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Postby Piratis » Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:56 pm

THE ALTERNATIVE IS A THEOCRATIC DICTATORIAL MEDIEVAL SYSTEM , THAT IS A FACT.


I believe this is were you go wrong. That if the Americans stop trying to force their dominance over the whole world that the Islamists will take over somehow.

This is totally wrong. In fact if the USA and its allies started behaving in a fair way nobody would hate them and the Islamist fundamentalism would not have such a fertile ground to grow, as the one that Americans gave to them over the last few years.
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Postby sadik06 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:28 pm

miltiades wrote:The West Kikapu values all life including the life of animals.
The West went to the assistance of the Bosnian Muslims when they were been ethnically cleansed.
The West fought two world wars in order to defeat the Nazis.
The West did not "push "as you say Iraq to war with Iran , the bloody mullahs started it.
For such a horrid system that is operating in the West is ironic that millions of people from around the globe are jostling to become part of it.
THE ALTERNATIVE IS A THEOCRATIC DICTATORIAL MEDIEVAL SYSTEM , THAT IS A FACT.


the west historically drived humanity to bloody life
what was the reason for america to invade iraq, i think it was the nuclear weapon, but there were no nuclear weapons. and they killed thousands of people in the name of bringing the american so called democracy and freedom. america no is the worst animal and vampire that like to live on the blood of children and women
open your eyes and see with a critical mind and dont let your hatred to muslims drive you to find excuses for tyranny.
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Postby sadik06 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:33 pm

Piratis wrote:
THE ALTERNATIVE IS A THEOCRATIC DICTATORIAL MEDIEVAL SYSTEM , THAT IS A FACT.


I believe this is were you go wrong. That if the Americans stop trying to force their dominance over the whole world that the Islamists will take over somehow.

This is totally wrong. In fact if the USA and its allies started behaving in a fair way nobody would hate them and the Islamist fundamentalism would not have such a fertile ground to grow, as the one that Americans gave to them over the last few years.


thank you,

terrorism is the result of the american unjust policy.
hizbollah is found after the israeli invasion to lebanon it was as a reaction
and the same story with hamass ........

and now israel is making more enemies by the invasion of lebanon.
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Postby miltiades » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:37 pm

Sadic 06, I do not have the time or the energy to hate either the Muslims the Christians or Jews , for that matter any religion.
Since I do not for one second believe in any God and since I believe that Religion , all religion , is a decease and a cancer that causes so much suffering , why do you say I hate Islam. I don't . I just don't have time for religious nonsense coming out of any where. So get your facts right.
Hizbollah and Hamas have as their agenda the annihilation of Israel , and in the process their people are suffering , but as their philosophy is based on the fact that they love death more than we love life what does one say to that.
Strange how the Jews and Arabs are so religious and yet they hate each other so much, is it not hypocritical , do you not ask your self how is it that God created both the Jews and the Arabs and yet they kill each other .
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Postby dinos » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:11 pm

sadik06 wrote:what was the reason for america to invade iraq


Unfortunately, I think the real reason for going into Iraq was for a quick military victory with "I am Tough on Terrorists" parties at the White House. Ergo, Bush's warplane landing under the Victory sign. So much for that prospect... :oops:
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Postby miltiades » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:42 pm

The West has an obligation to preserve our culture and our way of life. Those who disagree or find our way of life offensive have a perfect right to take themselves and families and withdraw into their world . We , in the West will carry on progressing in every field and thriving to constantly improve our lives that we value so much and we consider as sacred . Let those who find the West abhorrent depart from our shores and go back to where they came from , the stone age .
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Postby dinos » Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:34 pm

I think the West has a right to pursue what is in its best interests. As do the East, North and South. But hard-lines don't advance the discussion much.

A popular philosophy among some folks stateside is that Europeans are cowards that constantly need the US to bail them out of problems they're too weak to deal with.

The other side in Europe feels that certain Western folks (namely, Americans) are blood sucking creatures that come out of their coffins at night to enjoy making poor people suffer and die.

So - where are we now? Respectfully, neither of the above are accurate; both serve to polarize people. The actions the Israelis are currently taking will ultimately serve to increase Hezbollah's rank-and-file. Which will result in more killing. Which won't preserve the West's culture or way of life in any way.

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Postby G.Man » Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:41 pm

miltiades wrote:The West has an obligation to preserve our culture and our way of life. Those who disagree or find our way of life offensive have a perfect right to take themselves and families and withdraw into their world . We , in the West will carry on progressing in every field and thriving to constantly improve our lives that we value so much and we consider as sacred . Let those who find the West abhorrent depart from our shores and go back to where they came from , the stone age .


I have departed britain, i find the policies of the uk government now unbearable...

The west doesnt preserve culture in any way shape or form, there is far more culture in the middle east, but it does try to preserve its way of life, ie keep the oil flowing...

Blair is Bush's lapdog and setting the UK on the road to ruin and a return to the days of terrorism...

If he had any balls he would be condemning israels actions, get out of iraq, and think about moving those troops to Lebanon to preserve the peace...
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Postby miltiades » Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:44 pm

G.Man wrote:
""""If he had any balls he would be condemning israels actions, get out of iraq, and think about moving those troops to Lebanon to preserve the peace..."""

How about , while he is at it , send Hezbollah some modern state of the art rockets so when they fire them at Israel (and who gives a shit where they land ) would cause maximum civilian casualties or even wipe most of Israel of the face of the earth. Is it this that you are suggesting should happen. Iraq its its own worst enemy , did you know that the Sunnis will not shake the hand of a Shiite for fear of being contaminated. These murderers are the ones responsible for the mess in Iraq and Hezbollah are the culprits who started this war.

Lebanon had American influence to get the Syrians out of their country , now they will get Israeli help to rid themselves of Hezbollah once and for all.
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Postby G.Man » Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:58 pm

miltiades wrote:
Lebanon had American influence to get the Syrians out of their country , now they will get Israeli help to rid themselves of Hezbollah once and for all.


Deluded...

Hezbollah will have more recruits than ever after this israeli incursion.. Israel will have more enemies in the ME, America will have more terrorist incidents...

America cares only about controlling the middle east and its oil... They have solved nothing in Iraq and more people are dying every day since they went in.. in fact the only thing they changed was that oil in iraq is now traded in dollars again instead of euros (which harmed the US economy) and they have another buyer for their arms which helps their massive balance of payments deficit, just like the israeli/hezbollah conflict does..

If you think america and UK back this for anything other than economic reasons you are crazy...

:shock:

PS if you think this is all Muslim vs Jew, then you would be surprised at the number of Christians in the ME who think Hitler didnt do a good enough job! Such is the hatred for Israel...

Very very sad...
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