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[michalis5354]

READ OBJECTIVE SOURCES please and get real information . Not hear what your parents told you and your school teachers! School teachers are there just to get the monthly salary !

[michalis5354]

The education system is highly respomsible for not spreading Objective information this is the reason I said Real leaders are needed Here!

[cypezokyli]

there are no "obective sources"
but the more you read the better.

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gcgril, your idea of history amazingly resembles the ideas of the homebuyers group, just reversed ( " its all your fault " - attitude) .

the prospect of a "discussion" between you and them causes tears and laughter and the same time

[andri_cy]

READ OBJECTIVE SOURCES please and get real information . Not hear what your parents told you and your school teachers! School teachers are there just to get the monthly salary !

I think in a lot of cases the parents are to blame. I think hatred and disrespect is taught mostly at home. You cant expect the teachers to raise your children for you, it is your job. And if we were to get more involved in our kids lives and ask them what they learned in school today then maybe we will get the chance to tell them that we disagree with some things that they may or may not hae been taught. My mother is a retired teacher so I know how hard of a job that has become nowadays. They teach whatever curriculum they are presented with. Some of them choose to put some of their personal poison in with the teaching some dont. My father fought in 1974 and he never spoke of TC's like they didnt belong here. Sometimes he spoke like Turkish invaders should go home yes, but that was all. If you ever got in a conversation with him you would see that he was mostly mad at JUnta and EOKA B because in all fairness they gave Turkey a valid excuse to invade. There are always two sides to every story and it seems that both sides in this case seem to forget about the other side.

[michalis5354]

My parents also did not give me the full picture and I had all these feeling of hostility and injustice for many years until I have started to finding out more and more and the real picture has been revealed!

If you do not know the real TRUTH then you will repeat the same mistakes again!

[Piratis]

How can you realistically expect to go on with a rascist attitude thats creates hatred and will eventually partition Cyprus permanently.

This is again a racist approach. Because someone has a negative approach this means that a whole race should be associated with his approach and the whole race should be convicted?
Sorry, but people that are looking for excuses to continue illegalities and crimes against a whole race are even worst than those that they accuse since they perform racist actions not just racist words.

Piratis which part of my post is rascist? It is a fact that if this is the attitude of many on both sides then why would they want to live together thus only possible solution is permanent partition. Changes in attitudes towards others races surely is a step in the right direction.

stuballstu, if you had placed the part in bold in your initial post then everything would be fine.

Were I disagree is when the posts/sayings of a minority of people are generalized and projected on the whole community in order to excuse illegalities and crimes against everybody.

Do not forget that the official Turkish policy for decades has been the partition of Cyprus. Hatred and hostility serve the interests of those that want partition. If all Cypriots forgave each other for the past and started to respect and even trust each other, then what excuse would Turkey give to continue her occupation?

Hate and hostility are things that perfectly suit the aims of Turkey in Cyprus. Turkey is therefore trying to fuel this hate and unfortunately some not so smart Greek Cypriots play her game.

[stuballstu]

stuballstu, if you had placed the part in bold in your initial post then everything would be fine.

thanks for pointing out my typo. The way you have now read it with the bold inserted was the way that it was meant. I do not try to generalise my views on the minority of GC and TC views. However sometimes you cant change certain peoples views with a sledgehammer.


ps did i use the bold correctly on this post, i think i'm going to have to get my 14 year old daughter to teach me how to use the computer properly

[Piratis]

You used bold fine

I am glad we agreed! The views of some people will never change and we will always have a minority of racists. The problem is that racism leads to racism which in turn leads to more racism.

The way I see it nobody should be able to act on his racist beliefs. If somebody dislikes some people because of their race thats his problem. If for example a Greek Cypriot doesn't like Turkish Cypriots then moving out of Cyprus himself is the best option for him.

[GreekCypriotGurl_UK]

i dont know much about EOKA but what i heard was they where fighting the British Colonist in the 1960s but if EOKA did Wrong still that does not justify Turkey invading Cyprus and stealing Greeks homes and killing people

I beleive that Turkey would have still invaded Cyprus if it was not for EOKA. Turks said it themselfs that they see Cyprus as part of Turkey becasue it was under the ottoman empire and not just Cyprus Turkey also claims some of the Aegean islands in Greece is EOKA in the Aegean islands ? was there EOKA when Turks stole Constantinople? i can not feel much sympathy for the turkish Cypriots as they called for Turkey to invade Cyprus

[andri_cy]

EOKA and EOKA B are 2 different organizations. You need to read a bit more on your country's hostory before you make statements. Maybe you are right and they would have still invaded who knows. But the fact that we gave them a valid excuse doesnt help us and it sure doesnt make us look like the victims we claim we are. They did the wrong thing but before we are able to point the finger at others we need to make sure we have our own ducks in a row dont you think? MAybe you dont, who knows.