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Postby boulio » Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:46 pm

Enosists and "majority rule" oppressors

so were they fighting in 1955,1963 in 1967 in 1974 in the north?what were they weekend warriors?you know fight the enosists in 1955 then go south have a baby go back north?
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Postby insan » Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:51 pm

boulio wrote:Enosists and "majority rule" oppressors

so were they fighting in 1955,1963 in 1967 in 1974 in the north?what were they weekend warriors?you know fight the enosists in 1955 then go south have a baby go back north?



Sorry but I couldn't understand just a single word of what you are trying to say?
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Postby boulio » Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:57 pm

i just thought the tmt were operating from 1950's so im asking when were the fighting in the north the t/c and living in the south?
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Postby MicAtCyp » Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:14 am

I ve read all your message Turkcyp. The one with the "grab a snickers" joke in. It was cool re, why you thought it was not?
Just one question. Are you sure you are not an Akinci supporter? I mean what impressed me of this man is one phrase he was saying in the past: that to reach a solution both communities must first be able to put themselves in the position of the other community.

Turkcyp wrote: As I have said, I am not going to go and keep on "self-critizing" while you never do "self-critizing" and exploit my guilt. That, I can not do.
So either we do it together, or we keep on being in this cycle.


In my opinion everybody who is in this forum, everybody who participates to bicommunal events everybody who has friends in the other community has already done it to him/herself but does not want to say it.
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Insan wrote: but raping is alleged

Clerides legalising the abortions in 1974 was an alledged action?More than 3000 abortions of teenagers and young women in the Nicosia General hospital alone are alledged? I was old enough to know. The rapes were massive! I told you that many times and you keep insisting. What do you want, each of those girls and women to give you a testimony to beleive? None of those testimonies were ever given to ANYONE. Because they are enough to destroy the life of the girl or woman. And they were not raping only women. They were raping men as well. I personally have met a very old couple, both the old man and his old lady were raped... We had so many eye witnesses after 1974 telling us exactly what happened. Everywhere we were going we were hearing another similar story. Then in September the schools opened. I had refugees in my class who lived through everything.And they told us everything. Who you think you are to deny all these facts?

Insan wrote: Hahahaha. One more distortion of historical facts. They were crying with the hapiness of rejoining their loved ones waiting them in the North of the Island.


Should I laugh with you or should I cry? Again I told you I saw the convoys with my own eyes. They were crying from their sorrow.Full stop Others were hagging their GC neighbours crying and wishing quick coming back....

You don't seem to listen to anyones post Insan. You think everybody is lying....
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:47 am

Clerides legalising the abortions in 1974 was an alledged action?More than 3000 abortions of teenagers and young women in the Nicosia General hospital alone are alledged?



Weird. Neither UN nor ECHR or any other human rights organizations have recorded such a human tragedy; abortion of more than 3000 GC female in 1974. However it was well recorded by some leftist intellectuals how the responsible and criminal right wingers exerted hard to conceal the truths and how they distorted the facts in order to erase their guilt and create international impressions in favour of themselves. Otherwise they would all have been lynched by the majority of GCs(mostly left wingers). Nevertheless, I'll ask Mr Stavrinides, Markides and Drusouthis for more info about this alleged rapes and abortions.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:57 am

Insan,

You deny that the Turks acted barbarically in Cyprus. If you cannot accept this Insan then why should i accept what happened to the TC's? That is not to say that I don't accept that the TC's suffered, I do, but your denial of anything terrible happening to the GC's makes me feel sick. Everything that happened to the GC's is ALLEDGED and everything that befel the TC's is historical fact in your opinion.

You are full of s**t my friend. You accuse me in the past of being condescending and yet you have done the same to me in your reply to my post. I know the history, I know what happened and I don't need to you to tell me.
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:12 am

Insan,

You deny that the Turks acted barbarically in Cyprus. If you cannot accept this Insan then why should i accept what happened to the TC's? That is not to say that I don't accept that the TC's suffered, I do, but your denial of anything terrible happening to the GC's makes me feel sick. Everything that happened to the GC's is ALLEDGED and everything that befel the TC's is historical fact in your opinion.You are full of s**t my friend. You accuse me in the past of being condescending and yet you have done the same to me in your reply to my post. I know the history, I know what happened and I don't need to you to tell me.


I didn't deny the facts that are well documented by impartial reserchers, historians and international organizations. I acknowledged all of them. You still keep denying those facts. However I believe I have the right not to believe the allegations of GC and Greek criminals, that is obvious that they created such allegations in order to erase their guilt, create international impression in favour of themselves, stay in power and put all the blame on other side.


You are full of s**t my friend.


Thanks a lot! Brruuuu! Bruyo bre yerro, mavro yerimo.


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Postby -mikkie2- » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:24 am

However I believe I have the right not to believe the allegations of GC and Greek criminals, that is obvious that they created such allegations in order to erase their guilt, create international impression in favour of themselves, stay in power and put all the blame on other side.


Please enlighten me on this Insan. Do you deny that the Turks raped these women? Do you deny that? Are you saying that the European Comission of Human Rights reports are lies?

http://hr-action.org/chr/ECHR01.html

http://hr-action.org/chr/ECHR02.html

http://hr-action.org/chr/ECHR03.html

Is this propaganda Insan?
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Postby boulio » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:42 am

mikke whats wrong with you,the hellenic ruling elite is behind it all,one big conspiracy against turkey.
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:15 am

-mikkie2- wrote:
However I believe I have the right not to believe the allegations of GC and Greek criminals, that is obvious that they created such allegations in order to erase their guilt, create international impression in favour of themselves, stay in power and put all the blame on other side.


Please enlighten me on this Insan. Do you deny that the Turks raped these women? Do you deny that? Are you saying that the European Comission of Human Rights reports are lies?

http://hr-action.org/chr/ECHR01.html

http://hr-action.org/chr/ECHR02.html

http://hr-action.org/chr/ECHR03.html

Is this propaganda Insan?





1- Those pseudo human rights reports are impossible to be found anywhere; even on official Hellenic internet sources(Government web sites) other then Hellenic propaganda machine.

2- http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/porta ... on=request

All ECHR reports, resolutions, judgements regarding Cyprus v. Turkey can be found at the above official ECHR websites.


Keep up your dirty propaganda mikkie. Eventually, you'll shot yourself with your own gun.

I copied the so-called ECHR reports and sent them via e-mail to relevant ECHR departments for examination and investigations.
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