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[bg_turk]

yeah, the BBC "cock-up" is really a big smoking gun for the 9-11 truth movement and clearly affirms that someone who had foreknowledge of the collapse of WTC7 must have tipped the british coproration.

Other interesting pieces of evidence for complicity are:

1. Norman Mineta's testimony in front of the commission, where he claims that Cheney intentionally failed to prevent the crash on the pentagon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

2.William Rodriguez, the last man who left the towers, claims he heard explosions:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BEYRtIYq8KQ

3. FBI foreknowledge (as Kristin Breitweiser concluded from confronting the FBI)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rwVbNjJ_tyo

And there there is the famous "pull it" quote by Silverstein,etc,etc... and this is only a small fraction of the evidence towards complicity and foreknowledge.

The truth movement is growing:

Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials:
http://patriotsquestion911.com/

Professors
http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html

Survivors, firefighters, victims families, NYPDs:
http://patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html

[bg_turk]

SO what do you think would happen to mutiple sheets of thick glass as they are compressed?

You think they might explode outwards?

You think little pockets of fuel and air could ignite causing mini explosions?

So many things could cause these explosions and sounds, and historically, eye witnesses can be decieved by their own senses as to what is happening..

The compression you talk about would compress air simultaneously in all directions, and would shatter the glass in all directions. What we see on the videos are localized puffs of air, which can only be associated with locally placed explosives.

The puffs of air are well documented on videos, so you cannot dismiss that easily by claiming that eyewitnesses can be easily deceived.

[Eliko]

bg_turk, nice one, so glad you have revived this controversial topic, if miltiades is anywhere about you have certainly sown the seeds to flush him out.

What a shame it is that I must be off to Africa for a week or so shortly, I may not be witness to the success of your mission if miltiades does not appear soon.

"MILTIADES !!!!!!" WHERE ARE YOU ?.

[bg_turk]

RUBBISH! you watch too much on line CRAP, T_C....first off, in the morning of 9-11, most communications in lower manhattan were cut off. secondly, this broadcast does not prove a timeline. just the editors notes flashed on a screen about the timing. this footage could have been from sept. 15th for all it proves.

too much conspiracy theories. too much CRAP.

Do not be stupid. The footage could not have been taken on the 15th because on that footage wtc7 was still standing behind her.

I wonder what she thought when that building behind her collapsed in one giant rush of 47-story steel mass merely minutes after she reported that it had already collapsed?

Maybe not knowing which building was which, did she not ask someone, "What building was that?"? And when she found out the it was in fact WTC7, the very 47-Story Structure which she already said had fallen, how did that make her feel?

[miltiades]

Miltiades is watching the pigs taking flight lessons. !!

[Eliko]

When this particular topic was raised, I was not available to make any contribution to the discussion due to my absence from this forum, however, now that I have had a chance to view the various documentaries covering the events of 9/11 I feel bound to make the following observations.

There are several such documentaries freely available to all who would wish to view them.

Even if we disregard this particular one, surely it must be quite apparent that the collapse of the buildings were events scientifically proven to be the result of explosive detonation, NOT combustible activity.

A cursory glance through a children's encyclopedia will reveal the absurdity of suggesting that such devastation could occur due to the reasons attributed to such.

There is far too much evidence to support the conspiracy theories for any lay person to dismiss it.

I consider it an affront to my intelligence when I am expected to accept the official explanations, (please note that I emphasize Explanations), for they are of the same ilk throughout All the peculiar events of that historic day.

Look at the collapses a few times, you will also be able to see just how ridiculous it is to conclude that such steel- framed structures could collapse in such a manner, what ARE you arguing about?.

[Eliko]

miltiades, my old friend !, here we all were worrying about your whereabouts and, right on cue, you leap into the forum in precisely the same manner as always.

So glad you are well, I am off again for a week or so and am greatly relieved to know that you are still among us.

[miltiades]

When this particular topic was raised, I was not available to make any contribution to the discussion due to my absence from this forum, however, now that I have had a chance to view the various documentaries covering the events of 9/11 I feel bound to make the following observations.

There are several such documentaries freely available to all who would wish to view them.

Even if we disregard this particular one, surely it must be quite apparent that the collapse of the buildings were events scientifically proven to be the result of explosive detonation, NOT combustible activity.

A cursory glance through a children's encyclopedia will reveal the absurdity of suggesting that such devastation could occur due to the reasons attributed to such.

There is far too much evidence to support the conspiracy theories for any lay person to dismiss it.

I consider it an affront to my intelligence when I am expected to accept the official explanations, (please note that I emphasize Explanations), for they are of the same ilk throughout All the peculiar events of that historic day.

Look at the collapses a few times, you will also be able to see just how ridiculous it is to conclude that such steel- framed structures could collapse in such a manner, what ARE you arguing about?.

Did you say an affront to your ...intelligence !
There are also rumours that a couple of jumbo jets crashed on the towers I wonder if these are true !
However ""A cursory glance through a children's encyclopedia will reveal the absurdity of suggesting that such devastation could occur due to the reasons attributed to such. """ Two jumbos loaded with thousands of gallons of aviation fuel ?

What do you do for a living did you say ??

[Eliko]

miltiades, I posted my comments a mere 10 minutes ago, you have replied immediately which suggests that you have not taken the time to cogitate the contents.

As usual, you include an insult to the contributor, seemingly oblivious to the fact that it negates whatever point you are trying to make.

I did invite the reader to THINK about what was written by using the light bulbs, I must confess that I am of the opinion that the lights have gone out as far as you are concerned.

[miltiades]

My dear Eliko , I have never permitted my self to be led by the blind , neither have I ever disassociated my self from something or someone with which / whom I have never been associated with. I would add that certain well known smells do take a lot less than 10 minutes to be evaluated , in fact seconds at times.
As far as derogatory comments directed towards absurd statements , it is a perfectly reasonable retort when dismissing unfounded absurdities , such as Father Xmas fairy tales etc etc , .
The world would suddenly come to a stop if intelligence was equally available to us all dont you think so , just look around you and you will share my views on the subject.
Can I ask , what exactly do you do for a living ?