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[Bananiot]

Thank you pantelis, you are very kind. So you have an axe to grind against the brits and the yanks. This makes you highly unsuitable to comment on the Cyprus issue, because, whether we like it or not, both the brits and the yanks are major players in the cyprob. Nevertheless, tell us more, its fun.

[pantelis]

"both the brits and the yanks are major players in the cyprob"

Bananiot, is this one of the major reasons why we are, where we are today?

[brother]

ermmm....yes

[Bananiot]

We have a habit of putting the blame on others in this country. Most of the blame for our predicament is shouldered by our thick head.

[pantelis]

Thank you Gardashi.

Bananiot,
My questions above, remained un-answered. Perhaps, if you or anyone else, can offer some answers, we could start putting things in the right perspective. Simply dealing with what floats on the surface, of the Cyprus Problem cesspool, it's not enough.

Who financed the EOKA and the TMT teams?

Do you know of any of your relativesor friends, who sold their property or sold their wedding rings, to raise money to buy arms for the two sides?

[MicAtCyp]

Panteli as far as I know the members of both organisations were not getting money from anywhere. However they were getting support, arms, and ammunition from the army of the motherlands. 3-4 Eoka high ranking Eoka leaders were actually the only ones who had military trainging in Greece whereas there were about 150 Turkish military men one in every TC village training TMT members.
I also know that most of the Eoka B members however were getting regular cheques from USA.

[MicAtCyp]

Bananiot,
My questions above, remained un-answered.

You will wait until eternity Panteli.He never replies to any point!. The only way to rocket fire him is to say the magic word: "Papadopoulos". Do it and you will see.

[-mikkie2-]

Bananiot,

Every one has the right to express their opinions. Just because other people do not agree with you does not mean they are wrong and their views should be belittled or ignored!

The Cyprus Problem is a mix of many things. Yes we were stupid, but that stupidity was exploited by outside powers. So does that make the US and UK any better than us? The Turks exploited the fear of TC's to further their aims as well. The fires of nationalism burned brightly on both sides at that time and nationalism is the easiest thing to manipulate. To not accept that the UK and US took advantage of that would be a naive point of view.

To also accept what is being metted out to us by these people is also just as stupid as not doing anything at all.

[metecyp]

The Cyprus Problem is a mix of many things. Yes we were stupid, but that stupidity was exploited by outside powers. So does that make the US and UK any better than us? The Turks exploited the fear of TC's to further their aims as well. The fires of nationalism burned brightly on both sides at that time and nationalism is the easiest thing to manipulate. To not accept that the UK and US took advantage of that would be a naive point of view.

I agree with you but it's also true that we tend to blame others for all of our misfortunes and that's what Bananiot was objecting to, I believe. Yes, it's true that our stupidity was exploited by outside powers, but we willingly or unwillingly let them do that. For example, you say Turks exploited the fear of TCs, you might be right, but who created those fears in the first place? GC leadership of that time. You can't claim that the GC leadership had no responsibility in this "exploiting TC fears" business unless you think that all TCs are paranoid and their fears were completely baseless. No matter who did what, we have to start accepting that we, Cypriots, had the ultimate responsibility instead of crying and complaining like a little baby.

[-mikkie2-]

You can't claim that the GC leadership had no responsibility in this "exploiting TC fears" business unless you think that all TCs are paranoid and their fears were completely baseless.

Err, I wasn't claiming anything of the sort! That is you making assumptions about what I said!