Threat of coup d'etat in Turkey
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| miltiades |
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| shahmaran wrote: |
Bollocks miltiades my man, quit quoting irrelevant sayings that were used centuries ago to make your lame point, its as bullshit as "good Turks is a dead Turk" and you know it, let me also remind you that Erdogan wasn't exactly elected in a very democratic fashion either, if the army is going to stop that piece of shit and his likes from fucking over this country and selling it to the Arabs then they are more then welcome to intervene with any "democratic" process they want, you as the most vicious attacker of the Muslim worlds who insistingly defends the US and disgustingly tries to justify the killings of poor uneducated Muslims in 100s of thousands while calling them animals, is now sitting there babbling on about the army trying to stop these religious morons from ruling the country? Where the hell is your consistency miltiades, come on man you are like 60 or something...
Did you not see the millions of people who protested against this shit in Ankara? They will be doing it again in Istanbul this weekend which i will personally attend to, i really REALLY hope that Turkey will not be represented by this prick and his covered wife and that no one with a covered head will EVER be able to set foot into Cankaya!
The Turkish Military IS the defender of modern Turkey and Kemalism, and I'm VERY glad that they are! |
Once a punk always a punk. Get your arse away from Turkey and start caring for your own country you traitor. You react angrily every time some one takes a jibe at your motherland . With a motherland so close to Cyprus I wonder what the fuck you are doing in a modern 21 st century Cyprus.
Have you seen any of my posts on Greece, you should take a look kid you may learn something. Can I also ask you what is Turkey mostly credited with in the world that we live in to make you such a sucker for all that's Turkish. Let me tell you , one T/C and one G/C are worth a million bloody Anatolian and a million Greek vlahous too. |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:03 pm |
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| miltiades |
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| shahmaran wrote: |
| I say fuck the EU and fuck the religious backward fools, Turkey doesnt need neither! |
And who the fuck are you punk to denigrate the worlds most successful union of nations ? You are full of excrement and it bloody well shows . You are uncouth , ignorant and above all a disgrace to the T/C race. |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:20 pm |
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Well F**K YOU miltiades, plain and simple! I cant think of anything more appropriate to say about your garbage!
Get some consistency you old git! |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:05 am |
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| miltiades wrote: |
| shahmaran wrote: |
| I say fuck the EU and fuck the religious backward fools, Turkey doesnt need neither! |
And who the fuck are you punk to denigrate the worlds most successful union of nations ? You are full of excrement and it bloody well shows . You are uncouth , ignorant and above all a disgrace to the T/C race. |
I do not agree with u Miltiades, Turkish Cypriots are directly or indirectly being affected by what ever happens in Turkey..
Shahmaran is only trying to say that Kemalists are less dangerous than Islamists, and he is totally right..
People who never lived in Turkey just cant know and realize the difference... |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:20 am |
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shahmaran
I say fuck the EU and fuck the religious backward fools, Turkey doesnt need neither!
to answer your question turkey is in bed with the european union right now as part of nato and so is greece not only that they are the mouth peace of americ. whatever america says to them they say yes and thats it |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:24 am |
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| karma wrote: |
| miltiades wrote: |
| shahmaran wrote: |
| I say fuck the EU and fuck the religious backward fools, Turkey doesnt need neither! |
And who the fuck are you punk to denigrate the worlds most successful union of nations ? You are full of excrement and it bloody well shows . You are uncouth , ignorant and above all a disgrace to the T/C race. |
I do not agree with u Miltiades, Turkish Cypriots are directly or indirectly being affected by what ever happens in Turkey..
Shahmaran is only trying to say that Kemalists are less dangerous than Islamists, and he is totally right..
People who never lived in Turkey just cant know and realize the difference... |
Indeed, thank you Karma!
But these people would fail to see this simply because it is Turkey that we are talking about here |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:39 am |
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Shahmaran
What the hell are you talking about? Miltiades is about the most consistent person on this forum. He is consistently talking crap and backing it up with more crap. He condemns the saying " One Turk is worth a thousand others as he put it then goes on to say Let me tell you , one T/C and one G/C are worth a million bloody Anatolian and a million Greek vlahous too. I thought that it was the whole saying that was the problem but it seems that it was only the who and the numbers. As you quite rightly said, he condemns the backward Muslims when it suits him but now that they are attacking the right people, in his eyes, (Turkey) then the shout goes up for the Muslims. And you were going to buy a set of knives off this man
.What were you thinking.
