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[denizaksulu]

A solution based on military action against Turkey is not only a joke but a dangerous joke as well.
The only powers that can make Turkey pack up and leave Cyprus are two. The USA and the T/Cs .
Don't even mention Russia , Britain or Greece , only the USA , Turkeys most powerful ally .
The USA will never declare war on a NATO nation .
The T/Cs , what is left of them , may just demand the withdrawal of the Turkish army if not wholly at least partly but only when a solution is in sight , or when " unification" by the back door is occurring. That will happen possibly some time in the next few years provided the "TRNC" remains un recognised , highly unlikely given the results of the recent elections.

Good morning Miltiades. Any good news yet?

I am sure if TCs voted for the withdrawal of the Turkish Army, the Turkish gov. might take heed. But somehow I dont see that they will withdraw completely. They might want to have a 'small' token presence on the island for 'face saving'. I know the GCs want a total removal, but would thay compromise on a 'major reduction' instead? It would be wise not to ask for the impossible. Ofcourse this would also depend on the outcome of any peace settlement towards unification.

Regards

[Oracle]

A solution based on military action against Turkey is not only a joke but a dangerous joke as well.
The only powers that can make Turkey pack up and leave Cyprus are two. The USA and the T/Cs .
Don't even mention Russia , Britain or Greece , only the USA , Turkeys most powerful ally .
The USA will never declare war on a NATO nation .
The T/Cs , what is left of them , may just demand the withdrawal of the Turkish army if not wholly at least partly but only when a solution is in sight , or when " unification" by the back door is occurring. That will happen possibly some time in the next few years provided the "TRNC" remains un recognised , highly unlikely given the results of the recent elections.

Good morning Miltiades. Any good news yet?

I am sure if TCs voted for the withdrawal of the Turkish Army, the Turkish gov. might take heed. But somehow I dont see that they will withdraw completely. They might want to have a 'small' token presence on the island for 'face saving'. I know the GCs want a total removal, but would thay compromise on a 'major reduction' instead? It would be wise not to ask for the impossible. Ofcourse this would also depend on the outcome of any peace settlement towards unification.

Regards

Stop dangling carrots to that sucker Miltiades ....

If the TCs were ever going to ask Turkey to leave Cyprus, so that they can rejoin their brothers in the south, why have they not done so after 3 decades?

Now, there are even less TCs than ever before on Cyprus (like you) ... so who is going to ask Turkey to leave?

The TCs have taken themselves away from the negotiating table.

It's up to the GCs to use the real power at their disposal to remove the Turks, and forget troubling the otherwise engaged cowardly TCs.

[miltiades]

A solution based on military action against Turkey is not only a joke but a dangerous joke as well.
The only powers that can make Turkey pack up and leave Cyprus are two. The USA and the T/Cs .
Don't even mention Russia , Britain or Greece , only the USA , Turkeys most powerful ally .
The USA will never declare war on a NATO nation .
The T/Cs , what is left of them , may just demand the withdrawal of the Turkish army if not wholly at least partly but only when a solution is in sight , or when " unification" by the back door is occurring. That will happen possibly some time in the next few years provided the "TRNC" remains un recognised , highly unlikely given the results of the recent elections.

Good morning Miltiades. Any good news yet?

I am sure if TCs voted for the withdrawal of the Turkish Army, the Turkish gov. might take heed. But somehow I dont see that they will withdraw completely. They might want to have a 'small' token presence on the island for 'face saving'. I know the GCs want a total removal, but would they compromise on a 'major reduction' instead? It would be wise not to ask for the impossible. Of course this would also depend on the outcome of any peace settlement towards unification.

Regards

Good morning Deniz , still waiting for the new arrival , I will be off to Cyprus in a matter of days.
As you say the Turkish government may listen to demands made by T/Cs but of course a solution must be on the table . If all Cypriots really want to be reunited then it will happen and Turkish troops will be withdrawn , if not all at least a large number. We all have to realise that we cant have everything , compromise and act reasonably and do not wish on others what you would not wish on yourself.The T/C mums and dads have exactly the same concerns for their children as the G/C parents , all want their children to live in a fear free environment where personal safety is sacred. It is for these children that us adults have to try a little harder to push for a solution. All these kids are exactly the same and they need to feel safe and secure in their homeland. I feel very strongly that more G/Cs and T/Cs should meet and make friends , that's when they will begin to judge each other by the person and not whether T/C or G/C .

