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[Lordo]

Can anybody explain why the talks back in 2017 were closed down before the Prime Ministers took part in the talks?

Who the fuck made that decision?

It was Kotzias and Anastasiades who refused the UN to call in the Prime Ministers into the meetings. I do wonder why though.

[repulsewarrior]

...those of us Cypriot remain silent still, for the sake of Order, hoping that the Leadership in the end are just like 'us' committed to Universal Principles above all, equals who are willing in that way to defend each other.

"Greekness" indeed exists, yet it is torn; "they" did not succeed with their coup and it was in the end "their" Government that fell.

"Turkishness" remains as much a threat, and it should be the focus of all Cypriots to unite, to demonstrate that such an existence exists today as Cypriots and in effect, expose them the "They" who would like the world to believe 'we' are few and insignificant instead, a People who do not relent as Cypriots because they are Cypriot.

...i will remain hopeful that we have not seen the last of Mr. Anastasiades, or men like Mr. Talat and Mr. Akinci, they are the elders we have who despite their failings more than anything want to see Cypriots living in Liberty Free. They are civilians now, Citizens, and as such it is entirely possible for them to unite with the people in the streets, and on the beaches who may gather to express their "Cypriotness' if you will, together.

...in the broader scope of things Lordo we must look forward by acting accordingly, learning our lessons from History: Lest we Forget, not to allow "It'' to write 'our' History as well.

[repulsewarrior]

...an update on the Pyla-UN road,

https://www.saltwire.com/cape-breton/ne ... 100899703/

...and a more detailed article,

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/euro ... 173a3.html

But Turkish military guard posts inside the buffer zone will be removed, there will be no Turkish or Turkish Cypriot military or police presence permitted there and the U.N.’s jurisdiction of the area will be affirmed and uncontested.

This assuages Greek Cypriot concerns that road is intended for military purposes at a sensitive spot along the buffer zone that spans 180 kilometers (120 miles).

The U.N. will man a checkpoint along the newly built road to ensure that only Turkish Cypriots and European Union nationals can gain entry into the south, although Greek Cypriots won't be able to cross northward from there.

The Cypriot government officials said that equally significant is that the entire area, which has been vacant for 49 years, is now designated for development — construction of homes, shops and businesses operating under EU law — for the benefit of both communities.

The officials were speaking on condition of anonymity because they’re not permitted to discuss the details of the deal publicly,

[Mustiejodu]

Far more trustworthy and tolerant towards you lot than the Israel government has been towards the Palestinians. You should support Palestinians as their story is the same as yours but you are not treated like shit like they are by Israel. Turkey took your land yet you are a thriving country , Israel took Palestinians land and continued to take even more treating palastinans like animals. Turkey has allowed you to live like humans yet you behave like animals. Turkey has patiently tolerated your bull shit when they should treat you lot like Israel treats the Palestinians but Turkey are not animals like Israel yet you still want to do business with zionists when you have had the same done towards you. Hamas is branded as terrorists and so were EOKA by the Brits so you see you was what HAMAS is yet you are welcomed into the hearts of EU.

[Lordo]

Far more trustworthy and tolerant towards you lot than the Israel government has been towards the Palestinians. You should support Palestinians as their story is the same as yours but you are not treated like shit like they are by Israel. Turkey took your land yet you are a thriving country , Israel took Palestinians land and continued to take even more treating palastinans like animals. Turkey has allowed you to live like humans yet you behave like animals. Turkey has patiently tolerated your bull shit when they should treat you lot like Israel treats the Palestinians but Turkey are not animals like Israel yet you still want to do business with zionists when you have had the same done towards you. Hamas is branded as terrorists and so were EOKA by the Brits so you see you was what HAMAS is yet you are welcomed into the hearts of EU.

It's only the fascists in Cyprus that do not support Palestinians Musti. I suspect a lot of Greek Cypriots are against Israel and how she treats the Palestinians

[repulsewarrior]

...you can look at it the other way around Mustie,

Cypriots, Greek Cypriots, are "Far more trustworthy and tolerant towards you lot than the Israel government has been" to Gazans (never mind the Palestinians as a whole).

Turkey one hopes represents a higher ideal, one that the world expects the Israelis to defend, of Human dignity beyond the nature of Nations: there is nothing but 'normal' in this.

..."You" speak of revenge, and hatefulness; seems a contradiction to me, it's the last thing that is needed.

..."Jews", "Greeks", "Turks" and "Arabs", i know them, i know that they are all the same, and i know the pain you feel because i feel the same pain; "Them" and 'us': it goes beyond the "Thisness" easy to choose.

[repulsewarrior]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IYQeC4Gfp8

...hours of rioting outside the American Embassy in Lebanon.

[Lordo]

...you can look at it the other way around Mustie,

Cypriots, Greek Cypriots, are "Far more trustworthy and tolerant towards you lot than the Israel government has been" to Gazans (never mind the Palestinians as a whole).

Turkey one hopes represents a higher ideal, one that the world expects the Israelis to defend, of Human dignity beyond the nature of Nations: there is nothing but 'normal' in this.

..."You" speak of revenge, and hatefulness; seems a contradiction to me, it's the last thing that is needed.

..."Jews", "Greeks", "Turks" and "Arabs", i know them, i know that they are all the same, and i know the pain you feel because i feel the same pain; "Them" and 'us': it goes beyond the "Thisness" easy to choose.

Clearly you were not in Cyprus during 63 and 68 when Makarios banned even baby milk to the enclaves. He boasted he put the TCs on a diet. Clearly not at the same scale but alse clearly exact same shit.

What the hell does this mean RW?

Greek Cypriots, are "Far more trustworthy and tolerant towards you lot

[repulsewarrior]

...i was a child. And as i've said before, coming from a "mixed" village, what did i know about "Them" except that they were very dangerous to me.

And unlike the "Greeks" who ran away rather quickly in '74, 'we' stayed until the Turkish Army came and with their partisans had 'us' disappeared and the rest housed outside in schoolyards until the complete removal months later.

...i don't like "Greeks" and i don't like "Turks", they are the same to me; you?

Indeed in Cyprus, to answer your question Lordo, Cypriots Turkish and Greek have not succumb to voting for one of "Their" candidates, never once even after all these decades, overwhelmingly. That says a lot.

...like in Gaza/Israel, a majority (silent or silenced) exists that is not Hateful as "They" are. This is the Problem: "Them" and 'us' knows no international boundaries; in that regard it is not a matter of picking one "side".

("you lot"; in bold? (glad you appreciate the tone and intention) Reread my post, I am quoting mustie, (who speaking as a "Turk" actually, is naturally assuming Cypriots are only few, Turkish or Greek, and insignificant).)