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[Piratis]

I must be missing something... If you are from England you are English, if you are from Ireland you are Irish, if you are from Greece you are Greek, if you are from Cyprus you are Cypriot. I may be uneducated in this but it makes no sense to me why people from Cyprus are not just Cypriot. You are not Greek!!! You speak the language but that is meaningless.!

Because Cyprus is a Greek island. Being "independent" was not our choice but something forced on us by the British.

If Germans occupied London and then declared London as "independent" (so they will control it easier and keep bases in it) would that mean that Londoners are just Londoners and not English anymore?

As I said, historical facts, all countries have them!!! Cypriot'ness' is about feeling Cypriot, not feeling like you are an offshoot of Greece. Separate government, history, finance, exports, until recently currency.....NOT GREEK!!!

I don't mean to insult, I genuinely can't see the reason.

You don't mean to insult but you do. Do you realize that the only reason Cyprus is "independent" and not another Greek island like Crete, Rhodos and the 100s of others, is because Britain forced this on us?

Maybe you should go occupy Crete next and tell them that they are also "independent" and not Greeks so you can put bases there as well?

[miltiades]

I must be missing something... If you are from England you are English, if you are from Ireland you are Irish, if you are from Greece you are Greek, if you are from Cyprus you are Cypriot. I may be uneducated in this but it makes no sense to me why people from Cyprus are not just Cypriot. You are not Greek!!! You speak the language but that is meaningless.!

Because Cyprus is a Greek island. Being "independent" was not our choice but something forced on us by the British.

If Germans occupied London and then declared London as "independent" (so they will control it easier and keep bases in it) would that mean that Londoners are just Londoners and not English anymore?

Piratis , exactly when was Cyprus a Greek Island , tell us which century did Cyprus EVER belong to Greece. You may be a blue blooded Greek but many of us Cypriots are NOT .We are Cypriots first and foremost , just as my father and grandfather were KIPREI OXI KALAMARADES.What the f.k is the matter with OUT nationality , that of the Cypriot. Birk , Kikapu , and thousands of other Cypriots are just that CYPRIOTS.
My signature from now on will be this : I'M , I WAS , I SHALL ALWAYS BE A CYPRIOT !!

[Piratis]

Miltiades, Greece as a country was formed only recently after the revolution of 1821. Several territories and islands did not join the Greek state until much later. Rhodes for example joined in 1948.

So are you going to tell me that before 1821 there were no Greeks because they did not belong to a Greek state? Or that Rhodians became Greek just when Rhodes became part of the Greek state, even though this island, like Cyprus, has 1000s of years of Greek history?

[phoenix]

It's not just the British that have tried to take away the Hellenism out of Cypriots. That one is easy to identify and single out.

The more liberal Cypriots are the most dangerous because they want to make the TCs feel as much a part of Cyprus as the native Cypriots that the only way they see fit is to shout louder that they are no more Greek than the TCs.

This does not serve any useful purpose under the present circumstances when most TCs have betrayed Cyprus from the inside. It makes the liberal native Cypriots (GCs) complicit ....

[zan]

Miltiades, Greece as a country was formed only recently after the revolution of 1821. Several territories and islands did not join the Greek state until much later. Rhodes for example joined in 1948.

So are you going to tell me that before 1821 there were no Greeks because they did not belong to a Greek state? Or that Rhodians became Greek just when Rhodes became part of the Greek state, even though this island, like Cyprus, has 1000s of years of Greek history?

Ergo...It has NEVER been Greek...Thank you!!!!!!

[zan]

It's not just the British that have tried to take away the Hellenism out of Cypriots. That one is easy to identify and single out.

The more liberal Cypriots are the most dangerous because they want to make the TCs feel as much a part of Cyprus as the native Cypriots that the only way they see fit is to shout louder that they are no more Greek than the TCs.

This does not serve any useful purpose under the present circumstances when most TCs have betrayed Cyprus from the inside. It makes the liberal native Cypriots (GCs) complicit ....

Now you know why I said that we are protecting the North of Cyprus from ENOSIS Miltiades.........These are the Tpapolites that are running the "RoC".....Long live the Bananiots.....

[phoenix]

It's not just the British that have tried to take away the Hellenism out of Cypriots. That one is easy to identify and single out.

The more liberal Cypriots are the most dangerous because they want to make the TCs feel as much a part of Cyprus as the native Cypriots that the only way they see fit is to shout louder that they are no more Greek than the TCs.

This does not serve any useful purpose under the present circumstances when most TCs have betrayed Cyprus from the inside. It makes the liberal native Cypriots (GCs) complicit ....

Now you know why I said that we are protecting the North of Cyprus from ENOSIS Miltiades.........These are the Tpapolites that are running the "RoC".....Long live the Bananiots.....

Two faced Zan!

You were Turkish before Miltiades came back .... now you are "Cypriot" ...

[alexISS]

The culture and the way of life in Cyprus is undoubtedly Greek. There are of course many unique elements, like the Cypriot dialect, but they are clearly not enough to culturally separate Cyprus from Greece. In fact there are many Greek territories that have as many, if not more, unique characteristics. Cypriots living abroad may have lost contact with the greekness of Cyprus but, fortunately, the rest have not

[Piratis]

Miltiades, Greece as a country was formed only recently after the revolution of 1821. Several territories and islands did not join the Greek state until much later. Rhodes for example joined in 1948.

So are you going to tell me that before 1821 there were no Greeks because they did not belong to a Greek state? Or that Rhodians became Greek just when Rhodes became part of the Greek state, even though this island, like Cyprus, has 1000s of years of Greek history?

Ergo...It has NEVER been Greek...Thank you!!!!!!

It has been Greek for 3500 years. Or you are going to tell me that Athens, Sparta and all the other Greek territories and island needed where not Greek during all these 1000s of years and became Greek only when the became part of a Greek state.

Are you also going to tell me that there were no Turks until the establishment of the Turkish state in 1919? Then Turks dropped from the sky!

[phoenix]

Miltiades, Greece as a country was formed only recently after the revolution of 1821. Several territories and islands did not join the Greek state until much later. Rhodes for example joined in 1948.

So are you going to tell me that before 1821 there were no Greeks because they did not belong to a Greek state? Or that Rhodians became Greek just when Rhodes became part of the Greek state, even though this island, like Cyprus, has 1000s of years of Greek history?

Ergo...It has NEVER been Greek...Thank you!!!!!!

Greek /Hellenic what is the difference?

It's the same meaning in Greek (Hellenic) .... and that's what Cyprus has always been. It's only the English language that has bastardised / confused the meaning ....