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Postby Murtaza » Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:22 pm

No I remember them too. Infact that is the worst thing I remember in my life.
But It was USA who helped saddam. So you attacked Iraq for saddam?u
I think you feed him realy good against Iran
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Postby Red Brigade10 » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:51 pm

Q:Who are the smartest people in USA?

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Postby michalis5354 » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:54 pm

JustAnAmerican wrote:You mother fuckers really don’t have a clue about Americans do you? Have you ever met one?

Madeline Albright’s statement ended her career. She did not have a clue concerning how a lot of things worked.

The “American Military Industry” or dollars spent on military defense is a fraction of the total GDP of the US.
More Americans privately donate money to International Relief agencies than the total GDP of most of Eastern Europe. How much money have you and your family given?

The US Economy will collapse! Yeah right. Walk across the street to your local bank in Greece, Cyprus or the UK and ask the President of that bank how much of his bank’s assets are invested in US denominated currency or US Government bonds. You will find quickly that any “collapse” of the US economy would greatly effect yours.

The number two investor in US bonds in Asia…… North Korea. So why would they fire up their nuclear missiles? They would sink their own financial markets.

My advice to you is get mad or get educated. Fix your own countries fucked up problems, and when you solve things like the Cyprus-Problem then let me know. Otherwise, get down to the US Embassy, go get your visa and become an American. You got three things you can do in the world, LEAD, FOLLOW, or get the hell out of the way.

All the information provided were from American sources -CNN - so there is no reason to feel negative about them .

The 20,000 civilian Iraqis that have been murdered during the war either intentionally or unintentionally were taken from the Washington Post. So again they are not my own propaganda. Just read some of you rlocal papers and accept some critisism at least. Not all Americans have supported the war have they ?

Tony Blair accepted at the UK parliament that the report on Weapons of muss destruction was not accurate. Many have argued that it was based on misleading information.There was a huge controversy on this in Britain! The weapons of muss destruction -being one of the main reasons for the war - have not been found yet.

Read some of your local papers what they say about the war before rushing to conclusions. If there is one who needs more education it is certainly you !

Although I can see some of the USA argumnets regarding the war I believe that the costs of the war far outweighed the benefits . Which are still to come!
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Postby snchduer » Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:52 pm

ppl, plz, dont oversimplify things - this is generally not helping anyone. One example: It has also been brought forward that US went to Iraq because of the oil - while strategically, this might be valid, economically this is not really true - first of all, they could have traded with Saddam as they did during the Iran-Iraq war (havent heard of any conscience bites in the American government so far about this kind of thing), second of all, the investments will outweigh the profits for the next 10 years or so in this business.

I think personally it has a more geostrategic note, getting a solid foot in the Middle East.

Being a German (and thus from a country against the war, and also personally very much against from the beginning), I still call this war a lunatic act, with a dilettantic post-war management. However, the question is pragmatically put: how will it go on there? How - if at all - will stability come to Iraq? What impacts - positive and negative - will it have in the Middle East, esp. Iran? How does this affect the "war on terror"?

ps: US economy will not collapse, but USA will be very wary of making another war in this kind of country after this "second Vietnam"...
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Postby demetriou_74 » Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:10 pm

i must admit americans are abit trigger-happy. BUT when i went to nyc lots of people were still shook-up about 9/11. we have never experienced something like that so we wouldnt know. and the US is very Patrioitic which is a good thing so you can understand why they want to protect themselves.
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Postby city » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:04 am

I agree with snchduer.

And do not forget who supported Saddam in earlier years and, to mention another example, who widely supported the Taliban in Afghanistan when they were fighting the Soviets and later on decided that they were the evil of the world?? I think american politicians (@JustAnAmerican: I'm not talking american people in general here) just use whoever seems to be appropriate at the time for their purposes and later on simply forget about them and change their mind, just how its suitable for them.
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