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CYPRUS CONFLICT SOLUTION

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

TWO STATES OR ONE?

Poll ended at Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:50 pm

TWO
5
25%
ONE
15
75%
 
Total votes : 20

Postby pitsilos » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:04 am

vp i don't really give a continental what you wanna call your self, but do not insist on what i call my self.

quite frankly and i say this with the all my respects,

and it its true that turkey is up to bullying tactics again with threats, i would like to know your views on the matter, coz you make big a deal when you are threaten by individuals but the cat gets your tongue everytime when your side comes out with it

now why is that?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:12 am

pitsilos
vp i don't really give a continental what you wanna call your self, but do not insist on what i call my self.

quite frankly and i say this with the all my respects, its not any of your fucking business as to what i call my self


I agree, less foul language would be appreciated.



and it its true that turkey is up to bullying tactics again with threats, i would like to know your views on the matter, coz you make big a deal when you are threaten by individuals but the cat gets your tongue everytime when your side comes out with it

now why is that?


I have stated on other threads that I think we are making a mistake but am interested to see if this is just a lot of posturingi so we will see how think unfold.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:49 am

shahmaran wrote:
Piratis wrote:I will say sorry for the 1% of blame that we have, when you say sorry for the 99% of blame that you have. In fact, even that 1% of our blame wouldn't be there if your fathers just stayed in Mongolia instead of invading and stealing the lands of others. Then again thats the only thing those barbarians knew how to do, and as I see the Turks didn't get any more civilized since then.


My god Piratis you really are one of a kind arent you, so what the Greek empire spread its shit by handing out flowers? stop being so racist man seriously, and i never understood why Greek people always insult the poor Mongolians when they want to insult us, what ever have they done to you! you know there are plenty of "original Turks" who form a part of China, so you going to insult the Chinese history as well? stop being so bitter because we owned your sorry asses for hundreds of years, we were obviously doing something better :lol: do you actually know anything that is not infected and totally distorted by your racist views of the world? God it must truly suck to be you!


So in 1974 Turkey was expanding their empire and thats OK for this era you think?? You have not progressed to the level to understand things like international law yet?

As far as the Chinese goes, please do not confuse that great civilization that gave to the world so much, with barbarians that the only thing they know is to butcher and steal what others created.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:56 am

zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:I will say sorry for the 1% of blame that we have, when you say sorry for the 99% of blame that you have. In fact, even that 1% of our blame wouldn't be there if your fathers just stayed in Mongolia instead of invading and stealing the lands of others. Then again thats the only thing those barbarians knew how to do, and as I see the Turks didn't get any more civilized since then.



Your so-called 1-% is the pulling of the trigger. The bullet flies out of the gun and you try to distance your self from what havoc it reeks after that. Bullshit! There is not a court in the land that would swallow that one except for the useless UN and the expansionist EU. Even they are now blushing at their decision and your 1-% is having the two 00's put back in their rightful place as 100%. Prisons are full of people like you that say they did not do it when their fingerprints are all over the gun.


I am sure prisons in Turkey are full with people like me.They even have a "law" that they use to jail somebody for insulting their "Turkishness". What a joke they are!

However in the civilized world, away from the Turkish "justice", I am a law obeying Cypriot and EU citizen. The criminal is you who insists on the Human rights violations of 100s of thousands of people, and the occupation of a sovereign and independent country. The sad thing is that you can't even understand how wrong and criminal is what you support. I am not surprised however, since the Turks in general are stuck in the middle age practices of land grabs and ethnic cleansings, since thats the only thing they are good in.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:22 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:As for the innocent girls who did nothing at all relating to ethnically cleanse 180,000 Gcs, kill 6000 in one month vanish from the face of earth another 1500, grab the homes and lands of other people... and they are asking us to forget it, well, it's about time you stop playing it virgins.


Ho and we were all at Butlins playing tiddly winks come on man the losses occurred on both sides you have to see this. If you mess with a massive army you take the ferocity of it. You play with a bomb and the explosion cannot be controlled to the desired level.


Oh we played with a bomb. And what did you play with, matches? :P
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:24 pm

zan wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
wrote: GCs have all now become Cypriots, is this a new trend where was your Cypriotism in 1960......onwards? Don't you think its a to little to late to turn back the tide?


I admit you are more consistent in staying TURKS.
Would you prefer us to revert to Greek?



And what exactly would you have to change.


You for one? :wink:
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Postby fanourıo » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:24 pm

wake up! tea time! and you are still looking behind? look forward! 4fox-sake
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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:34 pm

I would say those who feel that we can ignore the ties of the the Cypriots to their old lands and their old villages are being foolish. Leaving aside the important matter of the basic right to enjoy one's property as one feels fit without interference, the ties to the land and old villages are a major contributor to the Cypriot identity.

Many members live outside the old country, many were born outside and yet those emotional ties are still strong perhaps pulling from continents away and over the span of thirty odd years.
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:37 pm

Piratis wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Piratis wrote:I will say sorry for the 1% of blame that we have, when you say sorry for the 99% of blame that you have. In fact, even that 1% of our blame wouldn't be there if your fathers just stayed in Mongolia instead of invading and stealing the lands of others. Then again thats the only thing those barbarians knew how to do, and as I see the Turks didn't get any more civilized since then.


My god Piratis you really are one of a kind arent you, so what the Greek empire spread its shit by handing out flowers? stop being so racist man seriously, and i never understood why Greek people always insult the poor Mongolians when they want to insult us, what ever have they done to you! you know there are plenty of "original Turks" who form a part of China, so you going to insult the Chinese history as well? stop being so bitter because we owned your sorry asses for hundreds of years, we were obviously doing something better :lol: do you actually know anything that is not infected and totally distorted by your racist views of the world? God it must truly suck to be you!


So in 1974 Turkey was expanding their empire and thats OK for this era you think?? You have not progressed to the level to understand things like international law yet?

As far as the Chinese goes, please do not confuse that great civilization that gave to the world so much, with barbarians that the only thing they know is to butcher and steal what others created.


Turkey is not an EMPIRE but its beyond the point, the US is doing it, and so is that GREAT Chinese Civilisation STILL doing it, and many others...I prsonally dont remember GCs following "international law" as recently as 74, do you? i dont think so...

I was not confusing civilisations, i was just commenting at your incredibly moronic comparison of Turks being barbarians since they seem to be descending from Mongolians (which i suppose its meant to be insulting, i mean who the hell wants to be a Mongolian right!??) who have similar ancestors as the Chinese, it was meant to be a rhetorical example just to underline your ignorant and racist views of the world. Obviously your history knowledge is INCREDIBLY insufficent and bigoted, in order to be able to make such remarks, because you know ABSOLUTELY nothing about the history of the Turks, and you are the same guy who so seriously insits that he does not NEED to KNOW, nor READ about Turkish history while insisting that they are barbarians, which again prooves my initial point. Infact what would ever qualify such person to make such remarks about the past of an entire nation? is this the kind of crap your mother use to send you to sleep with every night? Because your firm grasp on these ridicolously inconsistent fairy tales, is nothing but childish!

Pull your head out of the sand and grow up!
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:38 pm

bill cobbett wrote:I would say those who feel that we can ignore the ties of the the Cypriots to their old lands and their old villages are being foolish. Leaving aside the important matter of the basic right to enjoy one's property as one feels fit without interference, the ties to the land and old villages are a major contributor to the Cypriot identity.

Many members live outside the old country, many were born outside and yet those emotional ties are still strong perhaps pulling from continents away and over the span of thirty odd years.


But the average TC does not have a problem handing back land the problem is how do we rule the country? and what safeguards will be put in place?
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