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[Oracle]

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Why did you delete your post Murat? I had the chance to read it and it brought home a lot of truth in the underlying problem of why certain people will always be the cause of the continued status quo, only problem is they don't realize this fact.

I also agree with your statement that GCs in general as fine to socialize with as long as you do not raise the Cyprus issue as they change totally and are ready to attack you just like GR.

I too read Murataga's post; hence my post after his.

Now I have the singular "pleasure" of knowing which of the two of you is the most "invade and silence the natives" thinking type of Turk.

Only by his apparent regret leading to his applauded deletion does Murataga stand slightly below you VP in being amongst those we have to fear.

Not un-based fear such as you feign if the natives object to your presence ... but real fear, such as you present with your troops and your deranged killer mentality.

We have no choice but to remain vigilant from the majority of Turks like you and Murataga who want to lie to the world that they have become civilised and are safe to release amongst us ... where I have no doubt you will then continue your genocides and massacres of GCs, since you have re-tasted our blood and ethnically cleansed the long-standing real indigenous people of this country.

The only safe solution is total removal of all Turks from Cyprus .....

[Viewpoint]

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Why did you delete your post Murat? I had the chance to read it and it brought home a lot of truth in the underlying problem of why certain people will always be the cause of the continued status quo, only problem is they don't realize this fact.

I also agree with your statement that GCs in general as fine to socialize with as long as you do not raise the Cyprus issue as they change totally and are ready to attack you just like GR.

I too read Murataga's post; hence my post after his.

Now I have the singular "pleasure" of knowing which of the two of you is the most "invade and silence the natives" thinking type of Turk.

Only by his apparent regret leading to his applauded deletion does Murataga stand slightly below you VP in being amongst those we have to fear.

Not un-based fear such as you feign if the natives object to your presence ... but real fear, such as you present with your troops and your deranged killer mentality.

We have no choice but to remain vigilant from the majority of Turks like you and Murataga who want to lie to the world that they have become civilised and are safe to release amongst us ... where I have no doubt you will then continue your genocides and massacres of GCs, since you have re-tasted our blood and ethnically cleansed the long-standing real indigenous people of this country.

The only safe solution is total removal of all Turks from Cyprus .....

We cares what you think, do your worst.

[BirKibrisli]

Bir have you had a taste of real GCs attitude even you a very liberal TC is seen as a threat and a conman for putting forward and supporting TCs fears and concerns unlike another poster who claims he is a TCs but is clearly not.

VP...I refuse to believe that GR represents the majority of the GCs...
He is one misguided,deluded,bitter individual whose blinkered view of Cyprus history leads him to outrages comments against his fellow compatriots...Anybody who puts all the blame, in an internationally and strategically complex problem like ours,squarely on one side,does not deserve to be taken seriously...I for one will treat him as a joke from now on..I suggest you do the same...

Bir you obviously have a continuous headache from banging it up against a brick wall all the time, GR and co are the real GC majority here they can anonymously display their real anger and venom at the the TCs and you should be more cautious in wanting to to share the island as one country with these people because you desire to see us united will expose us to this mentality for which not only you will pay the price but the rest of the TCs will also suffer.

I like to believe that human beings are intelligent and sensible creatures capable of higher sentiments than what the likes of GR are exhibiting...I invite you and my other fellow Cypriots to join me in this belief...The wall you mentioned above seems to be everywhere I turn these days...I am taking the precaution of wearing a helmet...

[Kikapu]

Can anyone paraphrase what Murataga said, so that we know what you guys are talking about.

Thanks.

[Viewpoint]

Bir have you had a taste of real GCs attitude even you a very liberal TC is seen as a threat and a conman for putting forward and supporting TCs fears and concerns unlike another poster who claims he is a TCs but is clearly not.

VP...I refuse to believe that GR represents the majority of the GCs...
He is one misguided,deluded,bitter individual whose blinkered view of Cyprus history leads him to outrages comments against his fellow compatriots...Anybody who puts all the blame, in an internationally and strategically complex problem like ours,squarely on one side,does not deserve to be taken seriously...I for one will treat him as a joke from now on..I suggest you do the same...

Bir you obviously have a continuous headache from banging it up against a brick wall all the time, GR and co are the real GC majority here they can anonymously display their real anger and venom at the the TCs and you should be more cautious in wanting to to share the island as one country with these people because you desire to see us united will expose us to this mentality for which not only you will pay the price but the rest of the TCs will also suffer.

I like to believe that human beings are intelligent and sensible creatures capable of higher sentiments than what the likes of GR are exhibiting...I invite you and my other fellow Cypriots to join me in this belief...The wall you mentioned above seems to be everywhere I turn these days...I am taking the precaution of wearing a helmet...

Can you say this of the happenings in Darfur? Bir you are to trusting and this causes blindness and danger to those around you who believe your Utopian mentality. GCs are revealing their true nature and what they really believe about how TCs are seen in a solution, this must cause you concern and mistrust of the real intention of the GC "majority".

[Oracle]

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Why did you delete your post Murat? I had the chance to read it and it brought home a lot of truth in the underlying problem of why certain people will always be the cause of the continued status quo, only problem is they don't realize this fact.

I also agree with your statement that GCs in general as fine to socialize with as long as you do not raise the Cyprus issue as they change totally and are ready to attack you just like GR.

