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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby miltiades » Tue May 27, 2008 1:20 pm

Get Real! wrote:Bir, contemplate this:

I will NOT allow you or anyone else in here to wash the Turkish Cypriot community’s hands clean while it remains knee deep in crime, and I’ll be right here each and every time ready to expose their deceiving double standards and immoral ways, ALWAYS with CREDIBLE EVIDENCE to blow your socks off and any one else who joins in your regular fairytales of the “Poor little Turkish Cypriots”.

In the meantime, feel free to remain the silent observer, oblivious to the realities on the ground, while you propagate your pitiful and baseless drivel elsewhere making a complete fool of yourself ALL you want, so good luck holding up your brotherly “Cypriot” image in GR’s next phase of threads because the bullshit artist’s days are over…

I wonder if Christophias is using the same language as you !!
You do think rather highly of your self don't you .
Bir is much more a Cypriot than you will ever be .You keep on about that GR " treatment " has anyone told you that it doesn't work since it is full of crap.
Bir is a man of reason and a true Cypriot , your full of air mate !!
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue May 27, 2008 3:04 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Bir you are fighting a losing battle with GR he is the voice of the GC people and those silent thousands who may not say anything out loud but do agree with GR ideology 101%. You have to see the dangers and where utopian brotherly love will lead us into the arms of a people who cannot comprehend your communities equality or even have th courtesy to acknowledge our concerns.


VP,

Nothing happens in a vacuum. Yours and GR's views are hardly different in the main scope of things. He has taken extreme views on certain things as you have done on others. But I have warned you many times, that time does not stand still nor does it's surroundings and sooner or later, the shit is going to hit the fan, and your views of keeping the division long enough to gain recognition or where in about 100 years or so, people are going to say "what Cyprus problems" is just one of those extreme views. If 1571 has not been forgotten, what makes you think 1974 will.?

There are many of us here on the forum, TC's and GC's who would like nothing better than a just and fair settlement and not the type where one is triumphant and the other seeking revenge as a result. Your views has always been to be victorious in any settlement, regardless of the cost. I have also warned you, that your neighbour knows where you live and what has been taken from him. It is these action that will continue to ferment hate and violence. What Bir feels and talks about are for the good of all Cypriots, therefore he is not wasting his time. I only wish you can at some point follow his lead.


Who are you to warn anyone? you persistently put forward the GC arguments 100% without wanting to understand that TCs also want a fair solution for all but taking into account concerns of both sides which cannot be pushed to one side as these concerns are redlines and without remedy will automatically guarantee the failure of any future plans, as was the case in the GC rejection of the AP.

Do you argue against GR? when he is on the war path? NO in fact you make excuses and again blindly support GCs.

Your exaggerated analysis of my demands for a solution do not in any way shape or form depict what I see as a solution and only goes to reveal your own short comings in understand why TCs demand the type of solution they do. In life nothing is black and white, yet you annoyingly persist with promoting the I know all and what I say say is gospel to a degree of insanity that you can demand all you wish the bottom line is that unless we can honestly address each others concerns we will never find a solution, just dismissing them will only serve to harden our views just as in your case I would not negotiate the use of a restaurant with you let alone a country, but on the opposite end of the scale I would happily surrender my future to Bananiot who has more vision and understanding than all your text GCs put together. Can you see the difference? or will you still blindly continuing with pursue totally GC views 101%
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Postby EPSILON » Tue May 27, 2008 3:48 pm

Muzzy70 wrote:Once again a thread descends into farce ! Again we have G/C's going on about 'majority' poulation(s) etc, etc. Wake up to the fact that Cyprus is for all Cypriots!

A correction Iceman. The Annan Plan which was on the table at Copenhagen was far less favourable to the T/C community than the one which was put to a referendum. The G/C's were always a shoe in for EU membership.

Piratis & Alexiss: Try and be rational fellas. Any failure concerning the upcoming talks WILL result in a T/C referendum for that community to decide it's own fate. There has been no solution to the Cyprus 'problem' for so long now because there was never the will for compromise on the part of both communities. Hopefully this will change but the biggest obstacle to a solution is the clear G/C refusal to accept the T/C's as political equals and a total unwillingness to share power. That, dear friends, is why the Annan Plan was rejected by the Greek Cypriot community. You either accept us or you don't. If you don't then unfortunately the division WILL be permanent.


Political equals!!!! 1 T/C vote = 4 G/C vote?
On same equality system 20 million Kurds = 60 million Turks in respect of central government in Ankara!!!go for it
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Postby Get Real! » Tue May 27, 2008 3:53 pm

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Bir, contemplate this:

I will NOT allow you or anyone else in here to wash the Turkish Cypriot community’s hands clean while it remains knee deep in crime, and I’ll be right here each and every time ready to expose their deceiving double standards and immoral ways, ALWAYS with CREDIBLE EVIDENCE to blow your socks off and any one else who joins in your regular fairytales of the “Poor little Turkish Cypriots”.