The army saved Turkey from the corrupt gangsters in the 70s and now it can do the same against this corrupt religious group. Until they can separate religion from politics then there is no democracy that the article is calling for. No country should be run by religion as no country should be run by the army but I am gald that the army are there until full democracy is reached. This is a transitional period that Turkey will have to go, through with a lot of pain but I am confident that they will go through it. Look at what Greece went through. Dont panic. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:12 am |
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| "Gokalp gave "the nation" an important mystical component. In his work, "he transferred to the nation the divine qualities he had found in society, replacing the belief in God with the belief in the nation: and so nationalism became a religion."[43] The national is deified, thus expanding Durkheim's idea that "society can do as it pleases." So, if a nation perceives iteself in danger, it feels no moral responsibility in its response to that danger. The Unionist "scientific approach" gained a "sacred" character through Gokalp's theories." |
[43.] Heyd, Uriel. Foundations of Turkish Nationalism: The Life andTeachings of Ziya Gökalp., p. 57.
cited in: Akcam, Taner; trans. Paul Bessemer. A Shameful Act: The Armenian Genocide and the Question of Turkish Responsibility Henry Holt and Company (New York, 2006) p. 88-89.
How dare the more Islamist Turks worship more Islam than they do the Turkish devlet? By all means crush them. There can only be one belief in Turkey: the religious nationalism and its religious statehood. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:32 am |
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Kyahwoleeee!  Bu Taner Akcami bulup kesseler cok iyi olur  ...internette gavga ettigim her insan bu pezonun yazilarini gullanir 
Allah belasini versin... |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:35 am |
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http://www.yevrobatsi.org/st/item.php?r=10&id=2801
A Shameful Campaign
by Taner Akçam
... "At the invitation of the McGill University Faculty of Law and Concordia University, I flew from Minneapolis to Montreal on Friday, February 16, to lecture on A Shameful Act. As the Northwest Airlines jet touched down at Trudeau International Airport about 11:00 a.m., I assumed I had plenty of time to get to campus for the 5:00 p.m. event. Nearly four hours later, I was still at the airport, detained without any explanation."
... "About 3:30 p.m. the officer returned with a special one-week visa. Upon my insistence that I had a right to know exactly why I had been detained, he showed me a sheet of paper with my photograph on top and a short block of text, in English, below.
I recognized the page at once. The photo was a still from the 2005 documentary Armenian Genocide: 90 Years Later, a co-production of the University of Minnesota Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies and Twin Cities Public Television. A series of outtakes from the film, originally posted on the CHGS Web site, could be found on the popular Internet video site, YouTube, and elsewhere in cyberspace. The still photo and the text beneath it comprised my biography in the English-language edition of Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia which anyone in the world can modify at any time. For the last year—most recently on Christmas Eve, 2006—my Wikipedia biography had been persistently vandalized by anonymous “contributors” intent on labeling me as a terrorist. The same allegations had been repeatedly scrawled, like gangland graffiti, as “customer reviews” of A Shameful Act and my other books at Amazon.com." ...
"The well meaning American customs official could hardly have known the extent of the problem. Wikipedia and Amazon are but two examples. Allegations against me, posted mainly by the Assembly of American Turkish Associations (ATAA), Turkish Forum, and Tall Armenian Tale, have been copy-pasted and recycled throughout innumerable Web sites and e-groups ever since I arrived in America. By now, for example, my name in close proximity to the English word “terrorist” turns up in well over ten thousand Web pages."
"The first salvo in this campaign came in response to the English translation of my essay, “The Genocide of the Armenians and the Silence of the Turks.” In a sensational March 19, 2001, commentary from the ATAA Turkish Times (“From Terrorism to Armenian Propagandist: The Taner Akçam Story”), I was introduced to Turkish-Americans as a mastermind of terrorist violence, including the assassinations of American and NATO military personnel. Posted at the ATAA Web site in April 2001 and circulated via Turkish Forum in December 2001 and June 2003—my protests notwithstanding—“The Taner Akçam Story” ended up by March 2004 at Tall Armenian Tale next to a photo of a PKK member, which was captioned as “a younger Taner Akçam, from PKK.org.” Three years later, the photo has been updated, but Artun’s commentary remains, a frequently cited resource for copy-pasters." ...
So basically Turks do not just lie about Greeks. They also lie about their few dissidents that do not parrot their official state history.
I do not take advices from Turks whether they be Kemalist or Islamist or Turkish Cypriot. Just as I do not take advices from loser leftist Greek Cypriots. |
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