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Postby NeverSayGoodbye » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:15 pm

Since there has to be a Top dog in the world I prefer it being U.S.A rather than Russia,China or some islamist fundamentalist country and I believe that this is the opinion of the magority of greek-cypriots.
But it seems that the U.S.A are acting as the worlds police force and underestimating the role of the United Nations.
They have failed miserably in Iraq and things dont seem to be improving.You cant force Democracy.Democracy comes from within.When fighting communism the americans were quite happy supporting dictators such as Saddam.They have slept with the enemy many times in the pass and even continue to do so today when its suites their economical interests.

As for Iran I do believe they are a threat but the west must be very careful how to proceed on this one.And not F### it up like Iraq.Things might get very nasty and i dont believe the americans have the political intelligence to control a situation they might create in Iran.

As for certain "anti-american" posts by greek-cypriots on this forum.I think they come from the fact that the military junta of athens was sponsered by the U.S.A and was ecouraged to get rid of the "red" priest Makarios and that it gave Turkey the Green light to invade.
Also very simply Turkey is a much more needed ally of U.S.A especially now that East europe is not communist anymore(Greece was the only ally in the region) So that means Turkey wins more on the negotiating table for Cyprus and what turkey wins greek cypriots loose.
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Postby miltiades » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:26 pm

Bananiot , Im aware that the vast majority of our compatriots are anti American , I visit Cyprus every couple of months and find it so annoying when even members of my family , young kids are expressing anti American views.This is the result of what I call mental rape , the culprits are teachers at schools and of course the media including CY BC who refer to the Suicide bombers as Antartes , since the kids associate Antartes with noble resistance fighters such as the French , or the Greeks during the 2nd WW and more recently the EOKA liberation struggle against the British, coupled with the fact that America openly supports Turkey , they naturally classify Americans as the bad guys. Im hoping that our Cypriot brotherhood in the States who are doing a tremendous job lobbying Congress and campaigning for a just solution for Cyprus , are not too distracted by the anti American feelings of Cypriots in the knowledge that many Cypriots can see where our destiny should lead us and that is in the arms of the Western world. The choice is simple. We have a huge mountain to climb, we do so successfully by moving steadily forward , we forget the past , for now , concentrate on the real issue .Cyprus . Will Cyprus benefit one iota by being anti American ? Lets have a new topic and call it " Will Cyprus benefit by being anti American ? In fact I will leave it to some one other than my self to post it. I wonder how many will reply YES .The mind boggles !
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Postby andri_cy » Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:50 pm

If oil was the reason we wouldnt have to sell A** to pay for it...
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Postby Svetlana » Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:37 am

If we want to taker a broader look at the US's role in the world, I would suggest that without US intervention, even Mother Russia would not have prevented Hitler's takeover of Europe - and that includes Greece and Cyprus. Not a pleasant thought for anyone.

Also, immediately post war, it was US food donations which stopped a war torn western Europe, starving to death. I do not believe al that the US does is good, but I do not believe they are the Devil's Police either.

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Postby Bananiot » Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:21 am

Simpletons, and we have plenty of them in Cyprus (more in Greece), only see oil as the object of the American worry on Iranians aquiring nuclear capabilities. This is gross stupitidy, that is, to examine a very complicated issue and come up with a simplistic answer that we understand and thus elevate it to the sure reason for the agitation all level headed people feel.

Iran, is 4th in the world in oil and 2nd in natural gas. Yet, it declares that it wants to produce nuclear energy for peaceful means! At the same time, Iran is situated in a seismogenic area and god knows what will happen if its nuclear plant is struck by one of those massive earthquakes that are only too common in the area.

Then, its theocratic leader, who speaks only persian and has never set foot to a western country, lives in a dream world and has managed to convince himself that the whole world is corrupt and that he is god chosen to save us all.