[denizaksulu]

A solution based on military action against Turkey is not only a joke but a dangerous joke as well.
The only powers that can make Turkey pack up and leave Cyprus are two. The USA and the T/Cs .
Don't even mention Russia , Britain or Greece , only the USA , Turkeys most powerful ally .
The USA will never declare war on a NATO nation .
The T/Cs , what is left of them , may just demand the withdrawal of the Turkish army if not wholly at least partly but only when a solution is in sight , or when " unification" by the back door is occurring. That will happen possibly some time in the next few years provided the "TRNC" remains un recognised , highly unlikely given the results of the recent elections.

Good morning Miltiades. Any good news yet?

I am sure if TCs voted for the withdrawal of the Turkish Army, the Turkish gov. might take heed. But somehow I dont see that they will withdraw completely. They might want to have a 'small' token presence on the island for 'face saving'. I know the GCs want a total removal, but would thay compromise on a 'major reduction' instead? It would be wise not to ask for the impossible. Ofcourse this would also depend on the outcome of any peace settlement towards unification.

Regards

Stop dangling carrots to that sucker Miltiades ....

If the TCs were ever going to ask Turkey to leave Cyprus, so that they can rejoin their brothers in the south, why have they not done so after 3 decades?

Now, there are even less TCs than ever before on Cyprus (like you) ... so who is going to ask Turkey to leave?

The TCs have taken themselves away from the negotiating table.

It's up to the GCs to use the real power at their disposal to remove the Turks, and forget troubling the otherwise engaged cowardly TCs.

Shut up OrPh. I am trying to have a friendly discussion with a real Cypriot.

As to why now? Its obvious isnt it? Maybe you are so blind by your hatred that you need a guide dog.

How was your mothers day? and how is your mother?

[DT.]

mighty military strength here is not a bad idea if it serves a pupose which goes beyond national borders. There are enemies of us all which needs the battle hardy: they are hunger and disease to name two.

I am intrigued to hear, how mighty military strength can be used to fight the battles of hunger and disease.

Simple, you shoot the hungry and the sick...et voila! No more hunger or disease.

[Oracle]

mighty military strength here is not a bad idea if it serves a pupose which goes beyond national borders. There are enemies of us all which needs the battle hardy: they are hunger and disease to name two.

I am intrigued to hear, how mighty military strength can be used to fight the battles of hunger and disease.

Simple, you shoot the hungry and the sick...et voila! No more hunger or disease.

Spoken like a true banker!

I'll wait for RW's logic.

(.... for more laughs )

[cymart]

I think 'get real' has already had too much spring sunshine and it's still early March!

[denizaksulu]

A solution based on military action against Turkey is not only a joke but a dangerous joke as well.
The only powers that can make Turkey pack up and leave Cyprus are two. The USA and the T/Cs .
Don't even mention Russia , Britain or Greece , only the USA , Turkeys most powerful ally .
The USA will never declare war on a NATO nation .
The T/Cs , what is left of them , may just demand the withdrawal of the Turkish army if not wholly at least partly but only when a solution is in sight , or when " unification" by the back door is occurring. That will happen possibly some time in the next few years provided the "TRNC" remains un recognised , highly unlikely given the results of the recent elections.

Good morning Miltiades. Any good news yet?

I am sure if TCs voted for the withdrawal of the Turkish Army, the Turkish gov. might take heed. But somehow I dont see that they will withdraw completely. They might want to have a 'small' token presence on the island for 'face saving'. I know the GCs want a total removal, but would they compromise on a 'major reduction' instead? It would be wise not to ask for the impossible. Of course this would also depend on the outcome of any peace settlement towards unification.

Regards

Good morning Deniz , still waiting for the new arrival , I will be off to Cyprus in a matter of days.
As you say the Turkish government may listen to demands made by T/Cs but of course a solution must be on the table . If all Cypriots really want to be reunited then it will happen and Turkish troops will be withdrawn , if not all at least a large number. We all have to realise that we cant have everything , compromise and act reasonably and do not wish on others what you would not wish on yourself.The T/C mums and dads have exactly the same concerns for their children as the G/C parents , all want their children to live in a fear free environment where personal safety is sacred. It is for these children that us adults have to try a little harder to push for a solution. All these kids are exactly the same and they need to feel safe and secure in their homeland. I feel very strongly that more G/Cs and T/Cs should meet and make friends , that's when they will begin to judge each other by the person and not whether T/C or G/C .

Well said, Miltiades. Have a safe trip to Cyprus. I will keep on trying to make friends. Alas, whenever I see a niche into which I can sqeeze, OrPh just shuts it. The Last Frontier will come crumbling down soon.

