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[Oceanside50]

No not at all. The recent issue started in 2013 when the Ukrainian President Viktor Yanoukovich refused to sign getting closer with the west and it was the CIA on the ground which organised the coup to overthrow him and replace him with a West friendly man. There were a lot of problems before with the west messing around in Ukraine which culminated in Russia stopping the supply of cheap gas to Ukraine.

There’s a tape recording of the state department’s Victoria Nuland with someone else trying to figure out who to replace Janakovich after/ during the coup.. this the tape on X ..



https://x.com/juhategelman/status/19837 ... AiVpJ-m9Pw

[Lordo]

No not at all. The recent issue started in 2013 when the Ukrainian President Viktor Yanoukovich refused to sign getting closer with the west and it was the CIA on the ground which organised the coup to overthrow him and replace him with a West friendly man. There were a lot of problems before with the west messing around in Ukraine which culminated in Russia stopping the supply of cheap gas to Ukraine.

There’s a tape recording of the state department’s Victoria Nuland with someone else trying to figure out who to replace Janakovich after/ during the coup.. this the tape on X ..



https://x.com/juhategelman/status/19837 ... AiVpJ-m9Pw

What ever they decide it will not be to the benefit of the country, the discussion will be around what will benefit America.

[Oceanside50]

No not at all. The recent issue started in 2013 when the Ukrainian President Viktor Yanoukovich refused to sign getting closer with the west and it was the CIA on the ground which organised the coup to overthrow him and replace him with a West friendly man. There were a lot of problems before with the west messing around in Ukraine which culminated in Russia stopping the supply of cheap gas to Ukraine.

There’s a tape recording of the state department’s Victoria Nuland with someone else trying to figure out who to replace Janakovich after/ during the coup.. this the tape on X ..



https://x.com/juhategelman/status/19837 ... AiVpJ-m9Pw

What ever they decide it will not be to the benefit of the country, the discussion will be around what will benefit America.

I agree.. the Ukrainians should have thought on those terms also

[Oceanside50]

I stopped thinking in terms of America, England, NATO , Turkey , Greece etc.. and started thinking in terms of deep state the money lending oligarchies in Europe and America , they actually control.. look at the leaders of the EU for instance Ursula Van der Lein, Kalla Kallas , Schwab.. and who is pulling their strings behind the scenes.. look how easily Orban and Trump became friends and mostly agree and look at Mitsotakis and Trump .. at least Orban has the guts to disagree

[Lordo]

The Deep State is just a tool the real culprits are the 10 or so big corporations that benefit from everything Deep State does. Deep State does not have the facilities to monetise the wars started all over the world to steal rare earth minerals, gold, copper, silver oil and gas etc. The corporations do.

[Oceanside50]

The Deep State is just a tool the real culprits are the 10 or so big corporations that benefit from everything Deep State does. Deep State does not have the facilities to monetise the wars started all over the world to steal rare earth minerals, gold, copper, silver oil and gas etc. The corporations do.

Who owns the corporation? Military, pharmaceuticals, railroads, agriculture