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[Oceanside50]

The EU has no natural resources, no significant energy, no agriculture. All the economies of the EU are in steep decline economically and socially/ politically. Most of the members are in debt up to their eyeballs with declining economies. Germany, once the powerhouse economy is heading into deep recession.. its economy is deindustrializing rapidly.. just last month Germany’s economy shrunk by 4% in one month.. VW, lost 11 billion euros last year and doesn’t have enough money to begin building the next batch of cars.. The EU lacks AI infrastructure ( data centers, energy to power them). Russia, China and the USA are way ahead in technology. The USA is looking to the far east rather than Europe. In other words a map laid out on a table had the Atlantic Ocean in the middle the USA on the left and Eurasia on the right.. Now the map has shifted. The Pacific is the center with China, India, Russia to the left and the USA to the right..Europe is the corner somewhere. There’s already talk by Trump and Putin of building rail tunnels connecting Alaska to the Russia mainland, probably high speed rail. Build a train full of widgets in China and they could be in Florida in 5 days and vice versa. The Eu/ NATO pushed Ukraine into this bloody war against Russia, hoping for regime change in Russia and control of Russias natural resources.. The plan has miserably failed. How does Europe save itself from this mess?

[Lordo]

The EU has no natural resources, no significant energy, no agriculture. All the economies of the EU are in steep decline economically and socially/ politically. Most of the members are in debt up to their eyeballs with declining economies. Germany, once the powerhouse economy is heading into deep recession.. its economy is deindustrializing rapidly.. just last month Germany’s economy shrunk by 4% in one month.. VW, lost 11 billion euros last year and doesn’t have enough money to begin building the next batch of cars.. The EU lacks AI infrastructure ( data centers, energy to power them). Russia, China and the USA are way ahead in technology. The USA is looking to the far east rather than Europe. In other words a map laid out on a table had the Atlantic Ocean in the middle the USA on the left and Eurasia on the right.. Now the map has shifted. The Pacific is the center with China, India, Russia to the left and the USA to the right..Europe is the corner somewhere. There’s already talk by Trump and Putin of building rail tunnels connecting Alaska to the Russia mainland, probably high speed rail. Build a train full of widgets in China and they could be in Florida in 5 days and vice versa. The Eu/ NATO pushed Ukraine into this bloody war against Russia, hoping for regime change in Russia and control of Russias natural resources.. The plan has miserably failed. How does Europe save itself from this mess?

Your conclusions are wrong. It is America who pushed this war on us so that they can embargo Russia and force the world to buy oil and gas from American corporations. The Europeans had already access to cheap oil and gas from Russia so they had nothing to benefit from this war other than arms selling to Ukraine.
The only country in trouble is America as she has huge debt and once Dollar is not being used for international trade they will be up the shit creek without a paddle, and that day may not be too far away.

[Robin Hood]

I don't think there is much difference between the EU/UK and The US when it comes down to it. This may interest you (or not) ........ it is an an explanation of 'money Creation' by Richard Werner who exchanged views views with twenty years ago ........ and our views have not changed!

https://www.globalresearch.ca/tucker-carlson-interviews-economist-richard-werner/5903571 It is a long listen and complicated but informative.

....... and everyone though I was crazy ..... including current contributors to this forum!

[Oceanside50]

The EU has no natural resources, no significant energy, no agriculture. All the economies of the EU are in steep decline economically and socially/ politically. Most of the members are in debt up to their eyeballs with declining economies. Germany, once the powerhouse economy is heading into deep recession.. its economy is deindustrializing rapidly.. just last month Germany’s economy shrunk by 4% in one month.. VW, lost 11 billion euros last year and doesn’t have enough money to begin building the next batch of cars.. The EU lacks AI infrastructure ( data centers, energy to power them). Russia, China and the USA are way ahead in technology. The USA is looking to the far east rather than Europe. In other words a map laid out on a table had the Atlantic Ocean in the middle the USA on the left and Eurasia on the right.. Now the map has shifted. The Pacific is the center with China, India, Russia to the left and the USA to the right..Europe is the corner somewhere. There’s already talk by Trump and Putin of building rail tunnels connecting Alaska to the Russia mainland, probably high speed rail. Build a train full of widgets in China and they could be in Florida in 5 days and vice versa. The Eu/ NATO pushed Ukraine into this bloody war against Russia, hoping for regime change in Russia and control of Russias natural resources.. The plan has miserably failed. How does Europe save itself from this mess?

Your conclusions are wrong. It is America who pushed this war on us so that they can embargo Russia and force the world to buy oil and gas from American corporations. The Europeans had already access to cheap oil and gas from Russia so they had nothing to benefit from this war other than arms selling to Ukraine.
The only country in trouble is America as she has huge debt and once Dollar is not being used for international trade they will be up the shit creek without a paddle, and that day may not be too far away.