In the meantime, feel free to remain the silent observer, oblivious to the realities on the ground, while you propagate your pitiful and baseless drivel elsewhere making a complete fool of yourself ALL you want, so good luck holding up your brotherly “Cypriot” image in GR’s next phase of threads because the bullshit artist’s days are over…

I wonder if Christophias is using the same language as you !!
You do think rather highly of your self don't you .
Bir is much more a Cypriot than you will ever be .You keep on about that GR " treatment " has anyone told you that it doesn't work since it is full of crap.
Bir is a man of reason and a true Cypriot , your full of air mate !!

For someone who hasn’t done his national service, doesn’t pay taxes to the Republic, was not even in Cyprus in July 1974, has not had any of his property stolen by Turkey, is not a refugee, has hardly had an education, and has never contributed anything worthwhile to this forum, you sure got a nerve dictating what constitutes a "Cypriot"!

Now bugger off you silly old clown.
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Postby EPSILON » Tue May 27, 2008 4:02 pm

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Bir, contemplate this:

I will NOT allow you or anyone else in here to wash the Turkish Cypriot community’s hands clean while it remains knee deep in crime, and I’ll be right here each and every time ready to expose their deceiving double standards and immoral ways, ALWAYS with CREDIBLE EVIDENCE to blow your socks off and any one else who joins in your regular fairytales of the “Poor little Turkish Cypriots”.

In the meantime, feel free to remain the silent observer, oblivious to the realities on the ground, while you propagate your pitiful and baseless drivel elsewhere making a complete fool of yourself ALL you want, so good luck holding up your brotherly “Cypriot” image in GR’s next phase of threads because the bullshit artist’s days are over…

I wonder if Christophias is using the same language as you !!
You do think rather highly of your self don't you .
Bir is much more a Cypriot than you will ever be .You keep on about that GR " treatment " has anyone told you that it doesn't work since it is full of crap.
Bir is a man of reason and a true Cypriot , your full of air mate !!

For someone who hasn’t done his national service, doesn’t pay taxes to the Republic, was not even in Cyprus in July 1974, has not had any of his property stolen by Turkey, is not a refugee, has hardly had an education, and has never contributed anything worthwhile to this forum, you sure got a nerve dictating what constitutes a "Cypriot"!

Now bugger off you silly old clown.


Fully agree, and i repeat your words for the certain NEO CYPRIOT and his British mindwashers
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue May 27, 2008 10:29 pm

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Bir, contemplate this:

I will NOT allow you or anyone else in here to wash the Turkish Cypriot community’s hands clean while it remains knee deep in crime, and I’ll be right here each and every time ready to expose their deceiving double standards and immoral ways, ALWAYS with CREDIBLE EVIDENCE to blow your socks off and any one else who joins in your regular fairytales of the “Poor little Turkish Cypriots”.

In the meantime, feel free to remain the silent observer, oblivious to the realities on the ground, while you propagate your pitiful and baseless drivel elsewhere making a complete fool of yourself ALL you want, so good luck holding up your brotherly “Cypriot” image in GR’s next phase of threads because the bullshit artist’s days are over…

I wonder if Christophias is using the same language as you !!
You do think rather highly of your self don't you .
Bir is much more a Cypriot than you will ever be .You keep on about that GR " treatment " has anyone told you that it doesn't work since it is full of crap.
Bir is a man of reason and a true Cypriot , your full of air mate !!

For someone who hasn’t done his national service, doesn’t pay taxes to the Republic, was not even in Cyprus in July 1974, has not had any of his property stolen by Turkey, is not a refugee, has hardly had an education, and has never contributed anything worthwhile to this forum, you sure got a nerve dictating what constitutes a "Cypriot"!

Now bugger off you silly old clown.


So now we know what constitutes a Cypriot...According to GR you have to have been in the CNG,be working and earning money in Cyprus,had to have been in Cyprus in July,1974 and be a landed gentry with a university education living in the Northern part of Cyprus at the time... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh,and you have to hate passionately Turks,TCs and anyone who wants a peaceful solution to Cyprob... Hands up those who can tell who the Real clown is... :wink:
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Postby bilako22 » Tue May 27, 2008 11:02 pm

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Bir, contemplate this:

I will NOT allow you or anyone else in here to wash the Turkish Cypriot community’s hands clean while it remains knee deep in crime, and I’ll be right here each and every time ready to expose their deceiving double standards and immoral ways, ALWAYS with CREDIBLE EVIDENCE to blow your socks off and any one else who joins in your regular fairytales of the “Poor little Turkish Cypriots”.

In the meantime, feel free to remain the silent observer, oblivious to the realities on the ground, while you propagate your pitiful and baseless drivel elsewhere making a complete fool of yourself ALL you want, so good luck holding up your brotherly “Cypriot” image in GR’s next phase of threads because the bullshit artist’s days are over…

I wonder if Christophias is using the same language as you !!
You do think rather highly of your self don't you .
Bir is much more a Cypriot than you will ever be .You keep on about that GR " treatment " has anyone told you that it doesn't work since it is full of crap.
Bir is a man of reason and a true Cypriot , your full of air mate !!