[miltiades]

A solution based on military action against Turkey is not only a joke but a dangerous joke as well.
The only powers that can make Turkey pack up and leave Cyprus are two. The USA and the T/Cs .
Don't even mention Russia , Britain or Greece , only the USA , Turkeys most powerful ally .
The USA will never declare war on a NATO nation .
The T/Cs , what is left of them , may just demand the withdrawal of the Turkish army if not wholly at least partly but only when a solution is in sight , or when " unification" by the back door is occurring. That will happen possibly some time in the next few years provided the "TRNC" remains un recognised , highly unlikely given the results of the recent elections.

Good morning Miltiades. Any good news yet?

I am sure if TCs voted for the withdrawal of the Turkish Army, the Turkish gov. might take heed. But somehow I dont see that they will withdraw completely. They might want to have a 'small' token presence on the island for 'face saving'. I know the GCs want a total removal, but would thay compromise on a 'major reduction' instead? It would be wise not to ask for the impossible. Ofcourse this would also depend on the outcome of any peace settlement towards unification.

Regards

Stop dangling carrots to that sucker Miltiades ....

If the TCs were ever going to ask Turkey to leave Cyprus, so that they can rejoin their brothers in the south, why have they not done so after 3 decades?

Now, there are even less TCs than ever before on Cyprus (like you) ... so who is going to ask Turkey to leave?

The TCs have taken themselves away from the negotiating table.

It's up to the GCs to use the real power at their disposal to remove the Turks, and forget troubling the otherwise engaged cowardly TCs.

And what may I ask is that REAL power that the G/Cs have in order to remove the Turkish troops ? Oracle you do talk rubbish and you know it too.
There is no power on earth that will make Turkey remove one single soldier. The only power is the USA and the T/Cs , now since you , along with GR hate both fat chance of that happening. My contribution to the solution is to embrace all Cypriots as brothers and sisters , get rid of the foreign influences and concentrate on building bridges to bring our people together.The alternative doesn't bear thinking .
ps. Call me sucker once again and you may just , if your lucky , get a real taste of Miltiades anger !!!!

[Brittania]

A solution based on military action against Turkey is not only a joke but a dangerous joke as well.
The only powers that can make Turkey pack up and leave Cyprus are two. The USA and the T/Cs .
Don't even mention Russia , Britain or Greece , only the USA , Turkeys most powerful ally .
The USA will never declare war on a NATO nation .
The T/Cs , what is left of them , may just demand the withdrawal of the Turkish army if not wholly at least partly but only when a solution is in sight , or when " unification" by the back door is occurring. That will happen possibly some time in the next few years provided the "TRNC" remains un recognised , highly unlikely given the results of the recent elections.

Good morning Miltiades. Any good news yet?

I am sure if TCs voted for the withdrawal of the Turkish Army, the Turkish gov. might take heed. But somehow I dont see that they will withdraw completely. They might want to have a 'small' token presence on the island for 'face saving'. I know the GCs want a total removal, but would thay compromise on a 'major reduction' instead? It would be wise not to ask for the impossible. Ofcourse this would also depend on the outcome of any peace settlement towards unification.

Regards

Stop dangling carrots to that sucker Miltiades ....

If the TCs were ever going to ask Turkey to leave Cyprus, so that they can rejoin their brothers in the south, why have they not done so after 3 decades?

Now, there are even less TCs than ever before on Cyprus (like you) ... so who is going to ask Turkey to leave?

The TCs have taken themselves away from the negotiating table.

It's up to the GCs to use the real power at their disposal to remove the Turks, and forget troubling the otherwise engaged cowardly TCs.

And what may I ask is that REAL power that the G/Cs have in order to remove the Turkish troops ? Oracle you do talk rubbish and you know it too.
There is no power on earth that will make Turkey remove one single soldier. The only power is the USA and the T/Cs , now since you , along with GR hate both fat chance of that happening. My contribution to the solution is to embrace all Cypriots as brothers and sisters , get rid of the foreign influences and concentrate on building bridges to bring our people together.The alternative doesn't bear thinking .
ps. Call me sucker once again and you may just , if your lucky , get a real taste of Miltiades anger !!!!

A touch hypocritical aren't you Miltiades? Since the plan with the US won't work and they won't go to war with the Turks you've decided the next best thing is to be-friend them?

BTW this Miltiades anger you keep going on about is starting to sound very kinky....its a bit like you've named a sex toy the "Miltiades Anger".