The elites ( banking oligarchies in USA, Europe) wanted this war.. 400 years of Empire dependent on pillaging other countries natural resources, is coming to an end. Think of America as a dichotomy. One side is are the influential corporations guided by the deep state oligarchies. That began in 1607 with the first English settlement in Jamestown Virginia and the discovery of tobacco . The other is the founding fathers of America George Washington, Alexander Hamilton etc.. these guys wanted to completely break away from the British . . There’s been a tug of war ever since..

[repulsewarrior]

This podcast with Jeffrey Sachs from Fidias adds grist to the mill...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKYwmUvUDHg

[Oceanside50]

This podcast with Jeffrey Sachs from Fidias adds grist to the mill...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKYwmUvUDHg

Good man Jeffery Sachs… the deep state wants to discredit him…. An Italian senator recently called him a liar .. on live tv.. everything Mr Sachs talks about is verifiable. see how the deep state operates

[Oceanside50]

This is what we all should be fighting against, the banking oligarchic deep state

https://www.youtube.com/live/Uh5-W5WPeR ... V2kga3EFuf

[Londonrake]

I don't think there is much difference between the EU/UK and The US when it comes down to it. This may interest you (or not) ........ it is an an explanation of 'money Creation' by Richard Werner who exchanged views views with twenty years ago ........ and our views have not changed!

https://www.globalresearch.ca/tucker-carlson-interviews-economist-richard-werner/5903571 It is a long listen and complicated but informative.

....... and everyone though I was crazy ..... including current contributors to this forum!

I don't believe that's true. IIRC nobody regarded you as "crazy". I certainly didn't.

[Oceanside50]

The EU has no natural resources, no significant energy, no agriculture. All the economies of the EU are in steep decline economically and socially/ politically. Most of the members are in debt up to their eyeballs with declining economies. Germany, once the powerhouse economy is heading into deep recession.. its economy is deindustrializing rapidly.. just last month Germany’s economy shrunk by 4% in one month.. VW, lost 11 billion euros last year and doesn’t have enough money to begin building the next batch of cars.. The EU lacks AI infrastructure ( data centers, energy to power them). Russia, China and the USA are way ahead in technology. The USA is looking to the far east rather than Europe. In other words a map laid out on a table had the Atlantic Ocean in the middle the USA on the left and Eurasia on the right.. Now the map has shifted. The Pacific is the center with China, India, Russia to the left and the USA to the right..Europe is the corner somewhere. There’s already talk by Trump and Putin of building rail tunnels connecting Alaska to the Russia mainland, probably high speed rail. Build a train full of widgets in China and they could be in Florida in 5 days and vice versa. The Eu/ NATO pushed Ukraine into this bloody war against Russia, hoping for regime change in Russia and control of Russias natural resources.. The plan has miserably failed. How does Europe save itself from this mess?

Your conclusions are wrong. It is America who pushed this war on us so that they can embargo Russia and force the world to buy oil and gas from American corporations. The Europeans had already access to cheap oil and gas from Russia so they had nothing to benefit from this war other than arms selling to Ukraine.
The only country in trouble is America as she has huge debt and once Dollar is not being used for international trade they will be up the shit creek without a paddle, and that day may not be too far away.

Why did you fall for Uncle Sams trickery.. ? I disagree, Europe wanted this war and when I say Europe I mean the elites the deep state pushed this war.. Elites are in the USA and Europe. In 2016, the democrats pushed the idea that there was Russian collusion in the elections between Trump and Hillary.. it turns out there wasn’t. Basically the deep state wanted to create the idea of an aggressive Russia and Putin was the new Dr No.. they steal the election in 2020, create a fake pandemic and By den the deep states boy gets elected.. as soon as the covid mandate ended the very next day the war begins in Ukraine. It’s out of the question to allow the Europeans to get close to Russia by the continued cheap energy supply .. Europe became closer to Russia and Russia became stronger.. the game had to end.. to my surprise there’s a deep racist type of thinking towards the Russians especially the British .. they really hate Russians.. On the other side of the pond the deep states tool senator Lyndsey Graham came out and said “ there’s no way we can live with the Russians over us.. Russia is too big has too many natural resources and needs to be broken up in 5-6 pieces”

[Lordo]

No not at all. The recent issue started in 2013 when the Ukrainian President Viktor Yanoukovich refused to sign getting closer with the west and it was the CIA on the ground which organised the coup to overthrow him and replace him with a West friendly man. There were a lot of problems before with the west messing around in Ukraine which culminated in Russia stopping the supply of cheap gas to Ukraine.