For someone who hasn’t done his national service, doesn’t pay taxes to the Republic, was not even in Cyprus in July 1974, has not had any of his property stolen by Turkey, is not a refugee, has hardly had an education, and has never contributed anything worthwhile to this forum, you sure got a nerve dictating what constitutes a "Cypriot"!

Now bugger off you silly old clown.


What is a "Cypriot" GR? Keep fighting mate , do not let the buggers get you down.
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Postby unitedwestand » Tue May 27, 2008 11:22 pm

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Bir, contemplate this:

I will NOT allow you or anyone else in here to wash the Turkish Cypriot community’s hands clean while it remains knee deep in crime, and I’ll be right here each and every time ready to expose their deceiving double standards and immoral ways, ALWAYS with CREDIBLE EVIDENCE to blow your socks off and any one else who joins in your regular fairytales of the “Poor little Turkish Cypriots”.

In the meantime, feel free to remain the silent observer, oblivious to the realities on the ground, while you propagate your pitiful and baseless drivel elsewhere making a complete fool of yourself ALL you want, so good luck holding up your brotherly “Cypriot” image in GR’s next phase of threads because the bullshit artist’s days are over…

I wonder if Christophias is using the same language as you !!
You do think rather highly of your self don't you .
Bir is much more a Cypriot than you will ever be .You keep on about that GR " treatment " has anyone told you that it doesn't work since it is full of crap.
Bir is a man of reason and a true Cypriot , your full of air mate !!

For someone who hasn’t done his national service, doesn’t pay taxes to the Republic, was not even in Cyprus in July 1974, has not had any of his property stolen by Turkey, is not a refugee, has hardly had an education, and has never contributed anything worthwhile to this forum, you sure got a nerve dictating what constitutes a "Cypriot"!

Now bugger off you silly old clown.


I have seen some serious changes in GR over the last month or so. He has let his guard down and revealed his true identity.

I used to think he was patriotic but tolerant to his compatriots. In truth he is a Turk/TC hating dangerous individual. Not only does he hate us, he also hates those GCs that has anything good to say about us.

I would not feel comfortable or safe in his domain.
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Postby Oracle » Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm

unitedwestand wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Bir, contemplate this:

I will NOT allow you or anyone else in here to wash the Turkish Cypriot community’s hands clean while it remains knee deep in crime, and I’ll be right here each and every time ready to expose their deceiving double standards and immoral ways, ALWAYS with CREDIBLE EVIDENCE to blow your socks off and any one else who joins in your regular fairytales of the “Poor little Turkish Cypriots”.

In the meantime, feel free to remain the silent observer, oblivious to the realities on the ground, while you propagate your pitiful and baseless drivel elsewhere making a complete fool of yourself ALL you want, so good luck holding up your brotherly “Cypriot” image in GR’s next phase of threads because the bullshit artist’s days are over…

I wonder if Christophias is using the same language as you !!
You do think rather highly of your self don't you .
Bir is much more a Cypriot than you will ever be .You keep on about that GR " treatment " has anyone told you that it doesn't work since it is full of crap.
Bir is a man of reason and a true Cypriot , your full of air mate !!

For someone who hasn’t done his national service, doesn’t pay taxes to the Republic, was not even in Cyprus in July 1974, has not had any of his property stolen by Turkey, is not a refugee, has hardly had an education, and has never contributed anything worthwhile to this forum, you sure got a nerve dictating what constitutes a "Cypriot"!

Now bugger off you silly old clown.


I have seen some serious changes in GR over the last month or so. He has let his guard down and revealed his true identity.

I used to think he was patriotic but tolerant to his compatriots. In truth he is a Turk/TC hating dangerous individual. Not only does he hate us, he also hates those GCs that has anything good to say about us.

I would not feel comfortable or safe in his domain.


His domain is a whole unified Cyprus so if you don't feel safe there, best depart! :P
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Postby Get Real! » Tue May 27, 2008 11:51 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:I wonder if Christophias is using the same language as you !!
You do think rather highly of your self don't you .
Bir is much more a Cypriot than you will ever be .You keep on about that GR " treatment " has anyone told you that it doesn't work since it is full of crap.
Bir is a man of reason and a true Cypriot , your full of air mate !!

For someone who hasn’t done his national service, doesn’t pay taxes to the Republic, was not even in Cyprus in July 1974, has not had any of his property stolen by Turkey, is not a refugee, has hardly had an education, and has never contributed anything worthwhile to this forum, you sure got a nerve dictating what constitutes a "Cypriot"!

Now bugger off you silly old clown.


So now we know what constitutes a Cypriot...According to GR you have to have been in the CNG,be working and earning money in Cyprus,had to have been in Cyprus in July,1974 and be a landed gentry with a university education living in the Northern part of Cyprus at the time... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh,and you have to hate passionately Turks,TCs and anyone who wants a peaceful solution to Cyprob... Hands up those who can tell who the Real clown is... :wink:

The fool that has really started opening up... bit by bit the mask is shredding…
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