
https://twitter.com/falahelias/status/1 ... 70322432...
In the video, other survivors from Pakistan confirm that the Greek port guard sank the boat with its tow.
It's not one, it's not two, it's no three, there are already many testimonies that show the Greek Government and the Coast Guard as the only subjects of the wreckage and drowning of hundreds of people at the Gate. Instead of rescuing them, they were pulling the boat with a rope until it was overturned. Probably to get them out of the Greek rescue zone.
Witnesses say about 100 children among the dead.
If this is true, it is the largest homicide crime in Europe's post-war history.
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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby MR-from-NG » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:35 pm

Lordo wrote:Finally a bit of info about how the boat was sunk. There were 4 ships and a helicopter in there and saw it all.

https://www.facebook.com/519820384/videos/5877893008981441

"The Greek coast guard approached us and threw us a blue rope. They starting to drag us away The way they were pulling us was not right. We were screaming and screaming. The ship then started leaning to the left, the dock turned the opposite side and then our ship started tipping sideways and sinking.
▪️ We were trying to climb the ship, we wanted to survive.
Coast Guard pulled the trigger. We cried out to them for help They turned their ship around creating a big wave so our ship was completely flipped over. The people on the side of the ship were underneath it. We heard the people in the fortress beating the irons.
The ship is completely sunk "
▪️ Journalist Fallah Elias of the German channel WDR shared on Twitter an absolutely shocking and horrifying testimony of a shipwreck rescued.
https://twitter.com/falahelias/status/1 ... 70322432...
In the video, other survivors from Pakistan confirm that the Greek port guard sank the boat with its tow.
It's not one, it's not two, it's no three, there are already many testimonies that show the Greek Government and the Coast Guard as the only subjects of the wreckage and drowning of hundreds of people at the Gate. Instead of rescuing them, they were pulling the boat with a rope until it was overturned. Probably to get them out of the Greek rescue zone.
Witnesses say about 100 children among the dead.
If this is true, it is the largest homicide crime in Europe's post-war history.

I had no doubt these racist cunts were 100% responsible for this tragedy. Illegal immigrants they may have been. Pakistanis they may have been. They may have been a burden on the Greek economy, they may even in time have taken a few jobs away from the cunts, and caused a housing shortage. Think of all the bad things of them that you can. Now close your eyes and just imagine the horror these people lived through in their dying moments. Barbaric cunts. The worst kind you can imagine. May all that perished in the hands of these cunts RIP.You did not deserve this you poor souls. :( :( :(
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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Maximus » Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:25 pm

The Greek coast guard may have tried to tow the boat, that does not mean they intentionally tried to sink it. It could mean that they attempted to tow it to safety.

You see, how you want to make it everyone elses fault but theirs....due to the stupid choice they made.

At the end of the day, these people and the people who tried to smuggle them are responsible for the tragedy they brought to themselves and another nations shores.

Not that they deserve to die but they are stupid people, a danger to themselves and to others.

The Greek coast gaurd who may have been towing them to safety is now allegedly responsible for the tragedy because they were put in a situation where they were expected to help.

This is but one of the consequences for trying to help stupid people.
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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Londonrake » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:09 pm

Lordo wrote:If this is true, it is the largest homicide crime in Europe's post-war history.


Really?

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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Lordo » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:50 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Lordo wrote:Finally a bit of info about how the boat was sunk. There were 4 ships and a helicopter in there and saw it all.

https://www.facebook.com/519820384/videos/5877893008981441

"The Greek coast guard approached us and threw us a blue rope. They starting to drag us away The way they were pulling us was not right. We were screaming and screaming. The ship then started leaning to the left, the dock turned the opposite side and then our ship started tipping sideways and sinking.
▪️ We were trying to climb the ship, we wanted to survive.
Coast Guard pulled the trigger. We cried out to them for help They turned their ship around creating a big wave so our ship was completely flipped over. The people on the side of the ship were underneath it. We heard the people in the fortress beating the irons.
The ship is completely sunk "
▪️ Journalist Fallah Elias of the German channel WDR shared on Twitter an absolutely shocking and horrifying testimony of a shipwreck rescued.
https://twitter.com/falahelias/status/1 ... 70322432...
In the video, other survivors from Pakistan confirm that the Greek port guard sank the boat with its tow.
It's not one, it's not two, it's no three, there are already many testimonies that show the Greek Government and the Coast Guard as the only subjects of the wreckage and drowning of hundreds of people at the Gate. Instead of rescuing them, they were pulling the boat with a rope until it was overturned. Probably to get them out of the Greek rescue zone.
Witnesses say about 100 children among the dead.
If this is true, it is the largest homicide crime in Europe's post-war history.

I had no doubt these racist cunts were 100% responsible for this tragedy. Illegal immigrants they may have been. Pakistanis they may have been. They may have been a burden on the Greek economy, they may even in time have taken a few jobs away from the cunts, and caused a housing shortage. Think of all the bad things of them that you can. Now close your eyes and just imagine the horror these people lived through in their dying moments. Barbaric cunts. The worst kind you can imagine. May all that perished in the hands of these cunts RIP. You did not deserve this you poor souls. :( :( :(

These people are not illegal migrants they are mostly refugees. Refugees are not a burden to anybody, all they need is a chance and they will re=establish their lives and contribute to the society they live in. Greece and Italy should be helped in this situation by the EU. They talked about taking their fair share of refugees but so far it has all be just hot air. We have 40,000 coming over on small boats and Fish has the audacity to ask the French to take them when the French take over 100,000 a year.
What is wrong with allowing these people to travel safely on normal transport. This resembles the slave ship mentality.

