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Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:52 am

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BC Numismatics wrote:Oranos64,TRUE Muslims are not evil people,which you are claiming.You should read this & learn; www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/ .

As for labelling the Islamic religion as a cult,that's where you are wrong.

The most bigoted cult is the one that has its headquarters in Rome,has a Nazi scumbag for the Pope of Rome,& has a propaganda website that spews out messages of hate here; www.vatican.va .

The Roman Catholic 'Church' still hates Protestants,especially Anglicans & Lutherans,& they still hate Jews & Muslims.

The Cult of Rome still supports terrorism,especially that committed by Sinn Fein/I.R.A. in both countries on the isle of Ireland,which,despite recent 'peace agreements',are still engaging in genocide & ethnic cleansing against the Protestant minority in the Republic of Ireland & the Protestant majority in Ulster ('Northern Ireland').

Aidan.


i am hopeful as always that there are people like you still exist in this world who have deep knowledge. Thanks

If you need a lunatic like Aiden to back you up you are in deeper trouble than you could ever realise… :roll:
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Postby tessintrnc » Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:35 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
QAMERSLAND wrote:
BC Numismatics wrote:Oranos64,TRUE Muslims are not evil people,which you are claiming.You should read this & learn; www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/ .

As for labelling the Islamic religion as a cult,that's where you are wrong.

The most bigoted cult is the one that has its headquarters in Rome,has a Nazi scumbag for the Pope of Rome,& has a propaganda website that spews out messages of hate here; www.vatican.va .

The Roman Catholic 'Church' still hates Protestants,especially Anglicans & Lutherans,& they still hate Jews & Muslims.

The Cult of Rome still supports terrorism,especially that committed by Sinn Fein/I.R.A. in both countries on the isle of Ireland,which,despite recent 'peace agreements',are still engaging in genocide & ethnic cleansing against the Protestant minority in the Republic of Ireland & the Protestant majority in Ulster ('Northern Ireland').

Aidan.


i am hopeful as always that there are people like you still exist in this world who have deep knowledge. Thanks

If you need a lunatic like Aiden to back you up you are in deeper trouble than you could ever realise… :roll:


True so true !!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Southerner » Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:17 pm

zan wrote:So my racist and bigoted friend....You should look to your own before condemning others. :roll: :roll: :roll:

There is one major flaw in your argument and that is I have never promoted Christianity as you keep infering, this post is not about Christianity it is about the evil plague that the world is suffering from at this moment in time; that plague is islam.
Nobody came onto this forum attempting to promote Christianity yet this religious nutter quamersland insists on coming onto this forum spreading his garbage of a 7th century paedophile, woman hater, puppet master, I have no respect for muhamed nor his sexist racist preachings, my wife can dress how she wishes, go where she wishes, do what she wishes and say what she wishes, the same applies to my daughter who has a unversity degree and PGCE.
Islam is a disgusting sexist religion, when was the last female muslin cleric ordained; if never why?
It would be an insult to my Wife and daughter to accept islam.
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Postby boomerang » Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:31 pm

Anger at Al Hilaly's 'uncovered meat' remarks

A senior Muslim cleric has drawn criticism for reportedly preaching that some women are attracting sexual assault by the way they dress and their actions.

Sheikh Taj el-din Al Hilaly is reported as saying that women who do not wear the hijab, or headdress, are like uncovered meat.


The quotes, taken from a sermon the cleric made in Sydney last month, are published in The Australian today.

The ABC has been unable to contact Sheikh Al Hilaly, but an associate Keysar Trad, says the mufti's comments have been taken out of context.

"He wasn't talking about rape in any way," Mr Trad said.

"He wasn't talking about standard norms of dress in Australia or any country, he wasn't talking about the hijab, he was talking about people who engage in extramarital sex.

But the Federal Sex Discrimination Commissioner and New South Wales Liberal Party candidate, Pru Goward, does not believe the Sheikh can backtrack over his comments.

She says he could be guilty of incitement to the crime of rape, and he should be deported.

