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[Bananiot]

Bananiot wrote:

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By the way, evolution is a fact, not a theory.

Phoenix replied

Sorry I assumed you were scientifically minded . . "facts" are merely the set of figures or evidence used to justify the higher principle, which we refer to as a "Theory". Evolution has EARNED the term "Theory" because it has not been falsified. It does not diminish Evolution to be labelled a Theory . . . it has raised it scientifically from being just a simple "fact".

I think you may be getting mixed up with the term "in theory".

Absolutely! I agree with you on this one but I thought I was talking to an average person without a scientific background. For the layman, fact is more concrete than theory and many creationists would argue that "evolution is just a theory".

In fact, most people list facts on top, as the most important, followed by laws, theories and hypotheses. Scientists rearrange the list as follows: Theories, Laws, Hypotheses, Facts.

I apologise for this.

[repulsewarrior]

LOL!!!

as living things we can tear at eat other as though we are a deadly bacteria feeding on a host. and like lambs and/or lions we can sit together when our bellies are full, or when there is a fire that threatens us both. but beyond biology, theories, facts and truth there is Humanity. this power to reason, an obligation to choose, and to embrace the changes we can make, our acts come from learning, as a challenge to fear.

neither, which is desired, or which is feasible, are sustainable in this case, neither is correct. and if the Truth is found, based on Universal thinking, that which is clear and easy to understand, we will have agreement, and the settlement of the Problem based on principal which is uncompromised, a representation of us as Human Beings, working for our own betterment by bettering the condition of Mankind, will have the power to change the world, a greater Cyprus, if you will.

[phoenix]

Bananiot wrote:

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By the way, evolution is a fact, not a theory.

Phoenix replied

Sorry I assumed you were scientifically minded . . "facts" are merely the set of figures or evidence used to justify the higher principle, which we refer to as a "Theory". Evolution has EARNED the term "Theory" because it has not been falsified. It does not diminish Evolution to be labelled a Theory . . . it has raised it scientifically from being just a simple "fact".

I think you may be getting mixed up with the term "in theory".

Absolutely! I agree with you on this one but I thought I was talking to an average person without a scientific background. For the layman, fact is more concrete than theory and many creationists would argue that "evolution is just a theory".

In fact, most people list facts on top, as the most important, followed by laws, theories and hypotheses. Scientists rearrange the list as follows: Theories, Laws, Hypotheses, Facts.

I apologise for this.

Good summation

Bananiot you don't have to apologise. I really enjoyed our brief exchange this morning . . . . You have been very patient with me and the many things I meddle in, that I know nothing about.

You provide excellent mental fodder.

[Get Real!]

Do you have a simple and workable way to achieve a Cypriot national consciousness? One that can stand up to the simplistic challenge like "if Greece and Turkey to to war which side will Cyprus be on?" to give an example among many.

Government sponsored awareness campaigns of Cypriot history, inheritance, and culture would go a long way.

[Get Real!]

oh Deniz you are not reading properly...we will become humanitarians

anyway time to hit the sack...gnight all

G'night then. You sounded fuzzled. Let uncle GR tuck you in bed.

Just call me "Unkie" for short...

[repulsewarrior]

Ah Boomerang,

There was no chance the Junta guys would have fought the Turks. It was a deal to split the island and unite each part with the respecive motherland. It was because we fough back that the Turks realised they could double cross the Greek side and get away with it, which they did.

The proof of all this? One, the fact that in Greece the Cyprus file was closed because of "national interest" ,

Two , the man who know most about this, dictator Ioannidis, has refused to talk, and is still in jail. He is reported as saying "the bastards betrayed me" when the second Attila started.

Three, statements by junior officers and troops who were told not to engage the invading Turks because "it is all worked out" . Only when the bombing of civilian areas started did they realise they were fucked and asked for permission to engage. Athens high command refused until Brigadier Georgitsis hung his phone out the window and they could hear the bombing that they relented.

If there had been a genuine union of Greece and Cyprus and a unified front no doubt about which way things would have gone. But if there had been a unified front there would have been no idiotic coup against the government to begin with.

One thing you got to admit, when Greeks fuck up they do it big time!

...a topic worth rereading.

[repulsewarrior]

Since you insist on drawing me into this again, I support no extremist group. What I am saying is that GR represents the GC equivalents of ATCA/right wing extremists. I dont see myself as promoting anything but a peaceful, pragmatic solution, something GR does not.

I support Law & Order by constantly reminding everyone of international law on Cyprus, while many others support an illegal break away group, illegal invasion/occupation from a foreign country, and myriads of other illegalities.

Contemplate this the next time you're trying to figure out who is the extremist Deniz...

I am contemplating GR. As long as you and your followers want TCs off the Island, my opnion does not change. Get it?

We want NON-CYPRIOTS off the island Deniz and I couldn't care less what their ethnic background is because what matters to us is how people BEHAVE and not where they and their family comes from.

Just because someone was born here and wastes his/her life acting against what is meant to be his/her country doesn't make him/her "Cypriot"... Get it?

Being "Cypriot", just as being "Turkish", or being "English", is about ACKNOWLEDGING, EMBRACING, and subsequently BELONGING to the respective ethnicity and certainly not what a piece of paper says you are.

...indeed, worth taking a glance at this topic.