Who would have though that the Europeans would return to the barbaric attitudes of the Colonials in 2023?

May all those who perished RIP and condolences to all their families.
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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby MR-from-NG » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:08 pm

Maximus wrote:The Greek coast guard may have tried to tow the boat, that does not mean they intentionally tried to sink it. It could mean that they attempted to tow it to safety.

You see, how you want to make it everyone elses fault but theirs....due to the stupid choice they made.

At the end of the day, these people and the people who tried to smuggle them are responsible for the tragedy they brought to themselves and another nations shores.

Not that they deserve to die but they are stupid people, a danger to themselves and to others.

Thest gaurd who may have been towing them to safety Greek coais now allegedly responsible for the tragedy because they were put in a situation where they were expected to help.

This is but one of the consequences for trying to help stupid people.

Wow, Max, you might have a point there. I mean, the version from those on the sunk boat is distorted due to all the commotion and confusion going on. I mean, no race with an ounce of decency would have such policies against their fellow beings. The Greeks had the best of intention the whole time and here we are the silly cunts that we are blaming them for this tragedy.And you expect us to go along with your stupid theory. What a fucking plonker :evil: :evil: :evil:

Max, I got to know you over the years, I know there is some level of decency in you.Now young man, I say this to you. Own up to the crime, the mass murder the cunts committed and distance yourself from them or accept your stupid version of events and be a cunt like them.
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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Maximus » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:39 pm

What I understand from this account is that the Greek coast guard threw them a blue rope, so they could tied it to the boat and be towed.

I refuse to believe that this was not done with the best of intentions to tow them to safety.

Only an evil cunt would trick them in to a tow with the malicious intent to attempt to sink them instead.

No that's not it. You have a pretty distorted view and are making some pretty outlandish accusations.

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BTW, the last person I would probably believe is an illegal immigrant from Pakistan.
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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby MR-from-NG » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:46 pm

Lordo wrote:Finally a bit of info about how the boat was sunk. There were 4 ships and a helicopter in there and saw it all.

https://www.facebook.com/519820384/videos/5877893008981441

"The Greek coast guard approached us and threw us a blue rope. They starting to drag us away The way they were pulling us was not right. We were screaming and screaming. The ship then started leaning to the left, the dock turned the opposite side and then our ship started tipping sideways and sinking.
▪️ We were trying to climb the ship, we wanted to survive.
Coast Guard pulled the trigger. We cried out to them for help They turned their ship around creating a big wave so our ship was completely flipped over. The people on the side of the ship were underneath it. We heard the people in the fortress beating the irons.
The ship is completely sunk "
▪️ Journalist Fallah Elias of the German channel WDR shared on Twitter an absolutely shocking and horrifying testimony of a shipwreck rescued.
https://twitter.com/falahelias/status/1 ... 70322432...

In the video, other survivors from Pakistan confirm that the Greek port guard sank the boat with its tow.
It's not one, it's not two, it's no three, there are already many testimonies that show the Greek Government and the Coast Guard as the only subjects of the wreckage and drowning of hundreds of people at the Gate. Instead of rescuing them, they were pulling the boat with a rope until it was overturned. Probably to get them out of the Greek rescue zone.
Witnesses say about 100 children among the dead.
If this is true, it is the largest homicide crime in Europe's post-war history.

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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:05 am

Londonrake wrote:
Lordo wrote:If this is true, it is the largest homicide crime in Europe's post-war history.


Really?

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Mr-NG will believe anything.
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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:34 am

Survivor testimonies are starting to emerge. Citing the Greek newspaper Kathimerini, the news agency Associated Press published interviews with Hassan, a 23-year-old Syrian, and Rana, a 24-year-old Pakistani.

They said the boat's engine broke down repeatedly after three days at sea. Some of the people they believe were working for the smugglers mended it only for it to break down again, they said, adding that they think the captain may have lost his way. According to Hassan’s account, the captain was forced to call for help late on Tuesday after many of the passengers complained about the lack of food and water. According to Rana's account, Many passengers panicked and rushed to the opposite side, causing the boat to capsize and sink. Rana says he could not swim but managed to stay afloat until a "large ship retrieved him." His wife and children, who were in a cabin, were not so lucky.

According to the Greek coast guard, up until shortly before the overcrowded fishing boat capsized and sank, it had been making steady progress towards Italy and had refused all help from the Greek authorities and nearby ships, saying that they wanted to make it to Italy.

Pictures and videos taken by passengers aboard some of the nearby ships have also come to light. They appear to show the migrant ship relatively static. According to the BBC’s Europe Correspondent Nick Beake, the migrant ship was "not moving for at least seven hours before it capsized."

The master of the Lucky Sailor "reported that those on board this boat were very hesitant to receive any assistance and at any attempt of approach ... started to maneuver away from M/T Lucky Sailor." Those on board were reportedly shouting they wanted to go to Italy. They were, however, finally convinced to take the extra food and water.

Mohammed said the survivors he spoke with blamed the Greek coast guard for "towing" the ship and causing it to capsize -- a charge the Greek coast guard continue to deny. However, in the face of numerous similar testimonies, they have now stated they approached the ship with a “small buoy operation”, according to Politico, in order to try and get on board. However, they say the rope was untied by those on board, who continued to refuse help.

A Guardian report claimed that the situation on the vessel was so "bleak that even before it sank there had already been six deaths after it ran out of fresh water".
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