"On that basis he can, if his visa arrangements are appropriate, be deported," Ms Goward said.

"I would strongly urge the Islamic leadership to ask him to go, we would all support that.

"There is a pattern of these statements, we are a tolerant people but incitement to the crime of rape is not acceptable."

'Flabbergasted'

A former member of the Federal Government's Muslim Advisory board, Iktimal Hage-Ali, says Sheikh Al Hilaly should be stripped of his position.

Ms Hage-Ali has heard a recording of a speech made by the Sheikh last month, in which he said women can be blamed for attracting sexual assault if they do not dress appropriately.

She says she is disgusted by the comments.

She quotes the Sheikh as saying "When it comes to adultery 90 per cent of the blame is on a woman.

"If a woman puts powder on her face and puts lipstick [on] and struts her stuff then she should be held at fault, if a man comes and attacks her and then that analogy about meat and cats.

She says she was "just flabbergasted".

The Australian Federal Police (AFP) Commissioner, Mick Keelty, says the furore over comments attributed to the Sheikh may damage relations with the Islamic community.

Commissioner Keelty says the Sheikh's comments could cause links with the Islamic community to be strained.

"What we're trying to do is work closely with the Islamic community - all of us - and understand them better and I guess this just, you know, doesn't help that cause," Commissioner Keelty said.

Political condemnation

The Treasurer Peter Costello has also condemned the reported comments by Sheikh Al Hilaly.

Speaking on Channel 7, Mr Costello said the Muslim community must condemn the comments and take action against the Sheikh.

"If you have a significant religious leader like this preaching to a flock in a situation where we've had gang rapes, in a way that seems to make it justifiable, or at least lighten the dehumanising and degrading extent of the offence, then people that listen to that kind of comment can get the wrong idea," Mr Costello said.

Federal Opposition Leader Kim Beazley says the remarks are offensive and the mufti should apologise for them.

"They are offensive and they should be retracted by him, they should be retracted immediately," Mr Beazley said.

"Those offensive statements should not be permitted to stand."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200610/s1773857.htm



The mind boggles...
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Postby Southerner » Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:59 pm

boomerang wrote:
Anger at Al Hilaly's 'uncovered meat' remarks

A senior Muslim cleric has drawn criticism for reportedly preaching that some women are attracting sexual assault by the way they dress and their actions.

Sheikh Taj el-din Al Hilaly is reported as saying that women who do not wear the hijab, or headdress, are like uncovered meat.


The quotes, taken from a sermon the cleric made in Sydney last month, are published in The Australian today.

The ABC has been unable to contact Sheikh Al Hilaly, but an associate Keysar Trad, says the mufti's comments have been taken out of context.

"He wasn't talking about rape in any way," Mr Trad said.

"He wasn't talking about standard norms of dress in Australia or any country, he wasn't talking about the hijab, he was talking about people who engage in extramarital sex.

But the Federal Sex Discrimination Commissioner and New South Wales Liberal Party candidate, Pru Goward, does not believe the Sheikh can backtrack over his comments.

She says he could be guilty of incitement to the crime of rape, and he should be deported.

"On that basis he can, if his visa arrangements are appropriate, be deported," Ms Goward said.

"I would strongly urge the Islamic leadership to ask him to go, we would all support that.

"There is a pattern of these statements, we are a tolerant people but incitement to the crime of rape is not acceptable."

'Flabbergasted'

A former member of the Federal Government's Muslim Advisory board, Iktimal Hage-Ali, says Sheikh Al Hilaly should be stripped of his position.

Ms Hage-Ali has heard a recording of a speech made by the Sheikh last month, in which he said women can be blamed for attracting sexual assault if they do not dress appropriately.

She says she is disgusted by the comments.

She quotes the Sheikh as saying "When it comes to adultery 90 per cent of the blame is on a woman.

"If a woman puts powder on her face and puts lipstick [on] and struts her stuff then she should be held at fault, if a man comes and attacks her and then that analogy about meat and cats.