I too read Murataga's post; hence my post after his.

Now I have the singular "pleasure" of knowing which of the two of you is the most "invade and silence the natives" thinking type of Turk.

Only by his apparent regret leading to his applauded deletion does Murataga stand slightly below you VP in being amongst those we have to fear.

Not un-based fear such as you feign if the natives object to your presence ... but real fear, such as you present with your troops and your deranged killer mentality.

We have no choice but to remain vigilant from the majority of Turks like you and Murataga who want to lie to the world that they have become civilised and are safe to release amongst us ... where I have no doubt you will then continue your genocides and massacres of GCs, since you have re-tasted our blood and ethnically cleansed the long-standing real indigenous people of this country.

The only safe solution is total removal of all Turks from Cyprus .....

We cares what you think, do your worst.

Whether you care what I think or not is insignificant. The ones that matter, the UN and EU, care what I think.

And what I think, is what the ones who do not care what you think, think. Because they are the people from whom you beg recognition and lifting of embargoes ... they are the ones who do not care what you think Viewpoint as they turn down your illegal, unfair requests.

Your pleas and propaganda will continue to be ignored, until you change your thinking.

[Get Real!]

Bir, contemplate this:

I will NOT allow you or anyone else in here to wash the Turkish Cypriot community’s hands clean while it remains knee deep in crime, and I’ll be right here each and every time ready to expose their deceiving double standards and immoral ways, ALWAYS with CREDIBLE EVIDENCE to blow your socks off and any one else who joins in your regular fairytales of the “Poor little Turkish Cypriots”.

In the meantime, feel free to remain the silent observer, oblivious to the realities on the ground, while you propagate your pitiful and baseless drivel elsewhere making a complete fool of yourself ALL you want, so good luck holding up your brotherly “Cypriot” image in GR’s next phase of threads because the bullshit artist’s days are over…

[BirKibrisli]

Bir, contemplate this:

I will NOT allow you or anyone else in here to wash the Turkish Cypriot community’s hands clean while it remains knee deep in crime, and I’ll be right here each and every time ready to expose their deceiving double standards and immoral ways, ALWAYS with CREDIBLE EVIDENCE to blow your socks off and any one else who joins in your regular fairytales of the “Poor little Turkish Cypriots”.

In the meantime, feel free to remain the silent observer, oblivious to the realities on the ground, while you propagate your pitiful and baseless drivel elsewhere making a complete fool of yourself ALL you want, so good luck holding up your brotherly “Cypriot” image in GR’s next phase of threads because the bullshit artist’s days are over…

Take my advice,GR,stop behaving like a one-man, self-destructive, bigoted clown...Until you acknowledge the role of the Americans,the British,The Soviets,The Greeks,the EOKA,the push for Enosis and the role of the Orthodox Church in the catastrophe we find ourselves,you will remain a morally bankrupt and sadly misguided individual,justifying the fears of the average TC of not wanting to live with you under any circumstances...

You cannot touch my credibility even in your dreams...I have mentioned and criticised many times the role of Turkey,the Turkish deep state,The TMT and Denktash and Co...I have often pointed out the illegality of the trnc,the moral and social decay facing those living in the North,from gambling,prostitution,drugs etc...I have often cried out about the injustices enforced on the GC refugees,the land-grab by the local and imported opportunists and warlords...I have declared the settlers as illegal,as a despicable attempt to rob the TCs of their political and economic power,and a tool to enforce the illegal partition of Cyprus...

When you show for the TCs one tenth of the empathy and compassion I have shown towards my GC brothers and sisters,you might earn the right to criticise my posts the way you do..."The bullshit artist's" days are indeed over...So why make it hard on yourself??? Give up your twisted and racist attacks on the TCs now and keep what little credibility you might have on this forum...

[Viewpoint]

Bir you are fighting a losing battle with GR he is the voice of the GC people and those silent thousands who may not say anything out loud but do agree with GR ideology 101%. You have to see the dangers and where utopian brotherly love will lead us into the arms of a people who cannot comprehend your communities equality or even have th courtesy to acknowledge our concerns.

[Kikapu]

Bir you are fighting a losing battle with GR he is the voice of the GC people and those silent thousands who may not say anything out loud but do agree with GR ideology 101%. You have to see the dangers and where utopian brotherly love will lead us into the arms of a people who cannot comprehend your communities equality or even have th courtesy to acknowledge our concerns.

VP,

Nothing happens in a vacuum. Yours and GR's views are hardly different in the main scope of things. He has taken extreme views on certain things as you have done on others. But I have warned you many times, that time does not stand still nor does it's surroundings and sooner or later, the shit is going to hit the fan, and your views of keeping the division long enough to gain recognition or where in about 100 years or so, people are going to say "what Cyprus problems" is just one of those extreme views. If 1571 has not been forgotten, what makes you think 1974 will.?

There are many of us here on the forum, TC's and GC's who would like nothing better than a just and fair settlement and not the type where one is triumphant and the other seeking revenge as a result. Your views has always been to be victorious in any settlement, regardless of the cost. I have also warned you, that your neighbour knows where you live and what has been taken from him. It is these action that will continue to ferment hate and violence. What Bir feels and talks about are for the good of all Cypriots, therefore he is not wasting his time. I only wish you can at some point follow his lead.