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[miltiades]

WHAT A LOAD OF THIRD WORLD CRAP ,WE SAW THE F..NG ATTACK ON OUR TV SCREENS FOR GODSAKE..

[greek.god]

What exactly are all you conspiracy theorists smoking. Can I have some The only conspiracy was that a madman and his religious zealots carried out the attack and claimed credit for it in a video. Is it too difficult to understand that fanatical Islamists want to destroy the world as we know it. Maybe you all need a drink. Do you really think that the U.S. administration would kill close to 3000 people and keep it a secret. They fuc..d up Iraq, Lebanon, Somalia, Afghanistan but they have the brains and talent to pull this off. Get freaking real people.

[miltiades]

At last !! Greek God tell'm mate ! Cant believe how much hatred there is out there for the US . Look at the voting out of 13 votes 10 YES 10 think the Americans did it !!!!

[devil]

Which just shows something!

The question is whether the US had foreknowledge of the impending attack. They possibly had an inkling that something was happening but did bugger all about it.

The question was NOT were the US responsible for the attack. So your conclusion that 10/13 think the US did it is way out of line and only goes to foment the stupid conspiracy theories, for which there is not an ounce of hard evidence or credibility.

Maybe you need some new glasses?

[Piratis]

No airplane crashed on WTC7 and still it fall in a very "nice" planned way. Have you seen any other building falling like that because of a fire?

[miltiades]

Piratis , with due respect your reverberating what the Hellenes have for years been doing. Americanico daxtilo.
Its embarrassing to even consider that this treacherous murderous act was anything other than the work of those who owned up to it.

[MR-from-NG]

I agree with Miltiades. The Towers fell as a result of a terrorist attack. I cant understand conspiracy theorists. This is like the Lady Diana scenario. Lady Diana died in a road accident and the Towers fell due to the attack.

[growuptcs]

miltiades, I had a close friend that I went away with a couple of times with others in my early twenties living in the US. His name was Joe Rena and he perished because he was an honest hard worker who worked for Canton-Fitzgerald. He was on the 105th floor and couldn't escape because of the elevator situation. He had no choice but to leave his wife 6 months pregnant with their first child. I visit his family every 9/11 to pay my respects. Thats neither here nor there, but I just wanted militiades to know that out of all the people that perished not one of them was a Jew. Do your research and see what I'm talking about. Coincidence? I dont know but a short time after that, Enron went bankrupt. Thats equivalent to micro-soft going bankrupt. Just something more to think about to answer this thread.

[bg_turk]

The towers were built like a cage. Steel girdles on the outside, from the ground, all the way to the top, with each "horizontal beam floors" attached to the vertical cage structure. Once some of the vertical cage structures were destroyed due to the impact, followed by intense heat from the fire, with all the wight from the above floors, it was a matter of time, that the "Gravity" was going to take over, and push the above floors to the weakened floors below. From that point on, "Gravity" was in charge, pushing the above floors down on the next, and the next, and the next, and the next with ever increasing speed, energy and force. Just like tearing the telephone book, one page at a time. That's why the tower that collapsed 1st, had more weight above the impact point, than the tower that collapsed 2nd.

If your theory is correct, you would expect the upper floors to remain intact during the collapse, as they were undamaged. But if you watch the video they all "pulverize". How do you explain that?

Besides assymetric damage does not cause a symmetric collapse. Despite being assymetrically damages by the plain, the buildings collapsed symmetrically straight down the path of greatest resistance. One would expect it to tilt and tip over, and not fell in this supsicious way.

Even more suspicious is the fact that all three buildings collapsed at the free rate of fall.

Building seven was never damaged by the plane, just had minor damage from the debris, and it collapsed in the same oredrly fashion. And yet WTC5 and 6 which were severely damaged by the debri and were far closer to the trade centers almost beyond recognition, were still standing.

If you are serious about this stuff, have a look at this paper:
http://www.journalof911studies.com/W7Kuttler.pdf
It calculates the minimum collapse time by taking into consideration the inertia of all the floors below. It assumes that all the floors are hanging in the "air" and are progressively hit by the collapse wave which the official pancake theory is basically all about. It obtains that the absolute minimum time for the collapse is around 8.3 s (ignoring all the resistance by the intact floors from under the collapse wave). And yet WTC7 fell in just 6.5 s. What apart from demolition can explain that?

And then you have all this molten steal as documented by NASA satelites standing there for weeks after the collapse, all the eyewitness accounts of explosions. How do you explain those?

I can go on and on, but you'd be better off watching this lecture by Prof. Jones at Berkley:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 7463126290

Here is how WTC7 collapsed:

[bg_turk]

:P What exactly are all you conspiracy theorists smoking. Can I have some The only conspiracy was that a madman and his religious zealots carried out the attack and claimed credit for it in a video. Is it too difficult to understand that fanatical Islamists want to destroy the world as we know it. Maybe you all need a drink. Do you really think that the U.S. administration would kill close to 3000 people and keep it a secret. They fuc..d up Iraq, Lebanon, Somalia, Afghanistan but they have the brains and talent to pull this off. Get freaking real people.

What exactly are you smoking? The true conspiracy theorist is the government selling the retarded Americans the idea that 9/11 was a conspiracy of some Arab peasants from the deserts in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia, who armed with card box cutters succeed in kidnapping 4 air planes, crashed them into buildings in one of the best protected air spaces on earth and decapitated the Military concrete reinforced headquarters of the United States, which among other things are protected by an automatic missile system.

Like a dog directed to attack, you have been deceived into believing Bin Laden was the culprit. Do you even realize that there is no hard evidence whatsoever apart from some fake video incriminating Bin Laden in 9/11, as FBI itself admitted?

The FBI wants Bin Laden for crimes unrelated to 9/11:

CAUTION

Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm


Cheney on March 29, 2006:

So we've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden [sic] was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases ... 329-2.html

Osama has denied being involved in Sept 11th attack:

In a statement issued to the Arabic satellite channel Al Jazeera, based in Qatar, bin Laden said, "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it.

"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons," bin Laden's statement said.

"I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders' rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations," bin Laden said.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/i ... en.denial/

The 9/11 catastrophe was arguably one of the worst catastrophes since Pearl Harbor, and no one would disagree that it deserves a thorough investigation. The collapse of the twin towers represented the most mysterious engineering failures in history with profound implications for the safety of high rising buildings. And yet no independent investigation was funded. The only investigation was that by FEMA (Federal Emergency Agency ) with a budget of a meager $600,000 (compare with the $355 million spend on studying the disintegration of the Columbia Shuttle, or the $100 million for the Monica Lewinsky scandal).

No cover-up?

Only obedient servile sheep that never question their government would buy the nonsense that they are selling you. The government account of 9/11 is a joke, the most incredible conspiracy theory of them all.