She says she was "just flabbergasted".

The Australian Federal Police (AFP) Commissioner, Mick Keelty, says the furore over comments attributed to the Sheikh may damage relations with the Islamic community.

Commissioner Keelty says the Sheikh's comments could cause links with the Islamic community to be strained.

"What we're trying to do is work closely with the Islamic community - all of us - and understand them better and I guess this just, you know, doesn't help that cause," Commissioner Keelty said.

Political condemnation

The Treasurer Peter Costello has also condemned the reported comments by Sheikh Al Hilaly.

Speaking on Channel 7, Mr Costello said the Muslim community must condemn the comments and take action against the Sheikh.

"If you have a significant religious leader like this preaching to a flock in a situation where we've had gang rapes, in a way that seems to make it justifiable, or at least lighten the dehumanising and degrading extent of the offence, then people that listen to that kind of comment can get the wrong idea," Mr Costello said.

Federal Opposition Leader Kim Beazley says the remarks are offensive and the mufti should apologise for them.

"They are offensive and they should be retracted by him, they should be retracted immediately," Mr Beazley said.

"Those offensive statements should not be permitted to stand."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200610/s1773857.htm



The mind boggles...

It would appear that islam is a utopia for sex addicts everywhere, any form of ilicit sex and sexual activities with or without the consent of the female sex is allowed; the perpetrator (male) is then allowed to blame the victim (woman) who is then to be charged/blamed as the Perpetrator.

Some religion, some culture.
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Postby rawk » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:50 pm

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Ah well, the female thing doesn't come into it half the time. Does it Squamers?

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Postby Southerner » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:58 pm

rawk wrote:Image

Ah well, the female thing doesn't come into it half the time. Does it Squamers?

Rawk


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Postby zan » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:54 am

Are these the same people posting here that have been having a go at us for arguing the same pointless things about Cyprus on other threads........ :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Muslim Honour Killing

Postby Southerner » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:12 am

oranos64 wrote:http://www.terrorismawareness.org/videos/108/the-violent-oppression-of-women-in-islam/
TO WOMEN ....this a good example why i raged with viewpoint yesterday ...i will not and shall never stand by to hear nor watch another man chastise a woman
tolerance is not opton ....


Today there has been an inquest into the murder of a 17 year old muslim girl, this young girls was denied the fundamental rights of anyone by having the freedom of choice taken from her.
Her muslim parents tried to force her into an arranged marriage against her will, they stole all of her savings (£2000) and regularly beat her, this poor young girl sought help at her school etc; she even drank bleach to get out of the evil position that she was placed in, when she went missing it wasn't her muslim parents who reported her missing it was her school.
This is not an isolated incident it is a regular occurance amongst the muslim community and often ends in a muslim honour killing.
Sadly because of the closed ranks amongst the muslim community the police have not been able to secure a prosecution.
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Postby rajput49 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:28 am

The Bible in Leviticus 20:21 allows for parents to marry their children!

Song of Songs 8:1-3 "If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother's breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me. I would lead you and bring you to my mother's house-- she who has taught me. I would give you spiced wine to drink [i.e., her vagina's semen!], the nectar of my pomegranates. His left arm is under my head and his right arm embraces me."
Song of Solomon 8:10 "Dear brothers, I'm a walled-in virgin still, but my breasts are full— And when my lover sees me, he knows he'll soon be satisfied."
Song of Songs 1:2-4 "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth-- for your love is more delightful than wine. Pleasing is the fragrance of your perfumes; your name is like perfume poured out. No wonder the maidens love you! Take me away with you--let us hurry! Let the king bring me into his chambers. We rejoice and delight in you; we will praise your love (i.e., semen) more than wine. How right they are to adore you!" I don't think this would be appropriate for a kid under 18 to read. Also, I don't think it is appropriate to have such open sexuality in a divine book anyway.
and many many more..........

"Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: "This is from God," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (The Noble Quran, 2:79)"
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