Meanwhile, we should sit comfortable at home and allow him to play his nuclear games until we wake up one day and realise that things will never be the same as we knew them. The USA may not be the epitomy of the best country of the world but we have to choose. Its either western civilisation or a return to stone age.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:21 am

Bananiot you have made a post of paramount importance and I congratulate you . Sir I take my hat off to you.
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Postby pantheman » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:14 pm

miltiades,

I can't hold my silence anymore, even though i tried. I think you are a traitor to the GC race. You and Bananiot should be joined at the genitals as seimes twins perhaps you will get great pleasure from that then what the guy says.

Oil, Oil, Oil is all the americans want and any stupid person who thinks otherwise is deluding himself. When the USA and the UK rushed faster than a speeding bullet to quwaits assistance when iraq invaded, i comment was made to me by a friend from work saying " whats up pan potatoes not good enough for them?" This was in response to the lack of action when turkey INVADED ILLEGALLY Cyprus.

That, Mr, summed it all up, from that day forward I could see the real America, it doesn't stand for justice, democracy and to protect and serve, my backside, it is the very opposite. The sooner you and your mate Bananiot see that the better. Yeah, we have issues with the TCs we cannot say otherwise, but to be honest i'd rather cyprus stayed as it is than have the god damn americans dictate to me how they want it to be.

The definition of a terrorist in the USA /UK eyes is someonw who doesn't do as he is told by them.

The USA is the biggest terrorist, they make out to be buddies, but actually they are ready to screw you over. At least with the likes of Bin Laded , Sadam Hussain and others you knew what you were getting.

I say let us all ban the bomb, make it compulsory for the world over to rid the planet of such a threat, that way there is no excuses. Do you see the US agreeing to this ? F**k no.

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Eleftheria Yia tin Kypro mas, kai H Americani na gamithoune.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:43 pm

Panthema , i will not dissassociate my self from something with which i have never been associated with. you are in full compliance with the despicable characters that you mentioned , you are Sir a disgrace and an affront to every civilised concept of decent behaviour , if you allign yourself with murderers who bring death and distraction at a funeral ? at a wedding ? in a market place place , killing their own peoplle of the same ethnicity and faith.They are sick in the head and Im afraid so are you.
You received whatever education you were lucky to obtain for free in the UK , correct me if Im wrong , but your remarks are that of a bully , what he lacks in brains make us with bravado. Turkish Cypriots need people like you to show the world what a thoroughly nasty enemy the have to deal with. So get lost go and join bin laden .
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Postby gR_LIBERAL » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:59 pm

yes, it's time for a regime change in bloody Iran. Though that the neo cons are not reliable and they love OIL and GAS, it is time to end this Islamic parody. Check http://regimechangeiran.blogspot.com/

Those Mullahs are worst than Nazists. As long as we watch with apanthy the Mullahs executing democrats every day and threatening the free world then America has more chances to take over Iran. We need a global action against those nazi scums in Iran and to make sure that this will be in order to bring democracy to those ppl, ban Islam bring the iranians back to civilization.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/4.htm = those pictures are dedicated to anyone who still wants the Muslim nazis in Iran.
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Postby pantheman » Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:02 pm

Miltiades,

you need to read the posts more carefully before you start ranting :


you quote :

if you allign yourself with murderers who bring death and distraction at a funeral ? at a wedding ? in a market place place , killing their own peoplle of the same ethnicity and faith.They are sick in the head and Im afraid so are you.

Is a load of B**locks. I did say such thing, and i NEVER condoned anything done by the likes of Bin Laden.

Your fancy words are wasted here, what really troubles me is that of a GC that purely thinks he is a TC. You haven't said one single thing in favour of the GC, but forget the past, it doesn't matter what they did to us lets just try and keep them happy.

Sorry koumbare, but you just infuriate me. Your postings are not even fair to both sides only to that of the TCs.

Are you sure you are a GC ? Are you sure your name is not Ali mehmet or something ?

And no, the GC don't need people like you they have enough problems with the Turks already in cyprus. You would just be in disguise.

So, I think i will lnow eave this matter here, i have said my piece, I will watch my back from now on from so called GC such as yourself.

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